Bedard and Roberts to the Cubs back on?

[Derwood]

my guy says....

 

 

oh, forget it

[cbbryan]

Is there even any conceivable way we could get Bedard and Roberts without giving up Hill?

 

I can't really see it at all. But Meph did propose an idea before (not remembering what the deal was right now).

 

I don't think you need to give up Hill unless you really undervalue Marshall/Gallagher.

 

If the Cubs have to give up Pie, Marshall, and Gallagher + other prospects for Bedard and Roberts that's one thing, but if Hill's included as well............. I'll pass and I think Hendry would as well. It just doesn't make sense on the Cubs side to add Bedard, but lose Hill. I don't see this team as being any better with Bedard minus Hill and Pie.

[Schwarber Fan]

This is probably the least credible rumor we've had so far.

[sporrer17]

If we lose Hill and Pie, no way. If we just lose Pie, that's fine.

 

Zambrano, Bedard, Lilly, Marquis, Hill (just to break up the LHs). Filthy.

[JWCUB]

If we lose Hill and Pie, no way. If we just lose Pie, that's fine.

 

Zambrano, Bedard, Lilly, Marquis, Hill (just to break up the LHs). Filthy.

 

 

Thats a nice rotation.

[Schwarber Fan]

If we lose Hill and Pie, no way. If we just lose Pie, that's fine.

 

Zambrano, Bedard, Lilly, Marquis, Hill (just to break up the LHs). Filthy.

 

 

Thats a nice rotation.

 

Except Marquis is in it and Lieber isn't

[inari]

If we lose Hill and Pie, no way. If we just lose Pie, that's fine.

 

Zambrano, Bedard, Lilly, Marquis, Hill (just to break up the LHs). Filthy.

 

 

Thats a nice rotation.

 

Except Marquis is in it and Lieber isn't

 

I think people are constantly forgetting that Jon Leiber is on the team.

[E.J.]

Everyone's an insider in the internet age. I've completely given up on believing anything until the deal is actually completed. I just don't understand why we would trade for Bedard.

[SouthSideRyan]

Nevermind. Edited January 30, 2008 by SouthSideRyan

[A New Era]

This is me replying to that idiot poster at ProSports not David.

 

"Yeeeeaahhhhh. . . . . Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiigggght."

[Cubsmac]

If we lose Hill and Pie, no way. If we just lose Pie, that's fine.

 

Zambrano, Bedard, Lilly, Marquis, Hill (just to break up the LHs). Filthy.

 

YOU CAN'T BREAK UP 3 LEFTIES IN A 5 MAN ROTATION.

 

Pretty sure he is just stating that he put Marquis (or Lieber) ahead of Hill in the rotation as to avoid going with 3 straight Lefties. In that case, yes you can break them up. Inevitable that youll have 2 in a row, but can keep them from goin 3 straight games.

[anabiono]

bedard, z, lilly, lieber, hill

 

if only man

 

if only

[David]

Everyone's an insider in the internet age. I've completely given up on believing anything until the deal is actually completed. I just don't understand why we would trade for Bedard.

 

 

IF (big if) you're not giving up Hill, I'm not sure I understand why we wouldn't.

 

Not that I believe this rumor for a second.

[Post Count Padder]

bedard, z, lilly, lieber, hill

 

if only man

 

if only

Me likey

[Peoriaman]

They want Hill, They will not take what they call "spare parts" for Roberts.

[Mephistopheles]

Is there even any conceivable way we could get Bedard and Roberts without giving up Hill?

 

I can't really see it at all. But Meph did propose an idea before (not remembering what the deal was right now).

 

I might have made an idea for Bedard but without Roberts. I don't recall coming up with one with Bedard and Roberts.

 

We'd probably have to go something like Felix Pie, Carlos Marmol, Sean Marshall/Sean Gallagher, Ronny Cedeno, Matt Murton and on of {Veal, Gallagher/Marshall, anyone else in the system}. Still in the end lots of spare parts for Bedard and Roberts.

[David]

Is there even any conceivable way we could get Bedard and Roberts without giving up Hill?

 

I can't really see it at all. But Meph did propose an idea before (not remembering what the deal was right now).

 

I might have made an idea for Bedard but without Roberts. I don't recall coming up with one with Bedard and Roberts.

 

We'd probably have to go something like Felix Pie, Carlos Marmol, Sean Marshall/Sean Gallagher, Ronny Cedeno, Matt Murton and on of {Veal, Gallagher/Marshall, anyone else in the system}. Still in the end lots of spare parts for Bedard and Roberts.

 

 

I know I remember something... lemme see.

 

 

Oh, it was including Hill, my bad.

 

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=45628&p=1651723#p1651723

 

fine trade for brian roberts and erik bedard allowing hill and pie to go, but then trade for khalil greene with murton +, sign kenny lofton and ill be happy. i could care less about getting roberts and bedard, it's probably a wash trade but man oh man it's worth getting a real SS.

[sporrer17]

I realize you can't avoid having 2 LHs in a row if you have 3/5th LHs...I just don't like the idea of 3 in a row.

 

And yes, I forgot to put Lieber in there. I don't know if he's much better than Marquis at this point though.

[HoopsCubs]

There's no doubt in my mind that Bedard still ends up in Seattle.

 

I know it's against the religion of this board to say anything positive about Andy MacPhail, but perhaps this Bedard thing with Seattle has been drawn out because the Orioles wanted to see what the Twins got for Santana. My thinking is that MacPhail was tipped off by somebody in the league office over the weekend that the Santana trade would be going down soon, so he decided to wait it out.

 

I think we'll see Bedard dealt in the next 48 hours. My gut says Seattle too, but I wouldn't rule out a NL contender seeing as the Mets just improved themselves.

[Abe Frohman]

I just want to get in on this fabulous thread.

[RedFlash]

There's no doubt in my mind that Bedard still ends up in Seattle.

 

I know it's against the religion of this board to say anything positive about Andy MacPhail, but perhaps this Bedard thing with Seattle has been drawn out because the Orioles wanted to see what the Twins got for Santana. My thinking is that MacPhail was tipped off by somebody in the league office over the weekend that the Santana trade would be going down soon, so he decided to wait it out.

 

I think we'll see Bedard dealt in the next 48 hours. My gut says Seattle too, but I wouldn't rule out a NL contender seeing as the Mets just improved themselves.

 

What NL contender?

 

Maybe Cincy? Perhaps Philly? The Dodgers are out after the Japanese guy they signed. Astros don't have enough to pry loose a Mike Hampton much less Bedard. Maybe St. Louis. The ONLY 3 NL contenders (or possible contenders) for Bedard would be Cubs/Cards/Reds. So, I agree with a couple of other guys, and say Bedard stays in the AL.

[PrimeTime]

Pie,Marquis,Murton,Cedeno,Gallagher and one mor..Call it a deal

[biittner77]

There's no doubt in my mind that Bedard still ends up in Seattle.

 

I know it's against the religion of this board to say anything positive about Andy MacPhail, but perhaps this Bedard thing with Seattle has been drawn out because the Orioles wanted to see what the Twins got for Santana. My thinking is that MacPhail was tipped off by somebody in the league office over the weekend that the Santana trade would be going down soon, so he decided to wait it out.

 

I think we'll see Bedard dealt in the next 48 hours. My gut says Seattle too, but I wouldn't rule out a NL contender seeing as the Mets just improved themselves.

 

Maybe he wants to trade Bedard and Roberts for Santana. :lol:

 

Seriously, that explanation would make sense if they weren't getting some pretty nice prospects in the deal. But it seems like the players they were rumored to be getting from Seattle was about as good as they are going to get for Bedard.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

ok, this is what happend

 

Andy MacPhail orginally knew the Cubs wanted Roberts, but he wanted Hill so Hendry refused and then he offered Hill but wanted Bedard then MacPhail refused, so then Hendry tossed in Pie and Veal so this time time MacPhail agreed, but by that time Angelo's had veto'd the orginal deal that did not include Pie and Veal, so MacPhail had to go back to Angelo's with the updated deal from Hendry and Angelo's signed off, but then by that time they got another deal from Seattle, Andy got this deal together with Seatlle and it was all good to go and he brought it back to Angelo's who veto'd it because he was confused at this point and really didn't know what was going on, but Andy kept at Angelo's and after hours upon hours of explaining he finally got him to agree to the trade but by that time Seattle saw that the Mets got Santana for less so they balked at this trade offer, so now Andy is back and square one with Henry and the Cubs

[BigbadB]

There's no doubt in my mind that Bedard still ends up in Seattle.

 

I know it's against the religion of this board to say anything positive about Andy MacPhail, but perhaps this Bedard thing with Seattle has been drawn out because the Orioles wanted to see what the Twins got for Santana. My thinking is that MacPhail was tipped off by somebody in the league office over the weekend that the Santana trade would be going down soon, so he decided to wait it out.

 

I think we'll see Bedard dealt in the next 48 hours. My gut says Seattle too, but I wouldn't rule out a NL contender seeing as the Mets just improved themselves.

 

Maybe he wants to trade Bedard and Roberts for Santana. :lol:

 

Seriously, that explanation would make sense if they weren't getting some pretty nice prospects in the deal. But it seems like the players they were rumored to be getting from Seattle was about as good as they are going to get for Bedard.

 

There's another element to consider. The teams who lose out on the Santana derby can now switch gears and offer up prospects for Bedard.