We won't win with Wood

[rocket]

wood's fine.

[kente777]

wood's fine.

 

Pretty confident statement given the fact that he's blown 3 of 7 saves.

[cubweiser03]

I can live with his peripherals. His ERA and blown save % sucks because when it happens it happens at once.

Over more time things should even out and he wont be blowing 2-3 run games. At least thats what im counting on.

[jersey cubs fan]

I agree that i'm not really at all worried about wood.

 

That said, dempster blew this many saves last year. In the ENTIRE SEASON. And we all talked about what a crappy closer he was. Definitely a double standard.

 

Not everybody shares that opinion.

 

Dempster didn't pitch particularly well last year, but he was fine in the closer role. Wood has pitched well this year, and will be fine in the closer role as well.

[rocket]

wood's fine.

 

Pretty confident statement given the fact that he's blown 3 of 7 saves.

 

he's struck out 13 while only walking 3. he has a sub 1.00 whip. he's only allowed 1 homer. i think he'll be fine.

[abuck1220]

nobody's saying wood didn't suck yesterday. but the two other saves he's blown have been one run leads that he blew by making one bad pitch (as opposed to walking four guys or giving up a bunch of hit/hrs). it happens.

 

secondly, marmol can't pitch three innings every day. even the most serious wood-hater has to admit he's the cubs second best reliever. someone has to pitch those innings whether it's the 7th, 8th or 9th, and wood's going to have to pitch some of them, like it or not.

[MADD_DOG_31]

they are going to trade Pie anyway, so why not trade him in a package for the best closer in the league....Joe Nathan can be had

[Sammy Sofa]

If the Cubs actually target a reliever in a trade using players like Pie, Cuban buying this team couldn't possibly come any faster.

[imb]

holy crap

[Guest]

Hey BudHouse, where were you in April?

[imb]

took him a month to come up with this sweet alliteration

[jersey cubs fan]

If the Cubs actually target a reliever in a trade using players like Pie, Cuban buying this team couldn't possibly come any faster.

 

I'm not sure why anybody would think Cuban would stand in the way of a prospects for relievers trade. He seems to me the type of owner that would insist on filling that "need".

[Outshined_One]

I've been wondering when we'd see this guy again.

[Athletics36]

they are going to trade Pie anyway, so why not trade him in a package for the best closer in the league....Joe Nathan can be had

 

 

"Pie has no trade value at this point", they should've traded him at the beginning of the season when teams were lining up.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

To repeat what others have said, Wood is fine. Even after yesterday, his WHIP sits at 0.929, he has a stellar 4.33 K/BB ratio(a still fine 2.17 including HBP), he has a great 0.64 HR/9. He's pitching fine. And for anyone worried that despite the peripherals he's still costing us wins, yesterday was the first blown save of his that we eventually lost. Wood is not the problem, or even close really. The real concern for the pitching rotation is Lilly, Marquis, and Hill and all the baserunners they're giving up.

[rawaction]

To repeat what others have said, Wood is fine. Even after yesterday, his WHIP sits at 0.929, he has a stellar 4.33 K/BB ratio(a still fine 2.17 including HBP), he has a great 0.64 HR/9. He's pitching fine. And for anyone worried that despite the peripherals he's still costing us wins, yesterday was the first blown save of his that we eventually lost. Wood is not the problem, or even close really. The real concern for the pitching rotation is Lilly, Marquis, and Hill and all the baserunners they're giving up.

 

What's his numbers if you take out balls that OFs should have caught had they taken better routes to the ball?

[Sammy Sofa]

If the Cubs actually target a reliever in a trade using players like Pie, Cuban buying this team couldn't possibly come any faster.

 

I'm not sure why anybody would think Cuban would stand in the way of a prospects for relievers trade. He seems to me the type of owner that would insist on filling that "need".

 

I would hope that the powers that be would see the difference in trading one level of prospects for relievers and trading our few top prospects for relivers.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

To repeat what others have said, Wood is fine. Even after yesterday, his WHIP sits at 0.929, he has a stellar 4.33 K/BB ratio(a still fine 2.17 including HBP), he has a great 0.64 HR/9. He's pitching fine. And for anyone worried that despite the peripherals he's still costing us wins, yesterday was the first blown save of his that we eventually lost. Wood is not the problem, or even close really. The real concern for the pitching rotation is Lilly, Marquis, and Hill and all the baserunners they're giving up.

 

What's his numbers if you take out balls that OFs should have caught had they taken better routes to the ball?

 

Better.

[soapy]

The real concern for the pitching rotation is Lilly, Marquis, and Hill and all the baserunners they're giving up.

 

this, please. why are we freaking out about Wood and Soriano? this is the biggest issue.

[CoolHandLuke]

To address the thread title:

 

2007 Cleveland Indians: 96-66

 

closer: Joe Borowski, of the 5+ era.

 

 

Closer is not, or at least should not be, a position.

 

The only problem i see with the current bullpen usage is that Lou won't use Marmol in the 9th, when the 9th actually is the most important inning.

[jersey cubs fan]

To address the thread title:

 

2007 Cleveland Indians: 96-66

 

closer: Joe Borowski, of the 5+ era.

 

 

Closer is not, or at least should not be, a position.

 

The only problem i see with the current bullpen usage is that Lou won't use Marmol in the 9th, when the 9th actually is the most important inning.

 

You were doing so well until that nonsensical last sentence.

[Sammy Sofa]

when the 9th actually is the most important inning.

 

Guh?

[soapy]

when the 9th actually is the most important inning.

 

Guh?

i think he's saying that when a situation arises where the 9th is the "most important" inning (say the heart of the order is coming up and it's a one run game or something) then it makes more sense to use Marmol, if he's available, instead of automatically using Wood because he is your "closer".

[Tracer Bullet]

To address the thread title:

 

2007 Cleveland Indians: 96-66

 

closer: Joe Borowski, of the 5+ era.

 

 

Closer is not, or at least should not be, a position.

 

The only problem i see with the current bullpen usage is that Lou won't use Marmol in the 9th, when the 9th actually is the most important inning.

 

You were doing so well until that nonsensical last sentence.

 

I think by "when the 9th actually is the most important inning," he's saying that in those games in which the 9th really is most important (1-run leads, guys get on base in a close game, heart of the order up), Lou isn't going to his "best" reliever - Marmol. Lou is sticking with his "closer" in those situations, and CHL is suggesting Lou should use Marmol in the highest-leverage situations, whether it be the 7th, 8th, or a save situation in the 9th that's harder than your routine 3-run lead, no one on, bottom of the order up, 9th.

 

If I'm completely misread his post, than I share your opinion, jersey.

[SouthSideRyan]

they are going to trade Pie anyway, so why not trade him in a package for the best closer in the league....Joe Nathan can be had

 

 

"Pie has no trade value at this point", they should've traded him at the beginning of the season when teams were lining up.

 

If "Pie has no trade value at this point" then every other GM is an idiot too.