What would it take to get Spilborghs?

[Backtobanks]

Ryan Spilborghs looks like the perfect fit for what Hendry wants: right-handed, plays all 3 OF positions, hits with power.

 

Against lefties: .338(BA) .395(OBP) .510(SLUG) .905(OBS)

 

He is their 4th OF, but I don't know if he would be available. How about Murton + Marshall for Spilborghs?

[Post Count Padder]

No thanks, not at that price. And his career line away from Coors looks like:

 

.274/.324/.417/.741

 

Whereas at Coors, his career OPS is .899.

[Backtobanks]

No thanks, not at that price. And his career line away from Coors looks like:

 

.274/.324/.417/.741

 

Whereas at Coors, his career OPS is .899.

 

Well, the question was "What would it take to get Spilborghs?", so what would be a good price? Those numbers still aren't bad for what we're looking for (RH- 3 OF positions) plus he's still cheap and not a real threat to take Pie's job.

[RedFlash]

Without starting a new thread, but what about Todd Linden of the A's?

 

While it don't matter too much, but this spring he is hitting:

.577/.633/.885

 

He is a guy capable of playing all three OF position, and wouldn't be a threat to Pie in CF. Provides some pop off the bench, and apparently the A's won't take him when there season starts.

[Post Count Padder]

Without starting a new thread, but what about Todd Linden of the A's?

 

While it don't matter too much, but this spring he is hitting:

.577/.633/.885

 

He is a guy capable of playing all three OF position, and wouldn't be a threat to Pie in CF. Provides some pop off the bench, and apparently the A's won't take him when there season starts.

I thought one of the reasons the A's are releasing him is because they feel he can't play CF.

[BigbadB]

Ryan Spilborghs looks like the perfect fit for what Hendry wants: right-handed, plays all 3 OF positions, hits with power.

 

Against lefties: .338(BA) .395(OBP) .510(SLUG) .905(OBS)

 

He is their 4th OF, but I don't know if he would be available. How about Murton + Marshall for Spilborghs?

 

Why isn't Colorado getting in on the Brian Roberts action? Seems simple to me:

 

Baltimore receives Ian Stewart and Franklin Morales

Colorado gets Brian Roberts

 

Colorado increases their chances of winning the NL West, Baltimore gets a couple of key pieces to their rebuilding project.

[BCVM22]

Because Colorado may be the only team with more second basemen than the Cubs. Offhand, they have Nix, Barmes, Stewart, Giles, Quintanilla and Kata all fighting for playing time/a roster spot.

[Rob]

Ryan Spilborghs looks like the perfect fit for what Hendry wants: right-handed, plays all 3 OF positions, hits with power.

 

Against lefties: .338(BA) .395(OBP) .510(SLUG) .905(OBS)

 

He is their 4th OF, but I don't know if he would be available. How about Murton + Marshall for Spilborghs?

 

Why isn't Colorado getting in on the Brian Roberts action? Seems simple to me:

 

Baltimore receives Ian Stewart and Franklin Morales

Colorado gets Brian Roberts

 

Colorado increases their chances of winning the NL West, Baltimore gets a couple of key pieces to their rebuilding project.

 

If I'm the Rockies, I'd rather try to play Stewart at 2B and give Morales a spot in the rotation this year.

[RedFlash]

Without starting a new thread, but what about Todd Linden of the A's?

 

While it don't matter too much, but this spring he is hitting:

.577/.633/.885

 

He is a guy capable of playing all three OF position, and wouldn't be a threat to Pie in CF. Provides some pop off the bench, and apparently the A's won't take him when there season starts.

I thought one of the reasons the A's are releasing him is because they feel he can't play CF.

 

The Cubs aren't asking the player to be able to handle the position long term, just be able the handle the position for a day here, and there. Something, I'm pretty sure Linden could handle on a temp basis.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I'm not sure of this, but I think Spilborghs is about on par with Murton as a defensive CF.

[rawaction]

I'm not sure of this, but I think Spilborghs is about on par with Murton as a defensive CF.

 

Yeah, from what I've seen of Spilborghs, that's an accurate statement.

[BigbadB]

Because Colorado may be the only team with more second basemen than the Cubs. Offhand, they have Nix, Barmes, Stewart, Giles, Quintanilla and Kata all fighting for playing time/a roster spot.

 

That list is almost as inspiring as the list of 2b's the Cubs have employed over the past 2 seasons. The only player on that list that is any good is Stewart, and he just started playing 2b in Spring Training.

 

I just threw that package out there for discussion. Colorado is in a position to go for it right now. And that's what they should be doing.

[cbbryan]

Ryan Spilborghs looks like the perfect fit for what Hendry wants: right-handed, plays all 3 OF positions, hits with power.

 

Against lefties: .338(BA) .395(OBP) .510(SLUG) .905(OBS)

 

He is their 4th OF, but I don't know if he would be available. How about Murton + Marshall for Spilborghs?

 

No thanks! Marshall is of great value and there's no reason to trade him AND Murton (Who's just as valuable as Spilborghs) for Spilborghs.

[Yanksfan1523]

Why do people on this board want to trade Murton for a 4th outfielder? I have seen him mentioned in a lot of trade rumors on here. Why wouldn't you want to keep him? Not trying to be a jerk, I am truly curious.

