Levine: Prior, Hudson, Swisher

[CuseCubFan69]

Jim Caple on BBTN just said that the Cubs would offer Prior a contract, not sure on the $, but if he does go on the trading block the Rangers would be #1 in line to get him, then the Padres.

 

Interesting.

 

That would have been Buster Olney who is better at stats then trade rumors. What would the Rangers give for Prior that would be worth anything? Wilkerson?

 

Wilkerson could be had without giving anything up. He's a FA.

 

It would be quite a deal then!

[Post Count Padder]

Mark Prior-S-Cubs Dec. 5 - 8:19 pm et

 

The Reds, Padres, Phillies and Rangers are all reportedly in the running to acquire Mark Prior from the Cubs.

 

The word last night was that the Padres' conversations with the Cubs had turned sour, making a move to San Diego less likely. It's unclear whether the Cubs and Prior have had any contract discussions lately.

Source: MLB.com

[VanceJergins]

Mark Prior-S-Cubs Dec. 5 - 8:19 pm et

 

The Reds, Padres, Phillies and Rangers are all reportedly in the running to acquire Mark Prior from the Cubs.

 

The word last night was that the Padres' conversations with the Cubs had turned sour, making a move to San Diego less likely. It's unclear whether the Cubs and Prior have had any contract discussions lately.

Source: MLB.com

 

Does Dusty want to finish the job?

[Post Count Padder]

Mark Prior-S-Cubs Dec. 5 - 8:19 pm et

 

The Reds, Padres, Phillies and Rangers are all reportedly in the running to acquire Mark Prior from the Cubs.

 

The word last night was that the Padres' conversations with the Cubs had turned sour, making a move to San Diego less likely. It's unclear whether the Cubs and Prior have had any contract discussions lately.

Source: MLB.com

 

Does Dusty want to finish the job?

Finish what he began. He figures by the time Prior is back he'd have already ruined Harang and Bailey's arms and needs someone else.

[Sammy Sofa]

I wonder what Prior would do if he gets traded to the Reds. There's no way he just takes that quietly.

 

It would be lame of the Cubs to trade him back to Dusty's clutches.

[Clem Fandango]

The Chicago Tribune says Mark Prior is not expected to agree to the Cubs' proposal of a one-year deal with an option for 2009.

 

It also indicates that the Cubs don't want to go to arbitration with him when he's unlikely to be back until June at the earliest. If that's the case, then it's good bet he'll be sent to the Padres or another team for a couple of lesser prospects before the Dec. 12 non-tender deadline.

[Roast]

The Chicago Tribune says Mark Prior is not expected to agree to the Cubs' proposal of a one-year deal with an option for 2009.

 

It also indicates that the Cubs don't want to go to arbitration with him when he's unlikely to be back until June at the earliest. If that's the case, then it's good bet he'll be sent to the Padres or another team for a couple of lesser prospects before the Dec. 12 non-tender deadline.

 

:(

 

Damn.

[USSoccer]

The Chicago Tribune says Mark Prior is not expected to agree to the Cubs' proposal of a one-year deal with an option for 2009.

 

It also indicates that the Cubs don't want to go to arbitration with him when he's unlikely to be back until June at the earliest. If that's the case, then it's good bet he'll be sent to the Padres or another team for a couple of lesser prospects before the Dec. 12 non-tender deadline.

 

:(

 

Damn.

 

I still think going to arb and buying another year to work this out is the way to go.

[Mephistopheles]

I dont know why the Cubs don't offer him a 1 year deal with a team option that becomes a mutual option if he reaches certain incentives. It would be a win-win situation for both parties. The Cubs don't want to pay for a year of rehabilitation and then see him off, if that happens they can exercise the option and he won't have a chance to go anywhere. Prior does not want to agree to a small deal in case he becomes awesome at the end of the season, and if he is awesome then he can decline his option and be an FA because he has that right. The Cubs will be happy because that means he was pitching this season.

