The NBA thread

[Magnetic Curses]

bulls get revenge on the cavs tonight. noah with 13 pts 20 boards. nice job.

[JoshiQ]

That was a pretty fun game. Thank goodness that James sat out as much as he did.

[Derwood]

Hinrich with 6 points on 2 for 12 shooting. please, please trade this chump

[Magnetic Curses]

Hinrich with 6 points on 2 for 12 shooting. please, please trade this chump

 

he had a couple of good stops on lebron, though.

[JoshiQ]

Hinrich with 6 points on 2 for 12 shooting. please, please trade this chump

 

I don't know what to think. I love him for what he did for KU, but he just doesn't look that good up in the NBA.

[Flames24Rulz]

Hinrich with 6 points on 2 for 12 shooting. please, please trade this chump

 

I don't know what to think. I love him for what he did for KU, but he just doesn't look that good up in the NBA.

 

Because he's not.

 

I really like what I see from a Gordon-Hughes backcourt.

[Guest]

Hinrich with 6 points on 2 for 12 shooting. please, please trade this chump

 

I don't know what to think. I love him for what he did for KU, but he just doesn't look that good up in the NBA.

 

Because he's not.

 

I really like what I see from a Gordon-Hughes backcourt.

 

Yeah, I'm really digging the 33% shooting from Gordon since Hughes showed up.

[RedFlash]

Hinrich with 6 points on 2 for 12 shooting. please, please trade this chump

 

I don't know what to think. I love him for what he did for KU, but he just doesn't look that good up in the NBA.

 

Because he's not.

 

I really like what I see from a Gordon-Hughes backcourt.

 

I don't.

 

Hughes/Gordon=Hinrich/Gordon....same problems different personnel. The sooner Gordon, the better the Bulls will be.

[Guest]

I can't wait for either Dallas or Phoenix (hopefully Dallas) to miss the playoffs this year. It's going to be hilarious.

[rawaction]

Man, the Bulls missed a couple "sell high" chances on some players. Gordon, Hinrich, and all the Knicks draft picks come to mind. That combined with the "buy high" move of Wallace, has set this team back. It was clear the best they could be with the group that played the last few seasons, was "good enough" in the East. Maybe a couple Eastern Finals, maybe a NBA finals appearance somewhere in there.

[Magnetic Curses]

Man, the Bulls missed a couple "sell high" chances on some players. Gordon, Hinrich, and all the Knicks draft picks come to mind. That combined with the "buy high" move of Wallace, has set this team back. It was clear the best they could be with the group that played the last few seasons, was "good enough" in the East. Maybe a couple Eastern Finals, maybe a NBA finals appearance somewhere in there.

 

it's because paxson enjoys the smell of his own flatulence.

[RedFlash]

Man, the Bulls missed a couple "sell high" chances on some players. Gordon, Hinrich, and all the Knicks draft picks come to mind. That combined with the "buy high" move of Wallace, has set this team back. It was clear the best they could be with the group that played the last few seasons, was "good enough" in the East. Maybe a couple Eastern Finals, maybe a NBA finals appearance somewhere in there.

 

It not so much he missed on "selling high" on the Knicks picks, it just think his picks were questionable then, and even moreso today. You pass on both LMA and Roy to take Thomas. Very questionable.

[Derwood]

Man, the Bulls missed a couple "sell high" chances on some players. Gordon, Hinrich, and all the Knicks draft picks come to mind. That combined with the "buy high" move of Wallace, has set this team back. It was clear the best they could be with the group that played the last few seasons, was "good enough" in the East. Maybe a couple Eastern Finals, maybe a NBA finals appearance somewhere in there.

 

It not so much he missed on "selling high" on the Knicks picks, it just think his picks were questionable then, and even moreso today. You pass on both LMA and Roy to take Thomas. Very questionable.

 

technically, he picked LMA and then traded him for Thomas

[Soul]

Man, the Bulls missed a couple "sell high" chances on some players. Gordon, Hinrich, and all the Knicks draft picks come to mind. That combined with the "buy high" move of Wallace, has set this team back. It was clear the best they could be with the group that played the last few seasons, was "good enough" in the East. Maybe a couple Eastern Finals, maybe a NBA finals appearance somewhere in there.

 

It not so much he missed on "selling high" on the Knicks picks, it just think his picks were questionable then, and even moreso today. You pass on both LMA and Roy to take Thomas. Very questionable.

 

technically, he picked LMA and then traded him for Thomas

 

Which makes it even worse.

[RedFlash]

Man, the Bulls missed a couple "sell high" chances on some players. Gordon, Hinrich, and all the Knicks draft picks come to mind. That combined with the "buy high" move of Wallace, has set this team back. It was clear the best they could be with the group that played the last few seasons, was "good enough" in the East. Maybe a couple Eastern Finals, maybe a NBA finals appearance somewhere in there.

 

It not so much he missed on "selling high" on the Knicks picks, it just think his picks were questionable then, and even moreso today. You pass on both LMA and Roy to take Thomas. Very questionable.

 

technically, he picked LMA and then traded him for Thomas

 

Which makes it even worse.

 

Yes it does.

[Flames24Rulz]

Hinrich with 6 points on 2 for 12 shooting. please, please trade this chump

 

I don't know what to think. I love him for what he did for KU, but he just doesn't look that good up in the NBA.

 

Because he's not.

 

I really like what I see from a Gordon-Hughes backcourt.

 

Yeah, I'm really digging the 33% shooting from Gordon since Hughes showed up.

 

I just have a lot more confidence in Gordon. Even when Gordon isn't playing good, he can still get to the line (somewhat) and still give you around 10 PPG on a bad night. Hinrich really can't do that. I've said it over and over again, the guy really hasn't improved since his rookie year.

