Re: The Chicago Bears Offseason Thread

[Guest]

he isnt a no.1 reciever. for that money, either your a no.1 reciever or your not. i am a big berrian fan, but not for the money he will get.

 

Yeah, this is my problem with him.

[YearofDaCubs]

I'd be ok with letting Berrian walk and sign Bryant Johnson to a contract.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I'd be ok with letting Berrian walk and sign Bryant Johnson to a contract.

 

idk. Johnson doesnt impress me. just give BB his money. if he doenst perform as if he is worth it next year, let him go. in the meantime, work with Bradly and drafting.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

I'd be ok with letting Berrian walk and sign Bryant Johnson to a contract.

 

idk. Johnson doesnt impress me. just give BB his money. if he doenst perform as if he is worth it next year, let him go. in the meantime, work with Bradly and drafting.

 

its really as simple as this, you can sign jesus to play wr for this team, but none of it matters if the line stays the same. (which it isnt... ja has my seal of approval so far).

[RedFlash]

I'd be ok with letting Berrian walk and sign Bryant Johnson to a contract.

 

I agree. And the Bears could still take another solid WR prospect possibly in the 2nd rd.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I'd be ok with letting Berrian walk and sign Bryant Johnson to a contract.

 

I agree. And the Bears could still take another solid WR prospect possibly in the 2nd rd.

 

idk, with the WR FA market this offseason as it is, your looking at a guy who has abot 1/2 the production as BB and will likely command a simular salary as BB. I'd just stick with who we have.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'd be ok with letting Berrian walk and sign Bryant Johnson to a contract.

 

I agree. And the Bears could still take another solid WR prospect possibly in the 2nd rd.

 

idk, with the WR FA market this offseason as it is, your looking at a guy who has abot 1/2 the production as BB and will likely command a simular salary as BB. I'd just stick with who we have.

 

I think a major problem is a lot of people apparently think Berrian has had about twice the production he's actually had.

 

He's done very little in the NFL for him to be thought of as a #1 receiver. Very little.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I'd be ok with letting Berrian walk and sign Bryant Johnson to a contract.

 

I agree. And the Bears could still take another solid WR prospect possibly in the 2nd rd.

 

idk, with the WR FA market this offseason as it is, your looking at a guy who has abot 1/2 the production as BB and will likely command a simular salary as BB. I'd just stick with who we have.

 

I think a major problem is a lot of people apparently think Berrian has had about twice the production he's actually had.

 

He's done very little in the NFL for him to be thought of as a #1 receiver. Very little.

 

what makes Johsnon a better bet?

 

http://sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/396163

 

 

BB almost 2x's prduction

 

http://sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/492890

 

I still rather stick with BB for our #1

then Johnson

[Guest]

I agree that Bryant Johnson isn't the answer. Nor is any free agent out there (sans Moss) a #1 WR.

 

That doesn't make Berrian a #1, no matter the carousel at QB he had this past season. He's a good player, just not a #1 WR.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I agree that Bryant Johnson isn't the answer. Nor is any free agent out there (sans Moss) a #1 WR.

 

That doesn't make Berrian a #1, no matter the carousel at QB he had this past season. He's a good player, just not a #1 WR.

 

I guess in my point of view, unfortunately right now he is our best option @ #1.

[jersey cubs fan]

I agree that Bryant Johnson isn't the answer. Nor is any free agent out there (sans Moss) a #1 WR.

 

That doesn't make Berrian a #1, no matter the carousel at QB he had this past season. He's a good player, just not a #1 WR.

 

I guess in my point of view, unfortunately right now he is our best option @ #1.

 

While the Cubs can get away with paying non-stars like Soriano superstar money, in a salary cap environment, the Bears can't really justify paying #1 WR money to a WR who isn't close to being a number 1. It doesn't matter if he's their best or not. Personally I think Hester could very quickly get to Berrian's level, which isn't all that high. I'd love to have a legit #1, but I'd rather have properly paid 2's and 3's than an overpaid #1.

[rawaction]

I'd think hard about paying Berrian like a #1 for a season (aka franchise him) because otherwise you go into next season with about 60 career grabs at WR. That doesn't mean he's a #1 though. I think he's just a slightly above average #2 now, with the potential to be a pretty good #2 (think John Taylor of 49ers fame) with a better offense and QB situation.

[cubweiser03]

From the Washington Post

--If the Redskins pursue potential free-agent linebacker Lance Briggs of the Bears for the second consecutive year, it won't come cheap, according to league sources. Drew Rosenhaus, Briggs's agent, is seeking a deal worth $20 million guaranteed and averaging about $7 million a season, according to a source. Chicago recently made a modest offer to retain hm but the team expects Briggs to become a free agent, according to a source. Given the Redskins' cap situation and desire to procure a star wide receiver on the open market, Briggs could prove too pricey. The Bears believe the 49ers will be Briggs's most determined suitor.

 

BB. I dont have a problem if the Bears overpay for Berrian a little. Their depth at WR doesnt put them in a position to be tough negotiators, especially with this years FA WR class. I hate to rely on the draft to find WR too, receivers are such a crapshoot when it comes to the draft and they typically struggle their rookie year. The 2008 WR depth for the Bears could be ugly without BB.