[E.J.]

I dont know why the Cubs don't offer him a 1 year deal with a team option that becomes a mutual option if he reaches certain incentives. It would be a win-win situation for both parties. The Cubs don't want to pay for a year of rehabilitation and then see him off, if that happens they can exercise the option and he won't have a chance to go anywhere. Prior does not want to agree to a small deal in case he becomes awesome at the end of the season, and if he is awesome then he can decline his option and be an FA because he has that right. The Cubs will be happy because that means he was pitching this season.

 

How do you know they didn't offer him that?

 

It just seems like Prior is ready to move on. It's time to let him go.

[Mephistopheles]

because i know everything, duh

[Sarcastic]

The Chicago Tribune says Mark Prior is not expected to agree to the Cubs' proposal of a one-year deal with an option for 2009.

 

It also indicates that the Cubs don't want to go to arbitration with him when he's unlikely to be back until June at the earliest. If that's the case, then it's good bet he'll be sent to the Padres or another team for a couple of lesser prospects before the Dec. 12 non-tender deadline.

 

:(

 

Damn.

 

This stuff was all unattributed speculation from Paul Sullivan. I'd love to here where he got the "June at the earliest" bit. I haven't heard one piece of reliable information on Prior's rehab for weeks.

[Backtobanks]

The Chicago Tribune says Mark Prior is not expected to agree to the Cubs' proposal of a one-year deal with an option for 2009.

 

It also indicates that the Cubs don't want to go to arbitration with him when he's unlikely to be back until June at the earliest. If that's the case, then it's good bet he'll be sent to the Padres or another team for a couple of lesser prospects before the Dec. 12 non-tender deadline.

 

I don't know why any team would trade anything for him since it looks like the Cubs are going to non-tender him and they can get Prior without giving up anything. Am I missing something?

[NCCubFan]

The Chicago Tribune says Mark Prior is not expected to agree to the Cubs' proposal of a one-year deal with an option for 2009.

 

It also indicates that the Cubs don't want to go to arbitration with him when he's unlikely to be back until June at the earliest. If that's the case, then it's good bet he'll be sent to the Padres or another team for a couple of lesser prospects before the Dec. 12 non-tender deadline.

 

:(

 

Damn.

 

This stuff was all unattributed speculation from Paul Sullivan. I'd love to here where he got the "June at the earliest" bit. I haven't heard one piece of reliable information on Prior's rehab for weeks.

I wonder the same thing. That would mean he'd be out for longer than a year after the surgery, and I don't think recovery from shoulder surgery takes longer than a year.

[Rob]

I dont know why the Cubs don't offer him a 1 year deal with a team option that becomes a mutual option if he reaches certain incentives. It would be a win-win situation for both parties. The Cubs don't want to pay for a year of rehabilitation and then see him off, if that happens they can exercise the option and he won't have a chance to go anywhere. Prior does not want to agree to a small deal in case he becomes awesome at the end of the season, and if he is awesome then he can decline his option and be an FA because he has that right. The Cubs will be happy because that means he was pitching this season.

 

The problem is that Prior, injuries and everything, could get a better deal than what the one-year team option would be even if he sat out the entire year and didn't pitch once. Some team out there would be willing to pay for another year of rehab with a team option, which guarantees him a few mil more and gets him the hell out of chicago... which seems to be his priority.

[E.J.]

The Chicago Tribune says Mark Prior is not expected to agree to the Cubs' proposal of a one-year deal with an option for 2009.

 

It also indicates that the Cubs don't want to go to arbitration with him when he's unlikely to be back until June at the earliest. If that's the case, then it's good bet he'll be sent to the Padres or another team for a couple of lesser prospects before the Dec. 12 non-tender deadline.

 

:(

 

Damn.

 

This stuff was all unattributed speculation from Paul Sullivan. I'd love to here where he got the "June at the earliest" bit. I haven't heard one piece of reliable information on Prior's rehab for weeks.

