College Basketball 2007-2008

[brinoch]

The officiating in the Big Ten is, frankly, awful. And that goes whether one is home, away, or on a neutral court. For every call that Illini fans are complaining about, I can point out one where Hoosier fans are complaining -- and vice versa.

[Exile on Waveland]

The officiating in the Big Ten is, frankly, awful. And that goes whether one is home, away, or on a neutral court. For every call that Illini fans are complaining about, I can point out one where Hoosier fans are complaining -- and vice versa.

 

The home team is favored heavily nearly every game in the Big Ten. Officiating in the Big Ten is awful, and has gotten worse.

[hawkeyecub]

and Iowa City. Just ask MSU last night.

 

Did you happen to see the game illiniguy? If you saw the box score I can understand that reaction. If you watched the game, I would wonder where you thought they got homered.

 

Even on the MSU board they weren't complaining about homer officiating which is rare after a loss. They got the ball into the paint about 4 times all night without travelling. About 1/3 of our free throws came in the last minute when they were trying to foul. Another 1/3 were them forcing Tate or Looby to the line when they got the ball down low because they can't make free throws. There were some bad calls to be sure, but the free throw disparity wasn't a result of that.

 

As far as Indiana bashing, they'll be in the Sweet 16 without a sweat and then it depends on matchups. They (like MSU) aren't looking very good now but they have the pieces. The more I see the more I think Wisconsin at least shares the Big Ten this year.

[SouthSideRyan]

It certainly won't happen, but with recent events, there's actually a nonzero possibility of a 9-10 seed winning the Big Ten tourney.

[Keener98]

IU certainly didn't play like a top 10 team today. I wouldn't write them off that easily though. Bassett saved their butt today, he wasn't even supposed to play. He has been battling bone chips in his ankle and needs surgery. Ratliff has been out for most of the year due to his own stupidity (literally).

 

I think if they can get everybody on the same page in the backcourt they can still be tough. It is a guards game these days, and DJ White can hold his own down low.

 

Do I think they are on the level of UNC, KU, Memphis? No way. But just because they played below potential today doesn't mean they will in March. It is still January.

 

We shall see.

Right, plus Sampson has a track record of having his teams play better in the postseason than they did in the regular season. Oh wait....

 

Is that the best you have? :wink:

 

I didn't predict anything. Just mentioned that its foolish to saw how IU will do 2 months from now based on one game in the mid January.

I honestly think you will win one game in the tournament. One. Oh and before you go there we won't make any tournament. None.

 

Before the season, you thought it was "absurd" that Gordon would make first team all Big Ten, and that Sampson would "kill" Gordon like he does all his talented players (despite not having really coached any). I don't think IU is a top-5 team, but they're better than they showed today. I thought today would be tough. Regardless, I'm not putting much faith in your predictions regarding IU.

 

Illinois once again proves a tough matchup for IU. I think it has a lot to do with Pruitt, who with his size matches up and basically neutralizes DJ White. Weber is also a very good coach.

 

Pruitt was a non factor the entire first half yet the Illini led by 4 at the half. Im sure that IU is better than they showed today, but I dont think they are so much better that they are a top 10-15 team in the nation. IU is very vulnerable.

[illiniguy]

IU certainly didn't play like a top 10 team today. I wouldn't write them off that easily though. Bassett saved their butt today, he wasn't even supposed to play. He has been battling bone chips in his ankle and needs surgery. Ratliff has been out for most of the year due to his own stupidity (literally).

 

I think if they can get everybody on the same page in the backcourt they can still be tough. It is a guards game these days, and DJ White can hold his own down low.

 

Do I think they are on the level of UNC, KU, Memphis? No way. But just because they played below potential today doesn't mean they will in March. It is still January.

 

We shall see.

Right, plus Sampson has a track record of having his teams play better in the postseason than they did in the regular season. Oh wait....

