HAPPY MITCHELL REPORT DAY!!!!!!!! Clemens named.

[E.J.]

It's kind of funny watching you guys try to convince yourselves that Sammy wasn't a roid user.

[Mephistopheles]

Steven Randolph pitched for the disastros last year.

[UMFan83]

All Stars:

 

Sheffield, Tejada, Clemens, Pettite, Brian Roberts, Lenny Dykstra, Jason Giambi, Todd Hundley, Eric Gagne, Chuck Knoblauch, David Justice, Mo Vaughn, Denny Neagle, Mike Stanton, Paul Lo Duca, Fernando Vina, Kevin Brown, Brendan Donnelly.

 

And from that list:

 

MVPs: Mo Vaughn, Jason Giambi, Miguel Tejada

Cy Youngs: Roger Clemens, Eric Gagne

[Sammy Sofa]

It's kind of funny watching you guys try to convince yourselves that Sammy wasn't a roid user.

 

It's kind of weird that nobody seems able to bust him.

 

Seriously...we're talking about Sammy-freakin'-Sosa, and he he keeps making out like the Teflon Slugger.

[Roast]

In all honesty and with (almost) all my sosa love aside, i think it's possible that he didn't do roids. Yes his body Hulked up but he also went from being a mal-nourished dirt-poor kid to being a millionaire with access to extensive training programs and workout facilities and according to everything I've ever read - he basically lived in th gym.

 

Anyway, He wasn't named in the report and he has yet to have anything close to solid damning evidence put out against him so - until he does - he's clean to me.

 

 

All that said, it still seems like it was a way of life at that time in baseball so even if he did i suppose it's not that surprising.

 

Didn't Sosa also bulk up at a younger age than a lot of these guys? Like, when it would be more natural to do so.

 

Yes. People don't really realize just how dirt poor Sosa was growing up and what kind of Craptastic diet he had as a result. Once he got to this country (and, more importantly, finally made some money) he was able to afford a stable diet and was introduced to a workout routine that is conducive to building body mass. Also, as TheMojoPin pointed out, Sosa was a notorious Gym-rat.

 

 

oh, and on an unrelated note, this is on the front page of Yahoo:

Baseball's steroid bombshell

 

MLB's steroids report includes a big surprise: Roger Clemens.

 

 

hahaha, yeah, BIG surprise.

[GoCubsGo1679625768]

Well now that George has produced this fancy PDA telling me that baseball players did steriods, I think it is time for him to go back home, collect his 50K/month senate pension, and resume being a non-contributing senior member of our society.

[wrigley23]

i've found the report. where can you just get the list of names?

[tinkerstoeverstochance]

Does this insure we get Roberts cheaper now?

[E.J.]

i've found the report. where can you just get the list of names?

 

OMC listed all of the players a couple pages back in this thread.

[C.C.]

It's kind of funny watching you guys try to convince yourselves that Sammy wasn't a roid user.

 

It's kind of weird that nobody seems able to bust him.

 

Seriously...we're talking about Sammy-freakin'-Sosa, and he he keeps making out like the Teflon Slugger.

 

Indeed. He must have a iron clad supplier.

[UMFan83]

i've found the report. where can you just get the list of names?

 

OMC listed all of the players a couple pages back in this thread.

 

http://deadspin.com/sports/the-official-list/the-complete-list-of-players-mentioned-in-the-mitchell-report-333634.php

[E.J.]

It's kind of funny watching you guys try to convince yourselves that Sammy wasn't a roid user.

 

It's kind of weird that nobody seems able to bust him.

 

Seriously...we're talking about Sammy-freakin'-Sosa, and he he keeps making out like the Teflon Slugger.

 

Indeed. He must have a iron clad supplier.

 

All this report says to me is that Sosa was way smarter than I gave him credit for.

[jersey cubs fan]

pretty big waste of time.

Ironically, that pharse could be used to sum up Seligs entire tenure as commissioner.

 

Very true.