[Bull]

Why do people on this board want to trade Murton for a 4th outfielder? I have seen him mentioned in a lot of trade rumors on here. Why wouldn't you want to keep him? Not trying to be a jerk, I am truly curious.

 

Because he has no position with the Cubs.

[wilk]

No thanks, not at that price. And his career line away from Coors looks like:

 

.274/.324/.417/.741

 

Whereas at Coors, his career OPS is .899.

 

But the question is what he'd do against lefties, isn't it?

 

Career vs LHP away: .308 / .353 / .513

2007 vs LHP: .356 / .426 / .586 (Away: .380 / .429 / .680)

 

As for his defense in center, it's probably not "Murton in center," but it's not very good.

[badnews]

Why isn't Colorado getting in on the Brian Roberts action? Seems simple to me:

 

Baltimore receives Ian Stewart and Franklin Morales

Colorado gets Brian Roberts

 

Colorado increases their chances of winning the NL West, Baltimore gets a couple of key pieces to their rebuilding project.

 

That sounds like an insane trade from the part of the Rockies, that's why they're not doing it. The only thing "simple" about it is what an outstanding rip-off it would be.

 

Let's look at this. The Rockies' lineup is fine. The Rockies need pitching. So what's the proposal? The Rockies send their best pitching prospect, who is also the 4th best pitching prospect in baseball, and the second best lefthanded pitching prospect in baseball, the second best pitching prospect in the NL, to the Orioles, for Brian Roberts, a guy who can improve a lineup that doesn't need improving. And all they have to do to complete this trade is send along Baseball America's #38 prospect, Ian Stewart, a guy who will likely start outproducing Roberts in one or two years.

 

The Rockies need Franklin Morales 10x more than they need Brian Roberts. Trading the 8th and 38th best prospects in baseball for Brian Roberts doesn't make sense. Using the rankings, that's close value to trading Jay Bruce (#1) and Johnny Cueto (#34) for Brian Roberts.

 

The idea that the Rockies should pedal a possible ace lefty, who is only 21 and has a career minor league K/9 of near 10, for a 2b they don't need makes no sense to me. If you want to trade Morales, fine, but it's got to be for pitching. And I think the Rox would agree.

 

I don't know why it seems like every "go for it" trade proposal seems like a bad one. The Tigers made a perfectly good "go for it" trade by trading for Miguel Cabrera. In my opinion, Andrew Miller isn't going to be the ace he's hyped up to be, and the lesser four guys are nothing to write home about. That's "going for it" without going wild and paying $15 for a $5 player.

[badnews]

Linden is a poor fit. He doesn't seem to hit lefties significantly better than righties (does he?) or anyone well, he doesn't play center field well, and he strikes out just way too many times for the type of player he is. Pass.

[Backtobanks]

Why do people on this board want to trade Murton for a 4th outfielder? I have seen him mentioned in a lot of trade rumors on here. Why wouldn't you want to keep him? Not trying to be a jerk, I am truly curious.

 

I really like Murton, but he can't play CF and that's where the Cubs need somebody. Also (assuming the Roberts trade happens), DeRosa and Ward can cover the corner OF positions. Fukudome has said he would fill in at CF if asked, but he picked the Cubs because he was told it would be as a RF. It's a shame Soriano doesn't want any part of CF because Murton/ Soriano/ Fukudome would be a very productive OF if Pie flops. I guess the best solution would involve Pie being successful in CF and then everything else falls into place.

[cbbryan]

Why do people on this board want to trade Murton for a 4th outfielder? I have seen him mentioned in a lot of trade rumors on here. Why wouldn't you want to keep him? Not trying to be a jerk, I am truly curious.

 

Because he has no position with the Cubs.

 

 

I don't mind if he's traded, but lets see the Cubs get something of value in return. The problem I have with many of the trade proposals including Murton is that he seems as if he's a throw-in to the deal. I don't want the Cubs to give him away. That said I like Murton a lot and would like to see him get an opportunity to play everyday.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I have no interest in Spillborghs.

[MojoJojo]

Troy Renck, Rockies beat writer, was on sports talk radio in Denver this morning and Spilborghs was a major topic. During the discussion, he mentioned that at the winter meetings "Lou Piniella would have given his right arm to have Spilborghs come and be the everyday centerfielder for the Cubs." Unfortunately, he didn't mention any Cubs players that may have been discussed as part of a trade. Still, I thought it was a somewhat interesting postscript to this question.

[imb]

we'd probably have to get a third team involved

[rchap24]

Troy Renck, Rockies beat writer, was on sports talk radio in Denver this morning and Spilborghs was a major topic. During the discussion, he mentioned that at the winter meetings "Lou Piniella would have given his right arm to have Spilborghs come and be the everyday centerfielder for the Cubs." Unfortunately, he didn't mention any Cubs players that may have been discussed as part of a trade. Still, I thought it was a somewhat interesting postscript to this question.

 

that sounds like there might be something behind that

[Post Count Padder]

Troy Renck, Rockies beat writer, was on sports talk radio in Denver this morning and Spilborghs was a major topic. During the discussion, he mentioned that at the winter meetings "Lou Piniella would have given his right arm to have Spilborghs come and be the everyday centerfielder for the Cubs." Unfortunately, he didn't mention any Cubs players that may have been discussed as part of a trade. Still, I thought it was a somewhat interesting postscript to this question.

Interesting. I'm glad it didn't happen because we would have given up more than we would have wanted.