The NBA thread

[Derwood]

or they'll start slow and trade wade

[Guest]

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If they are going to try to do something like this, I think it might be better if it's baseball-style where the kid has the choice of going pro out of HS or going to college but having to stay the minimum number of years in college.

[Exile on Waveland]

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If they are going to try to do something like this, I think it might be better if it's baseball-style where the kid has the choice of going pro out of HS or going to college but having to stay the minimum number of years in college.

 

The baseball-style approach has always been my preference for basketball, as well. The one-year rule is a sham perpetuated by the NBA upon college basketball. It makes a mockery of college athletics. If a player is prepared to jump straight from high school, let him. If a player goes to college, he should go to college as a student-athlete (and I'm not naive about this sort of thing, I'm actually more cynical than most. The NCAA just shouldn't sanction non student-athletes is all.).

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If they are going to try to do something like this, I think it might be better if it's baseball-style where the kid has the choice of going pro out of HS or going to college but having to stay the minimum number of years in college.

 

The baseball-style approach has always been my preference for basketball, as well. The one-year rule is a sham perpetuated by the NBA upon college basketball. It makes a mockery of college athletics. If a player is prepared to jump straight from high school, let him. If a player goes to college, he should go to college as a student-athlete (and I'm not naive about this sort of thing, I'm actually more cynical than most. The NCAA just shouldn't sanction non student-athletes is all.).

 

I completely agree. The one year rule is basically useless. What is the point of making a kid spend one year is college? Is he really going to benefit from taking a few freshmen intro classes? I doubt it. I've been talking about a baseball style rule for a while now. If a kid wants to go out of HS, let him. But if he decides to step foot on a college campus, he's got to stay for a couple years. But one year is a waste.

[Derwood]

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If they are going to try to do something like this, I think it might be better if it's baseball-style where the kid has the choice of going pro out of HS or going to college but having to stay the minimum number of years in college.

 

The baseball-style approach has always been my preference for basketball, as well. The one-year rule is a sham perpetuated by the NBA upon college basketball. It makes a mockery of college athletics. If a player is prepared to jump straight from high school, let him. If a player goes to college, he should go to college as a student-athlete (and I'm not naive about this sort of thing, I'm actually more cynical than most. The NCAA just shouldn't sanction non student-athletes is all.).

 

I completely agree. The one year rule is basically useless. What is the point of making a kid spend one year is college? Is he really going to benefit from taking a few freshmen intro classes? I doubt it. I've been talking about a baseball style rule for a while now. If a kid wants to go out of HS, let him. But if he decides to step foot on a college campus, he's got to stay for a couple years. But one year is a waste.

 

in the NBA, though, I think that would drive more kids to jump from high school. in other words, they're only going to college at all because they have to. give eric gordon or whoever the option not to and they won't.

 

how much would college basketball have suffered from not having Gordon, Mayo, Beasley, etc. this year?

[Guest]

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If they are going to try to do something like this, I think it might be better if it's baseball-style where the kid has the choice of going pro out of HS or going to college but having to stay the minimum number of years in college.

 

The baseball-style approach has always been my preference for basketball, as well. The one-year rule is a sham perpetuated by the NBA upon college basketball. It makes a mockery of college athletics. If a player is prepared to jump straight from high school, let him. If a player goes to college, he should go to college as a student-athlete (and I'm not naive about this sort of thing, I'm actually more cynical than most. The NCAA just shouldn't sanction non student-athletes is all.).

 

I completely agree. The one year rule is basically useless. What is the point of making a kid spend one year is college? Is he really going to benefit from taking a few freshmen intro classes? I doubt it. I've been talking about a baseball style rule for a while now. If a kid wants to go out of HS, let him. But if he decides to step foot on a college campus, he's got to stay for a couple years. But one year is a waste.

 

in the NBA, though, I think that would drive more kids to jump from high school. in other words, they're only going to college at all because they have to. give eric gordon or whoever the option not to and they won't.

 

how much would college basketball have suffered from not having Gordon, Mayo, Beasley, etc. this year?

 

Maybe it would suffer a little bit this year if those guys all went pro. But you can't look at it like that. You have to look at the long term picture. There are a lot of guys who wouldn't go to the pros right out of high school but go to college, have a great freshman year and bolt then. Now they would have to stay. So, yeah, you would lose some good players who would jump right away but there would be quality guys who would have to stay for a couple years. Think about how good Syracuse would have been if Carmelo Anthony had to stay for three years. In the long run, I really don't think it would make much of a difference and I don't think it would hurt college basketball in the least.

[Warpticon]

The one year rule is, was, and always will be skull-shatteringly stupid.

[Derwood]

Greg Oden is a dumbass

[illiniguy]

The one year rule is, was, and always will be skull-shatteringly stupid.

It maybe stupid, but I selfishly love it. I loved how much better it makes the college game if even for a year. Look at what it did for KState this year. For one year they were relevant. I do agree though I wish it were a three year rule. But, still the one year rule is ok with me.

[CubColtPacer]

I'm quite convinced that an option between leaving directly out of high school/having to stay in college for 3 years would be disasterous for both college basketball and the kids.

 

Many more kids would come out that under the old rules would have passed down the opportunity to come out, but had never planned on staying more than a year or two in school. Many more kids would not be ready for the NBA and flame out. Baseball does well with this rule because most kids know they aren't going to be ready before 21 for the pros, and so they choose whether to go to school or not on other factors. That's simply not the case in basketball.

 

At the same time, college basketball would lose all those potential good players and the year or two they put in, along with the great players that are forced to stay after high school now.

[Guest]

Frankly, I don't care if they make it the same as baseball has it. But like Warp said, making kids go to school for one year is useless. They're not going to get anything out of the education and are only going to be wasting space in the class room. If you want to make kids go to school and wait on the NBA, make it at least two years. If you want to put in an option for them to skip college altogether, fine. But if they're going to go to school, make them stay for more than a year. It's pointless not to.

[Magnetic Curses]

Frankly, I don't care if they make it the same as baseball has it. But like Warp said, making kids go to school for one year is useless. They're not going to get anything out of the education and are only going to be wasting space in the class room. If you want to make kids go to school and wait on the NBA, make it at least two years. If you want to put in an option for them to skip college altogether, fine. But if they're going to go to school, make them stay for more than a year. It's pointless not to.

 

i think that's probably the next step.

[Derwood]

David Stern has publicly stated that he wants to increase the age limit in the next CBA, though he didn't mention an option to skip college

[Guest]

Kobe dropped 53 on Memphis tonight but the Lakers lost to Memphis. Wasn't exactly his fault - he went 19-37 while the rest of the team went 22-67. And to make matters worse, Derek Fisher has a partial tear of a tendon in his right foot but is going to play through it. This team is going to have what could have been a championship season completely derailed by injuries.

[Andy]

Bulls can go ahead and lose out now

[RedFlash]

That's why, I can't wait for their to be a "legit minor league" team for every NBA team. I mean, if given a choice of playing for Everytown USA in the NBDL or playing for a highly ranked D-1 school, where do you think raw kids like say....Tyrus Thomas would have choose, if this option was available two yrs ago?

 

So I like the if you go to school, you go for 2 yrs, minimum, or if you decide to go pro, you run the risk of playing in the minors, for "essentially minimum wage", rule.