College Football - BCS Bowls

[AI]

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how is this hit not a personal foul? since when can you leave your feet to tackle the QB?

You aren't seriously asking that question, are you?

[fiver]

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how is this hit not a personal foul? since when can you leave your feet to tackle the QB?

You aren't seriously asking that question, are you?

 

As far as I know, defensive players can leave their feet or even crawl when trying to sack the QB if there isn't helmet to helmet contact, a facemask infraction, or such...

[CubinNY]

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That old fart in the middle is a dick in person. He's at all the OSU games and does some stupid dance that everyone cheers.

[Soul]

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how is this hit not a personal foul? since when can you leave your feet to tackle the QB?

You aren't seriously asking that question, are you?

 

As far as I know, defensive players can leave their feet or even crawl when trying to sack the QB if there isn't helmet to helmet contact, a facemask infraction, or such...

 

It's borderline. The bicep is hitting the head, but I don't think it was an intentional blow to the head. I'm OK with the no call there.

 

It's not like it really makes any difference. OSU just got beat, plain and simple. They started off good, but couldn't sustain the effort.

[SouthSideRyan]

My score prediction was 38-21 LSU. I nearly got that down.

 

I'm so glad tOSU lost. I'm an Illini fan and all, but I have no affiliation to the Big 10. I don't know how some of you could actually pull for Ohio State or Michigan in a game of this magnitude. But more power to you guys.

 

Like LSU is all sunshine lollipops and rainbows?

[SouthSideRyan]

So Ohio State gets rewarded for playing no one out of conference, please...someone in the Big 10 stop them from going to this game again.

 

You know they played Texas last year. And play I wanna say USC next year.

[SouthSideRyan]

IMO..WV would beat LSU or Georgia but would lose to USC due to the matchups but if they did have a plus 1 it would be USC or Georgia going. I really dislike the politics that goes with College football.

 

Politics my ass. If your conference champ didn't play like gutless choking dogs against a horrible Pitt team they woulda gotten the chance to smoke OSU. They didn't.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Final AP Poll

 

1. LSU (60) 12-2 1,620

2. Georgia (3) 11-2 1,515

3. USC (1) 11-2 1,500

4. Missouri 12-2 1,347

5. Ohio State 11-2 1,346

6. West Virginia 11-2 1,342

7. Kansas (1) 12-1 1,303

8. Oklahoma 11-3 1,139

9. Virginia Tech 11-3 1,096

10. Texas 10-3 962

10. Boston College 11-3 962

12. Tennessee 10-4 904

13. Florida 9-4 685

14. Brigham Young 11-2 654

15. Auburn 9-4 648

16. Arizona State 10-3 587

17. Cincinnati 10-3 566

18. Michigan 9-4 508

19. Hawaii 12-1 460

20. Illinois 9-4 443

21. Clemson 9-4 353

22. Texas Tech 9-4 308

23. Oregon 9-4 253

24. Wisconsin 9-4 202

25. Oregon State 9-4 110

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Final Coaches Poll

 

USA Today Coaches Poll

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1. LSU (60) 12-2 1500 2

2. USC 11-2 1380 6

3. Georgia 11-2 1370 4

4. Ohio State 11-2 1287 1

5. Missouri 12-2 1241 7

6. West Virginia 11-2 1239 9

7. Kansas 12-1 1217 8

8. Oklahoma 11-3 1016 3

9. Virginia Tech 11-3 979 5

10. Texas 10-3 924 17

11. Boston College 11-3 898 14

12. Tennessee 10-4 826 18

13. Arizona State 10-3 635 11

14. Auburn 9-4 624 21

14. Brigham Young 11-2 624 19

16. Florida 9-4 567 12

17. Hawaii 12-1 427 10

18. Illinois 9-4 416 13

19. Michigan 9-4 413 NR

20. Cincinnati 10-3 376 23

21. Wisconsin 9-4 333 15

22. Clemson 9-4 319 16

23. Texas Tech 9-4 242 NR

24. Oregon 9-4 192 NR

25. Penn State

[CuseCubFan69]

So Ohio State gets rewarded for playing no one out of conference, please...someone in the Big 10 stop them from going to this game again.

 

You know they played Texas last year. And play I wanna say USC next year.

 

And that effected 2007, how?

[SouthSideRyan]

So Ohio State gets rewarded for playing no one out of conference, please...someone in the Big 10 stop them from going to this game again.

 

You know they played Texas last year. And play I wanna say USC next year.

 

And that effected 2007, how?