I wonder the same thing. That would mean he'd be out for longer than a year after the surgery, and I don't think recovery from shoulder surgery takes longer than a year.

 

shoulder surgery seems to be much tougher to come back from than elbow surgery. Just ask Wade Miller.

[CubColtPacer]

The Chicago Tribune says Mark Prior is not expected to agree to the Cubs' proposal of a one-year deal with an option for 2009.

 

It also indicates that the Cubs don't want to go to arbitration with him when he's unlikely to be back until June at the earliest. If that's the case, then it's good bet he'll be sent to the Padres or another team for a couple of lesser prospects before the Dec. 12 non-tender deadline.

 

:(

 

Damn.

 

This stuff was all unattributed speculation from Paul Sullivan. I'd love to here where he got the "June at the earliest" bit. I haven't heard one piece of reliable information on Prior's rehab for weeks.

I wonder the same thing. That would mean he'd be out for longer than a year after the surgery, and I don't think recovery from shoulder surgery takes longer than a year.

 

Jayson Stark said a week or two ago that Prior hadn't started throwing off a mound yet and that the Cubs would "love to have him back by May" which makes the June or later date seem very reasonable.

[HoopsCubs]

because i know everything, duh

 

You do? First I'm hearing about it.

[HoopsCubs]

I dont know why the Cubs don't offer him a 1 year deal with a team option that becomes a mutual option if he reaches certain incentives. It would be a win-win situation for both parties. The Cubs don't want to pay for a year of rehabilitation and then see him off, if that happens they can exercise the option and he won't have a chance to go anywhere. Prior does not want to agree to a small deal in case he becomes awesome at the end of the season, and if he is awesome then he can decline his option and be an FA because he has that right. The Cubs will be happy because that means he was pitching this season.

 

The problem is that Prior, injuries and everything, could get a better deal than what the one-year team option would be even if he sat out the entire year and didn't pitch once. Some team out there would be willing to pay for another year of rehab with a team option, which guarantees him a few mil more and gets him the hell out of chicago... which seems to be his priority.

 

And that is the point. Bruce Levine reiterated this very point on ESPN AM 1000's hot stove baseball show this morning: Mark Prior wants nothing to do with the Cubs anymore. He and his agent will not let the Cubs buy out his first year of free agency with a team option, mutual option or vesting option. It has very little to do with money. It has everything to do with Prior's wanting out of the organization.

 

The Cubs really only have 2 choices left:

 

- Pay him $2.8M, and assuming he's pitching by mid-June, hope to get a half dozen good starts out of him, so he can be traded on July 31 for something more than a bag of balls.

- Non-tender him today and save the $2.8M for something else.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Second option sounds good to me.

[E.J.]

See, everyone assumes that the Cubs aren't doing everything they can to bring Prior back, but it's become quite evident that Prior wants out, and if that's the case it's time to just move on.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

Back to Swisher, I just cant believe Beane would trade him. He would be perfect for this team. He isnt a terrible OF either. I would trade Hill for him.

[JeffH]

From an ESPN chat:

 

Bawb (Fairview, UT): Who is the biggest name that we will see non-tendered this year?

 

Jerry Crasnick: Bawb,

 

I'm not sure if all these guys will be non-tendered, but some of the names I'm hearing are Morgan Ensberg, Kevin Mench, Craig Monroe, Miguel Olivo, Ben Broussard and Horacio Ramirez. Several other guys -- like Xavier Nady and Mark Prior -- have been mentioned in speculation. But they're going to be offered contracts.

[UMFan83]

So D-Day is tomorrow. What scenarios can occur regarding Prior's tenure with the Cubs after tomorrow?

 

My understanding is:

A) Signs new contract with the Cubs

B) Is traded

C) Is non-tendered

 

Will one of these 3 things happen tomorrow?

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I think he'll be tendered and then traded after that.