 

Is that the best you have? :wink:

 

I didn't predict anything. Just mentioned that its foolish to saw how IU will do 2 months from now based on one game in the mid January.

I honestly think you will win one game in the tournament. One. Oh and before you go there we won't make any tournament. None.

 

Before the season, you thought it was "absurd" that Gordon would make first team all Big Ten, and that Sampson would "kill" Gordon like he does all his talented players (despite not having really coached any). I don't think IU is a top-5 team, but they're better than they showed today. I thought today would be tough. Regardless, I'm not putting much faith in your predictions regarding IU.

 

Illinois once again proves a tough matchup for IU. I think it has a lot to do with Pruitt, who with his size matches up and basically neutralizes DJ White. Weber is also a very good coach.

I think I said it was absurd to count on a freshman being an all big ten performer before he ever plays a college game. I still think it is. Gordon is going to be that though. If you think Sampson is doing his best to prepare EJ for the pros than your nuts. How many shots did he take today? Not nearly enough for a guy who was the best player on the floor. EJ should pretty much shoot 50 percent of your shots. He isn't, thus Sampson is in a sense sitting on him.

[Exile on Waveland]

IU certainly didn't play like a top 10 team today. I wouldn't write them off that easily though. Bassett saved their butt today, he wasn't even supposed to play. He has been battling bone chips in his ankle and needs surgery. Ratliff has been out for most of the year due to his own stupidity (literally).

 

I think if they can get everybody on the same page in the backcourt they can still be tough. It is a guards game these days, and DJ White can hold his own down low.

 

Do I think they are on the level of UNC, KU, Memphis? No way. But just because they played below potential today doesn't mean they will in March. It is still January.

 

We shall see.

Right, plus Sampson has a track record of having his teams play better in the postseason than they did in the regular season. Oh wait....

 

Is that the best you have? :wink:

 

I didn't predict anything. Just mentioned that its foolish to saw how IU will do 2 months from now based on one game in the mid January.

I honestly think you will win one game in the tournament. One. Oh and before you go there we won't make any tournament. None.

 

Before the season, you thought it was "absurd" that Gordon would make first team all Big Ten, and that Sampson would "kill" Gordon like he does all his talented players (despite not having really coached any). I don't think IU is a top-5 team, but they're better than they showed today. I thought today would be tough. Regardless, I'm not putting much faith in your predictions regarding IU.

 

Illinois once again proves a tough matchup for IU. I think it has a lot to do with Pruitt, who with his size matches up and basically neutralizes DJ White. Weber is also a very good coach.

 

Pruitt was a non factor the entire first half yet the Illini led by 4 at the half. Im sure that IU is better than they showed today, but I dont think they are so much better that they are a top 10-15 team in the nation. IU is very vulnerable.

 

Pruitt had 14 and 8, White 15 and 10. Those are nearly identical numbers; hence, neutralization. I'm unsure what their numbers were at half, but, overall they're about equal.

 

Indiana is vulnerable to teams with two good big guys, IU is weak at the four. They've also played an anemic schedule, which has hurt their progression. As has hardly playing with their full allotment of players. It's hard to judge how good IU is at this point, or how good they can become (they lost to the best team they've played by 15). But I'd struggle to list 15 teams that are clearly better, or 10 teams with more potential.

[Exile on Waveland]

IU certainly didn't play like a top 10 team today. I wouldn't write them off that easily though. Bassett saved their butt today, he wasn't even supposed to play. He has been battling bone chips in his ankle and needs surgery. Ratliff has been out for most of the year due to his own stupidity (literally).

 

I think if they can get everybody on the same page in the backcourt they can still be tough. It is a guards game these days, and DJ White can hold his own down low.

 

Do I think they are on the level of UNC, KU, Memphis? No way. But just because they played below potential today doesn't mean they will in March. It is still January.

 

We shall see.

Right, plus Sampson has a track record of having his teams play better in the postseason than they did in the regular season. Oh wait....