 

We'll see what the organization does in the offseason, but I really don't think they're that high on Hinrich anymore.

[Guest]

The problem with playing Gordon and Hughes together is there just aren't enough basketballs for the both of them.

 

Kirk Hinrich has certainly improved since his rookie year. He's taken a significant step back this season from his second, third and fourth seasons in the NBA.

[Soul]

 

I've said it over and over again, the guy really hasn't improved since his rookie year.

 

 

Definitely. He peaked in college.

 

Actually, I think he's regressed in the NBA since maybe his 2nd year.

[illiniguy]

The problem with playing Gordon and Hughes together is there just aren't enough basketballs for the both of them.

 

Kirk Hinrich has certainly improved since his rookie year. He's taken a significant step back this season from his second, third and fourth seasons in the NBA.

Has he improved or has he just got more minutes and developed a rep, getting him more foul calls? He handles the ball a lot better than he did in college. But I think every other facet of his game has either regressed, or stayed the same.

[Guest]

The problem with playing Gordon and Hughes together is there just aren't enough basketballs for the both of them.

 

Kirk Hinrich has certainly improved since his rookie year. He's taken a significant step back this season from his second, third and fourth seasons in the NBA.

Has he improved or has he just got more minutes and developed a rep, getting him more foul calls? He handles the ball a lot better than he did in college. But I think every other facet of his game has either regressed, or stayed the same.

 

He averaged 35.6 minutes his rookie year which is also his career average so he hasn't gotten that many more minutes. He's added as many as 4.6 PPG more than his rookie year, dropped his TO/G by as much as 0.4 and has an increased his FG% by as much as .062%. In all 3 categories, he's still better this season than he was his rookie year. His APG has dropped steadily (but not too drastically) from his rookie year on. I wish I could get his PER numbers from before this season.

[illiniguy]

The problem with playing Gordon and Hughes together is there just aren't enough basketballs for the both of them.

 

Kirk Hinrich has certainly improved since his rookie year. He's taken a significant step back this season from his second, third and fourth seasons in the NBA.

Has he improved or has he just got more minutes and developed a rep, getting him more foul calls? He handles the ball a lot better than he did in college. But I think every other facet of his game has either regressed, or stayed the same.

 

He averaged 35.6 minutes his rookie year which is also his career average so he hasn't gotten that many more minutes. He's added as many as 4.6 PPG more than his rookie year, dropped his TO/G by as much as 0.4 and has an increased his FG% by as much as .62%. In all 3 categories, he's still better this season than he was his rookie year. His APG has dropped steadily (but not too drastically) from his rookie year on. I wish I could get his PER numbers from before this season.

Well his assists should go down this year. We have no inside scorer. Gordon has slumped. Deng has missed a lot of time. I guess the main thing that hurts Hinrich is the other guys in the draft being so good. Sucks we got the pick we did that year.

[Guest]

The problem with playing Gordon and Hughes together is there just aren't enough basketballs for the both of them.

 

Kirk Hinrich has certainly improved since his rookie year. He's taken a significant step back this season from his second, third and fourth seasons in the NBA.

Has he improved or has he just got more minutes and developed a rep, getting him more foul calls? He handles the ball a lot better than he did in college. But I think every other facet of his game has either regressed, or stayed the same.

 

He averaged 35.6 minutes his rookie year which is also his career average so he hasn't gotten that many more minutes. He's added as many as 4.6 PPG more than his rookie year, dropped his TO/G by as much as 0.4 and has an increased his FG% by as much as .62%. In all 3 categories, he's still better this season than he was his rookie year. His APG has dropped steadily (but not too drastically) from his rookie year on. I wish I could get his PER numbers from before this season.

Well his assists should go down this year. We have no inside scorer. Gordon has slumped. Deng has missed a lot of time. I guess the main thing that hurts Hinrich is the other guys in the draft being so good. Sucks we got the pick we did that year.

 

He's still having his worst year since his rookie year. Of course so are Gordon and Deng.

 

In terms of that draft, it did suck picking that low. At least it wasn't a case of Roy or Aldrige vs. Thomas. Hinrich was the best pick that year (ignoring trading possibilites, of course).

[illiniguy]

The problem with playing Gordon and Hughes together is there just aren't enough basketballs for the both of them.

 

Kirk Hinrich has certainly improved since his rookie year. He's taken a significant step back this season from his second, third and fourth seasons in the NBA.

Has he improved or has he just got more minutes and developed a rep, getting him more foul calls? He handles the ball a lot better than he did in college. But I think every other facet of his game has either regressed, or stayed the same.

 

He averaged 35.6 minutes his rookie year which is also his career average so he hasn't gotten that many more minutes. He's added as many as 4.6 PPG more than his rookie year, dropped his TO/G by as much as 0.4 and has an increased his FG% by as much as .62%. In all 3 categories, he's still better this season than he was his rookie year. His APG has dropped steadily (but not too drastically) from his rookie year on. I wish I could get his PER numbers from before this season.

Well his assists should go down this year. We have no inside scorer. Gordon has slumped. Deng has missed a lot of time. I guess the main thing that hurts Hinrich is the other guys in the draft being so good. Sucks we got the pick we did that year.

 

He's still having his worst year since his rookie year. Of course so are Gordon and Deng.

 

In terms of that draft, it did suck picking that low. At least it wasn't a case of Roy or Aldrige vs. Thomas. Hinrich was the best pick that year (ignoring trading possibilites, of course).

At that time yeah. But I sure would rather have David West or Josh Howard now.

[Guest]

Illiniguy, what do you think about Brook Lopez? Top 5 pick, yeah?

[YearofDaCubs]

bulls get revenge on the cavs tonight. noah with 13 pts 20 boards. nice job.

Not surprising Noah had his best game against Ben Wallace. :rotfl: