If Pie is modestly successful, who's his MLB comparable?

[badnews]

Just to note, I really don't have a lot of faith in Pie, but I wonder, his minor league career doesn't compare well with any recent successful major league outfielders that I can think of, it's usually a case of some combination of the would-be comparable walking more, striking out less, or hitting for more power, but I wonder if there are good comparables I'm not thinking of.

 

Anyway I'm just interested in who people think the comparables are.

[Anomalied]

I always considered him a Carl Crawford type of player.

[badnews]

His stolen base record seems pretty mediocre for a Carl Crawford comparison. Crawford didn't spend much time in the minors so it's hard to compare their minor league records. The same goes for Baldelli. And even at Pie's age Crawford had a significantly more muscular build. Edited December 18, 2007 by badnews

[Yanksfan1523]

Deion Sanders is who I was reminded of when I watched him. He should have more power than Sanders and a better arm. But body type and first to third speed, Sanders stuck in my head.

[sneakypower]

Scouts have often compared him to Carlos Beltran, I'm assuming the 5-tool KC version before he became a slugger.

 

He was also compared to Vlad Guerrero early in his professional career, but that comparison doesn't make too much sense anymore.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I like the Crawford comparison. Not as good on the basepaths, but a much better defender.

[badnews]

I remember the Vlad comparison... poor Vlad. He's really trotted out there a lot.

[SouthSideRyan]

Vernon Wells?

[Omar]

Corey Patterson (when he was good)

[badnews]

Crawford was a significantly better contact hitter than Pie in the minors, he stole bases a lot better, he was built a lot better at Pie's age, this seems like wishcasting to me. If someone said Torii Hunter I'd find that more believable. Although the Twins had to put up with a long bad stretch to get Hunter where he was, I think Pie would be dumped in that time.

 

Vernon Wells struck out a lot less than Pie and had a better BB/K ratio.

[sneakypower]

Andy Van Slyke is the most reasonable name I can think of.

[mhuber92211]

David DeJesus?

[Drew Doughty]

Curtis Granderson w/ less power.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I used to think the early Kenny Lofton might be a good comparison, but I doubt he'll ever get on base that much.

 

I really think we might be lucky to get Lonnie Smith like production out of him.

 

If he can produce Lonnie Smith age 25-27 level production, we'll be ok.

[JGalt73]

Here are BP's PECOTA comparables:

 

1 BRANDON MOSS 2006

2 Claudell Washington 1977

3 Gus Bell 1951

4 GRADY SIZEMORE 2004

5 Rick Manning 1977

6 Junior Felix 1990

7 NIC JACKSON 2002

8 LAYNCE NIX 2003

9 Willie Davis 1962

10 CARLOS BELTRAN 1999

11 MIKE DARR 1998

12 TONY MOTA 2000

13 Carl Yastrzemski 1962

14 Vada Pinson 1961

15 MICHAEL COLEMAN 1998

16 NATE MCLOUTH 2004

17 Andruw Jones 1999

18 CHIN-FENG CHEN 2000

19 JUAN ENCARNACION 1998

20 CHAD HERMANSEN 2000

[treebird]

one people used to use a lot is marquis grissom with better defense

[CyHawk_Cub]

Corey Patterson (when we mistakenly thought he was good)

 

Fixed??????

[CuseCubFan69]

Corey Patterson (when we mistakenly thought he was good)

 

Fixed??????

 

Patterson is one of the best CF's for a 2 year stint or more, if not thee best, the Cubs have had since I've followed them. That does say something of the hole at that position they've had but still, the ones before have really been below average.

[SouthSideRyan]

Patterson was better than good in '03 and was good in '04.

[CuseCubFan69]

Patterson was better than good in '03 and was good in '04.

 

I wish he didn't hurt his knee because he was in a very good groove.

[Lockes Eye Scar]

2006 Curtis Granderson

[shnsajax]

His stolen base record seems pretty mediocre for a Carl Crawford comparison. Crawford didn't spend much time in the minors so it's hard to compare their minor league records. The same goes for Baldelli. And even at Pie's age Crawford had a significantly more muscular build.

 

Crawford played a lot of football though which would help that area. As a pure athlete Crawford has Pie beat by a wide margin.

[haltz]

Devon White. I don't know half as much about Pie as most of you guys, but how's a mediocre OBP, decent slugging for his era, and excellent defense work? Edited December 18, 2007 by haltz

[rawaction]

Willie McGee with more power.

[UK1679666180]

http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=soriaal01&year=2001

 

Hopefully some more BBs with less steals. That's for next year only.

Edited December 18, 2007 by UK