 

Is that the best you have? :wink:

 

I didn't predict anything. Just mentioned that its foolish to saw how IU will do 2 months from now based on one game in the mid January.

I honestly think you will win one game in the tournament. One. Oh and before you go there we won't make any tournament. None.

 

Before the season, you thought it was "absurd" that Gordon would make first team all Big Ten, and that Sampson would "kill" Gordon like he does all his talented players (despite not having really coached any). I don't think IU is a top-5 team, but they're better than they showed today. I thought today would be tough. Regardless, I'm not putting much faith in your predictions regarding IU.

 

Illinois once again proves a tough matchup for IU. I think it has a lot to do with Pruitt, who with his size matches up and basically neutralizes DJ White. Weber is also a very good coach.

I think I said it was absurd to count on a freshman being an all big ten performer before he ever plays a college game. I still think it is. Gordon is going to be that though. If you think Sampson is doing his best to prepare EJ for the pros than your nuts. How many shots did he take today? Not nearly enough for a guy who was the best player on the floor. EJ should pretty much shoot 50 percent of your shots. He isn't, thus Sampson is in a sense sitting on him.

 

With the one-year rule, freshman are going to be a huge force in college basketball. Especially in a mediocre conference like the Big Ten. That was evident last year. Gordon was basically a lock to be among the best handful of players in the league.

 

Gordon should take 50 percent of IU's shots? Are you serious? Sampson's job is to win, then to develop Gordon for the NBA. I hope 50 percent is an exaggeration. No team is going to win big with one player dominating shots like that. Gordon is leading the league in scoring; I'd say he's not being sit on too much.

[illiniguy]

IU certainly didn't play like a top 10 team today. I wouldn't write them off that easily though. Bassett saved their butt today, he wasn't even supposed to play. He has been battling bone chips in his ankle and needs surgery. Ratliff has been out for most of the year due to his own stupidity (literally).

 

I think if they can get everybody on the same page in the backcourt they can still be tough. It is a guards game these days, and DJ White can hold his own down low.

 

Do I think they are on the level of UNC, KU, Memphis? No way. But just because they played below potential today doesn't mean they will in March. It is still January.

 

We shall see.

Right, plus Sampson has a track record of having his teams play better in the postseason than they did in the regular season. Oh wait....

 

Is that the best you have? :wink:

 

I didn't predict anything. Just mentioned that its foolish to saw how IU will do 2 months from now based on one game in the mid January.

I honestly think you will win one game in the tournament. One. Oh and before you go there we won't make any tournament. None.

 

Before the season, you thought it was "absurd" that Gordon would make first team all Big Ten, and that Sampson would "kill" Gordon like he does all his talented players (despite not having really coached any). I don't think IU is a top-5 team, but they're better than they showed today. I thought today would be tough. Regardless, I'm not putting much faith in your predictions regarding IU.

 

Illinois once again proves a tough matchup for IU. I think it has a lot to do with Pruitt, who with his size matches up and basically neutralizes DJ White. Weber is also a very good coach.

I think I said it was absurd to count on a freshman being an all big ten performer before he ever plays a college game. I still think it is. Gordon is going to be that though. If you think Sampson is doing his best to prepare EJ for the pros than your nuts. How many shots did he take today? Not nearly enough for a guy who was the best player on the floor. EJ should pretty much shoot 50 percent of your shots. He isn't, thus Sampson is in a sense sitting on him.

 

With the one-year rule, freshman are going to be a huge force in college basketball. Especially in a mediocre conference like the Big Ten. That was evident last year. Gordon was basically a lock to be among the best handful of players in the league.

 

Gordon should take 50 percent of IU's shots? Are you serious? Sampson's job is to win, then to develop Gordon for the NBA. I hope 50 percent is an exaggeration. No team is going to win big with one player dominating shots like that. Gordon is leading the league in scoring; I'd say he's not being sit on too much.