[jersey cubs fan]

I'd think hard about paying Berrian like a #1 for a season (aka franchise him) because otherwise you go into next season with about 60 career grabs at WR. That doesn't mean he's a #1 though. I think he's just a slightly above average #2 now, with the potential to be a pretty good #2 (think John Taylor of 49ers fame) with a better offense and QB situation.

I'd think hard about paying Berrian like a #1 for a season (aka franchise him) because otherwise you go into next season with about 60 career grabs at WR. That doesn't mean he's a #1 though. I think he's just a slightly above average #2 now, with the potential to be a pretty good #2 (think John Taylor of 49ers fame) with a better offense and QB situation.

 

The problem with franchising Berrian is you go from paying him like a #1 to paying him like a superstar. But that deadline has passed so it's not an issue.

 

I think Bradley and Hester can come very close to producing what Moose and Berrian give you (which isn't much), numbers-wise. 100+ catches for 1100 yards and 8 TDs? Add in more numbers for Olsen, and another receiver to the mix who should be able to the replace what your 3rd WR gave you last year, and it can be done. Catches aren't that hard to replace in football, as long as you keep throwing the same amount. In my opinion you have the elite, the second tier, and then everybody else. The entire Bears WR crew has been "everybody else" and replacing them with others should not be a problem.

[MPC]

they better cut archeluta's underproduced, overpaid ass.

[minnesotacubsfan]

it would appear JA never intended to franchise BB

 

 

http://chicagosports.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/cs-080221chicago-bears-bernard-berrian,1,2012216.story

 

 

 

lets hope Olsen, Bradley and Clark are big int he offense next year. also, the offered Grossman a contract

[Soul]

Good to see the Bears aren't bowing to public hysteria on Grossman. He's still the best arm in a Bears uni since forever. That's not saying much, but dumping QBs with actual NFL-calibre arms is a stupid idea for a franchise that has shown it struggles mightily to identify a QB that has even moderate skills.

 

Sadly, when Berrian leaves we will be left with the worst WR corps in the NFL.

[NCCubFan]

its really as simple as this, you can sign jesus to play wr for this team, but none of it matters if the line stays the same.

Solution: Sign Moses as an offensive lineman. He'd part the defense. :D

[RedFlash]

Good to see the Bears aren't bowing to public hysteria on Grossman. He's still the best arm in a Bears uni since forever. That's not saying much, but dumping QBs with actual NFL-calibre arms is a stupid idea for a franchise that has shown it struggles mightily to identify a QB that has even moderate skills.

 

Sadly, when Berrian leaves we will be left with the worst WR corps in the NFL.

 

First: Grossman is not the answer at QB, but he is still a better option then anything that could be had via draft (san Matt Ryan and perhaps Brian Brohm), or trade, or free agency. So anything around 2 yrs for Grossman, I could live with, as long as it leaves the Bears an opporntunity to draft his replacement.

 

Second: If they DO re-sign Grossman, they need to put him into position to succeed. If that means they have to go get say an Alan Faneca and/or Max Starks plus draft a kid in the 2nd rd, then so be it. But if the Bears don't plan on re-signing Berrian , THEY MUST FIND A REPLACEMENT. I love the potential of Bradley, Davis and Hester, but none of the three can be counted on to be a #2, much less the lead reciever. Which means, the Bears might have to be proactive, and go after a weapon that could help Grossman, ie Moss (i'm not in favor of Moss, but..).

 

Sitting still should NOT be a priority for the Bears. They have to be proactive.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Next year is going to be another ugly one, isn't it.

[BDWeav71]

If they stay healthy, and draft smart, I still expect this team to compete for a wild card spot in the NFC next season.

 

 

Those, however, are two big ifs.

[RynoRules]

If they fix the O-Line, this team will win 9 or 10 games. If they also get a safety and a DT they should absolutely win 10 games, perhaps 11.

[rawaction]

If they fix the O-Line, this team will win 9 or 10 games. If they also get a safety and a DT they should absolutely win 10 games, perhaps 11.

 

Not that I buy into this stuff, but people like to point out that the Superbowl loser doesn't make the playoffs the year after. But nobody ever points out that those teams are usually back in the playoffs the year after that. The last 3 SB losers (which is as far back as I checked) from the NFC (not including Seattle who made the playoffs the year after) that have missed the playoffs in the year after, have made the playoffs the very next season. Carolina even went to the conference championship in 05.

[jersey cubs fan]

Next year is going to be another ugly one, isn't it.

 

I doubt it. They will probably be pretty good, assuming they make (some of) the necessary improvements. I doubt they're picking as high as 14 next year, barring a trade. 10 wins is a reasonable expectation.

[biittner77]

Next year is going to be another ugly one, isn't it.

 

I doubt it. They will probably be pretty good, assuming they make (some of) the necessary improvements. I doubt they're picking as high as 14 next year, barring a trade. 10 wins is a reasonable expectation.

 

I don't expect the Green Bay Favres to be as good, the Vikings will be OK and the Lions will be the Lions. The Bears ought to be able to do better against the NFC north and win the division assuming they address O line and safety.