 

I know it's fun and all, but I just don't get the broad brushed bashing of Bud at every turn. People just love ripping authority figures I guess.

[tinkerstoeverstochance]

for those who don't wanna go back heres the list!

 

Lenny Dykstra

David Segui

Larry Bigbie

Brian Roberts

Jack Cust

Tim Laker

Josias Manzanillo

Todd Hundley

Mark Carreon

Hal Morris

Matt Franco

Rondell White

Roger Clemens

Andy Pettitte

Chuck Knoblauch

Jason Grimsley

Gregg Zaun

David Justice

F.P. Santangelo

Glenallen Hill

Mo Vaughn

Denny Neagle

Ron Villone

Ryan Franklin

Chris Donnels

Todd Williams

Phil Hiatt

Todd Pratt

Kevin Young

Mike Lansing

Cody McKay

Kent Mercker

Adam Piatt

Miguel Tejada

Jason Christiansen

Mike Stanton

Stephen Randolph

Jerry Hairston

Paul Lo Duca

Adam Riggs

Bart Miadich

Fernando Vina

Kevin Brown

Eric Gagne

Mike Bell

Matt Herges

Gary Bennett, Jr.

Jim Parque

Brendan Donnelly

Chad Allen

Jeff Williams

Howie Clark

Nook Logan

 

Section IX. B."Alleged Internet Purchases of Performance Enhancing Substances By Players in Major League Baseball"

 

Rick Ankiel, Paul Byrd, Jay Gibbons, Troy Glaus, Jose Guillen, Jerry Hairston, Jr., Gary Matthews, Jr., and Scott Schoeneweis, and former players David Bell, Jose Canseco, Jason Grimsley, Darren Holmes, John Rocker, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams, and Steve Woodard."

[imb]

I KNOW WHAT I KNOW AND I DONT NEED NO DAMN PROOF TO KNOW SOMETHING

[jersey cubs fan]

It's kind of funny watching you guys try to convince yourselves that Sammy wasn't a roid user.

 

It's kind of weird that nobody seems able to bust him.

 

Seriously...we're talking about Sammy-freakin'-Sosa, and he he keeps making out like the Teflon Slugger.

 

Indeed. He must have a iron clad supplier.

 

Or he eliminated any potential witnesses. He's Keyzer Sosa.

Edited December 13, 2007 by jersey cubs fan

[Roast]

for those who don't wanna go back heres the list!

 

Lenny Dykstra

David Segui

Larry Bigbie

Brian Roberts

Jack Cust

Tim Laker

Josias Manzanillo

Todd Hundley

Mark Carreon

Hal Morris

Matt Franco

Rondell White

Roger Clemens

Andy Pettitte

Chuck Knoblauch

Jason Grimsley

Gregg Zaun

David Justice

F.P. Santangelo

Glenallen Hill

Mo Vaughn

Denny Neagle

Ron Villone

Ryan Franklin

Chris Donnels

Todd Williams

Phil Hiatt

Todd Pratt

Kevin Young

Mike Lansing

Cody McKay

Kent Mercker

Adam Piatt

Miguel Tejada

Jason Christiansen

Mike Stanton

Stephen Randolph

Jerry Hairston

Paul Lo Duca

Adam Riggs

Bart Miadich

Fernando Vina

Kevin Brown

Eric Gagne

Mike Bell

Matt Herges

Gary Bennett, Jr.

Jim Parque

Brendan Donnelly

Chad Allen

Jeff Williams

Howie Clark

Nook Logan

 

Section IX. B."Alleged Internet Purchases of Performance Enhancing Substances By Players in Major League Baseball"

 

Rick Ankiel, Paul Byrd, Jay Gibbons, Troy Glaus, Jose Guillen, Jerry Hairston, Jr., Gary Matthews, Jr., and Scott Schoeneweis, and former players David Bell, Jose Canseco, Jason Grimsley, Darren Holmes, John Rocker, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams, and Steve Woodard."

 

The list OMC provided is different, and included bonds. This one does not for some reason.