 

Sure sounds like you're implying OSU never plays anyone out of conference.

[CuseCubFan69]

IMO..WV would beat LSU or Georgia but would lose to USC due to the matchups but if they did have a plus 1 it would be USC or Georgia going. I really dislike the politics that goes with College football.

 

Politics my ass. If your conference champ didn't play like gutless choking dogs against a horrible Pitt team they woulda gotten the chance to smoke OSU. They didn't.

 

 

They had the same record as LSU and all the other 2 loss teams. Never will a BE team that has the same record as one of the Big 3 (Big 10/12 and SEC plus ND/USC) get a chance to play in the BCS Championship game. Look at the rankings...WV killed OU but yet they are behind Missouri who beat that ever so tough Arkansas team. Again, the politics of this make it suck.

[CuseCubFan69]

So Ohio State gets rewarded for playing no one out of conference, please...someone in the Big 10 stop them from going to this game again.

 

You know they played Texas last year. And play I wanna say USC next year.

 

And that effected 2007, how?

 

Sure sounds like you're implying OSU never plays anyone out of conference.

 

They didn't in 2007 and will play 1 BCS team in 2008 out of conference. After USC kills them they will still win the Big 10 and get a chance to play in the BCS big game and prove they don't belong.

[The Voice of Reason]

So Ohio State gets rewarded for playing no one out of conference, please...someone in the Big 10 stop them from going to this game again.

 

You know they played Texas last year. And play I wanna say USC next year.

 

And that effected 2007, how?

 

Sure sounds like you're implying OSU never plays anyone out of conference.

 

No, that would be Iowa.

 

NIU (2 - 10), Syracuse (2 - 10), Iowa State (3 -9) and mighty Western Michigan (5 - 7).

[Andy]

IMO..WV would beat LSU or Georgia but would lose to USC due to the matchups but if they did have a plus 1 it would be USC or Georgia going. I really dislike the politics that goes with College football.

 

Politics my ass. If your conference champ didn't play like gutless choking dogs against a horrible Pitt team they woulda gotten the chance to smoke OSU. They didn't.

I enjoyed this part more than I should have.

[SouthSideRyan]

IMO..WV would beat LSU or Georgia but would lose to USC due to the matchups but if they did have a plus 1 it would be USC or Georgia going. I really dislike the politics that goes with College football.

 

Politics my ass. If your conference champ didn't play like gutless choking dogs against a horrible Pitt team they woulda gotten the chance to smoke OSU. They didn't.

 

 

They had the same record as LSU and all the other 2 loss teams. Never will a BE team that has the same record as one of the Big 3 (Big 10/12 and SEC plus ND/USC) get a chance to play in the BCS Championship game. Look at the rankings...WV killed OU but yet they are behind Missouri who beat that ever so tough Arkansas team. Again, the politics of this make it suck.

 

If West Virginia lost to a non-horrible team 5 weeks earlier, they'd probably be in the title game. They lost to a horrible team on the last week of the season. You didn't see any Mizzou fans around here thinking they should have been in the title game. They lost in the last week to a much better team than Pitt. Like it or not, teams are rewarded/penalized for how they finish. West Virginia finished about as poor as you could to a regular season, and therefore were knocked out of the title game.

 

I can't imagine how you could possibly be making this argument when heading into the last week of the season West Virginia was one of 5 1 loss or less teams and they were set for the national title game.

[SouthSideRyan]

IMO..WV would beat LSU or Georgia but would lose to USC due to the matchups but if they did have a plus 1 it would be USC or Georgia going. I really dislike the politics that goes with College football.

 

Politics my ass. If your conference champ didn't play like gutless choking dogs against a horrible Pitt team they woulda gotten the chance to smoke OSU. They didn't.

I enjoyed this part more than I should have.

 

I enjoyed my mastery of the english language.

[OleMissCub]

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That old fart in the middle is a dick in person. He's at all the OSU games and does some stupid dance that everyone cheers.

 

I've never cried due to a sporting event in my life. I came close in 2003, but I was able to channel that into wall punching anger.

[Andy]

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That old fart in the middle is a dick in person. He's at all the OSU games and does some stupid dance that everyone cheers.

 

I've never cried due to a sporting event in my life. I came close in 2003, but I was able to channel that into wall punching anger.

I cried during one when I was 11 but I don't think that counts...I mean, I was 11.

[AI]

I've never cried due to a sporting event in my life. I came close in 2003, but I was able to channel that into wall punching anger.

I don't want to divert the topic, but I never understood the "punch something inanimate when I'm angry" thing. Its got to hurt.

[CuseCubFan69]

IMO..WV would beat LSU or Georgia but would lose to USC due to the matchups but if they did have a plus 1 it would be USC or Georgia going. I really dislike the politics that goes with College football.

 

Politics my ass. If your conference champ didn't play like gutless choking dogs against a horrible Pitt team they woulda gotten the chance to smoke OSU. They didn't.

 

 

They had the same record as LSU and all the other 2 loss teams. Never will a BE team that has the same record as one of the Big 3 (Big 10/12 and SEC plus ND/USC) get a chance to play in the BCS Championship game. Look at the rankings...WV killed OU but yet they are behind Missouri who beat that ever so tough Arkansas team. Again, the politics of this make it suck.

 

If West Virginia lost to a non-horrible team 5 weeks earlier, they'd probably be in the title game. They lost to a horrible team on the last week of the season. You didn't see any Mizzou fans around here thinking they should have been in the title game. They lost in the last week to a much better team than Pitt. Like it or not, teams are rewarded/penalized for how they finish. West Virginia finished about as poor as you could to a regular season, and therefore were knocked out of the title game.

 

I can't imagine how you could possibly be making this argument when heading into the last week of the season West Virginia was one of 5 1 loss or less teams and they were set for the national title game.

 

Mizzou didn't win their conference. The season should be looked at as a whole and not just the last game as they always drop after a loss when it comes to the final poll before the Bowls. These assumptions of who is good by coaches who don't even watch the games is ridicules and that's all this is based on as the computers matter very little.

[OleMissCub]

I've never cried due to a sporting event in my life. I came close in 2003, but I was able to channel that into wall punching anger.

I cried during one when I was 11 but I don't think that counts...I mean, I was 11.

 

Well, I take that back. I teared up a little bit when my knee exploded into a million pieces. That was the closest I've ever come to crying from pain as an adult. You guys who have never injured your knees have NO idea of the pain. Sweet Mohammed, it's terrible.

[OleMissCub]

I've never cried due to a sporting event in my life. I came close in 2003, but I was able to channel that into wall punching anger.

I don't want to divert the topic, but I never understood the "punch something inanimate when I'm angry" thing. Its got to hurt.

 

Must have been the steroids I was taking at the time. :P

[snoodmonger]

I'm not gonna complain too much because honestly, a final ranking of 7 is more than I could have ever asked for, but for the only one-loss BCS conference team to be ranked 7 is silly. It's probably karma for us getting the Orange Bowl, which I'll take any day. But we should be top 5, IMO. You can make an argument for #2. At the least, we should be ahead of tOSU, who has a very similar resume but one more loss.

[wekse]

here is a blog the same guy that i was disgusted with yesterday posted this morning explaining the sec's dominance over the big 10....enjoy.

 

I got several responses to my post about the SEC getting it done again against the Big10.

 

Looks like I was right!

 

Now, for those of you that need further clarification about why the SEC is hands down the best conference here you go....

 

Lets first look at bowl apperances shall we.

SEC - 361 bowl appearances and 70 more wins than the Big10

Big10 - 234

 

National Championships

SEC - 13

Big10 - 12

(This is a bit scewed because of schools and thier conferences changing over the course of the years...BUT, the SEC has the most BCS national championships also)

 

Bowl Rankings (How many times a conference has been in the top 25 poll)

SEC - Has 7 of the top 20 teams

Big 10 - Has 3 of the top 20 teams

 

All Time Wins

Now, This stat I wasn't able to come up with an exact number but here is what I did find.

The SEC has 5 teams in the top 15 of all time wins and 10 teams in the top 50.

The Big10 has 3 teams in the top 15 and 9 in the top 50. Of course Michigan is number 1 but hell, they've been playing football longer than any school in the country. 126 years to be exact!

 

Alumni in the NFL

This is based on the starting rosters from this years NFL teams (2007)

1st place - 263 former SEC football players on NFL rosters.

3rd place - Big Ten with 234 players.

 

Attendance (Yes, I said attendance)

The SEC has led the nation in football attendance 9 straight years – averaging 75,706 fans per game in 2006! Amazing. Really, that fact alone says it all.

 

And finally, Recruiting.

As of right now on Rivals.com in the top 25 recruiting classes in the nation we have....

5 SEC schools and they are ALL in the top 15.

3 for the big 10.

 

Enjoy the debate folks...it's a never ending one!