[Guest]

In all honesty and with (almost) all my sosa love aside, i think it's possible that he didn't do roids. Yes his body Hulked up but he also went from being a mal-nourished dirt-poor kid to being a millionaire with access to extensive training programs and workout facilities and according to everything I've ever read - he basically lived in th gym.

 

Anyway, He wasn't named in the report and he has yet to have anything close to solid damning evidence put out against him so - until he does - he's clean to me.

 

 

All that said, it still seems like it was a way of life at that time in baseball so even if he did i suppose it's not that surprising.

 

Players who come into camp 20 pounds heavier than they were at the end of the previous season always say that they spent all winter in the gym and dedicated themselves to getting in better shape. Not saying that Sammy was lying about it and did take steroids but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he did.

[Roast]

I KNOW WHAT I KNOW AND I DONT NEED NO DAMN PROOF TO KNOW SOMETHING

=D>

[Guest]

Yeah, Mitchell sucks. It's become clear he is happy for the publicity.

 

 

 

Also, anyone watching the ESPN feed get some strange foreign language come over the audio? That was hilarious.

 

I'm sure that's exactly right. He only did this for the pub.

[E.J.]

I find it funny that Kruk is on ESPN talking about cheaters and such. You know that fat bastard tried everything he could get his hands on.

[Roast]

In all honesty and with (almost) all my sosa love aside, i think it's possible that he didn't do roids. Yes his body Hulked up but he also went from being a mal-nourished dirt-poor kid to being a millionaire with access to extensive training programs and workout facilities and according to everything I've ever read - he basically lived in th gym.

 

Anyway, He wasn't named in the report and he has yet to have anything close to solid damning evidence put out against him so - until he does - he's clean to me.

 

 

All that said, it still seems like it was a way of life at that time in baseball so even if he did i suppose it's not that surprising.

 

Players who come into camp 20 pounds heavier than they were at the end of the previous season always say that they spent all winter in the gym and dedicated themselves to getting in better shape. Not saying that Sammy was lying about it and did take steroids but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he did.

 

But the average player isnt growing out of being a mal-nourished teen.

 

Well, i guess some of them are - but regardless. I wouldn't be overly shocked if it came out that sosa did roids either, if for no other reason than the era he played in. That being said - No one has been able to build up anything resembling a solid case against him and in all reality I just don't think he did roids.

 

Plus, it's not just sammy that said he spent time in the gym. It's well known that he spent hours on end in the gym every day.

[C.C.]

I find it funny that Kruk is on ESPN talking about cheaters and such. You know that fat bastard tried everything he could get his hands on.

 

 

Alcohol wise I'm sure.

[OleMissCub]

So now our generation's greatest hitter AND greatest pitcher are potentially tarnished.

[E.J.]

In all honesty and with (almost) all my sosa love aside, i think it's possible that he didn't do roids. Yes his body Hulked up but he also went from being a mal-nourished dirt-poor kid to being a millionaire with access to extensive training programs and workout facilities and according to everything I've ever read - he basically lived in th gym.

 

Anyway, He wasn't named in the report and he has yet to have anything close to solid damning evidence put out against him so - until he does - he's clean to me.

 

 

All that said, it still seems like it was a way of life at that time in baseball so even if he did i suppose it's not that surprising.

 

Players who come into camp 20 pounds heavier than they were at the end of the previous season always say that they spent all winter in the gym and dedicated themselves to getting in better shape. Not saying that Sammy was lying about it and did take steroids but I wouldn't be the least bit surprised if he did.

 

But the average player isnt growing out of being a mal-nourished teen.

 

Well, i guess some of them are - but regardless. I wouldn't be overly shocked if it came out that sosa did roids either, if for no other reason than the era he played in. That being said - No one has been able to build up anything resembling a solid case against him and in all reality I just don't think he did roids.

 

Plus, it's not just sammy that said he spent time in the gym. It's well known that he spent hours on end in the gym every day.

 

Okay, how about when Sammy came into camp 20 pounds lighter after the steroid issue came out?