In close games at least I would want EJ taking half the shots. He is by far your best. Why the hell Mike WHite ever plays is beyond me. It basically screams for one man to be able to double him. Sampson coached a terrible game today. He allowed for Randle to doublt by playing White a ton and he never once played zone.

 

As for your frosh thing, I guess you are right.

[Exile on Waveland]

IU certainly didn't play like a top 10 team today. I wouldn't write them off that easily though. Bassett saved their butt today, he wasn't even supposed to play. He has been battling bone chips in his ankle and needs surgery. Ratliff has been out for most of the year due to his own stupidity (literally).

 

I think if they can get everybody on the same page in the backcourt they can still be tough. It is a guards game these days, and DJ White can hold his own down low.

 

Do I think they are on the level of UNC, KU, Memphis? No way. But just because they played below potential today doesn't mean they will in March. It is still January.

 

We shall see.

Right, plus Sampson has a track record of having his teams play better in the postseason than they did in the regular season. Oh wait....

 

Is that the best you have? :wink:

 

I didn't predict anything. Just mentioned that its foolish to saw how IU will do 2 months from now based on one game in the mid January.

I honestly think you will win one game in the tournament. One. Oh and before you go there we won't make any tournament. None.

 

Before the season, you thought it was "absurd" that Gordon would make first team all Big Ten, and that Sampson would "kill" Gordon like he does all his talented players (despite not having really coached any). I don't think IU is a top-5 team, but they're better than they showed today. I thought today would be tough. Regardless, I'm not putting much faith in your predictions regarding IU.

 

Illinois once again proves a tough matchup for IU. I think it has a lot to do with Pruitt, who with his size matches up and basically neutralizes DJ White. Weber is also a very good coach.

I think I said it was absurd to count on a freshman being an all big ten performer before he ever plays a college game. I still think it is. Gordon is going to be that though. If you think Sampson is doing his best to prepare EJ for the pros than your nuts. How many shots did he take today? Not nearly enough for a guy who was the best player on the floor. EJ should pretty much shoot 50 percent of your shots. He isn't, thus Sampson is in a sense sitting on him.

 

With the one-year rule, freshman are going to be a huge force in college basketball. Especially in a mediocre conference like the Big Ten. That was evident last year. Gordon was basically a lock to be among the best handful of players in the league.

 

Gordon should take 50 percent of IU's shots? Are you serious? Sampson's job is to win, then to develop Gordon for the NBA. I hope 50 percent is an exaggeration. No team is going to win big with one player dominating shots like that. Gordon is leading the league in scoring; I'd say he's not being sit on too much.

In close games at least I would want EJ taking half the shots. He is by far your best. Why the hell Mike WHite ever plays is beyond me. It basically screams for one man to be able to double him. Sampson coached a terrible game today. He allowed for Randle to doublt by playing White a ton and he never once played zone.

 

As for your frosh thing, I guess you are right.

 

Sampson is an above average coach, but he's by no means perfect. He's been out-coached in two of three Big Ten games so far. He did go to zone once, but Randle got free for a dunk then he scrapped it. That was a mistake. More offense needs to be run for Gordon late in the game, I agree. He's a fabulous scorer and shooter, for sure, but he's not yet a great one-on-one player due mainly to his ball-handling. Against a good defensive player -- especially a 6-9 one like Randle -- screens could be quite useful.

 

As for Mike White, I'm certainly not his biggest fan. He can't finish inside at all. He plays hard and makes some hustle plays. However, he plays by necessity. The other options are Stemler or Thomas, neither of which bring much more. Sampson did go to a four guard lineup in the second half. When possible, that should be IU's most talented lineup. Some of this blame must also go to Davis, who recruited one credible high school big man in six years (and the one, DJ White, has basically his surrogate son).

[rawaction]

I agree, Big Ten officiating is ridiculously bad. I will agree that IU got the better of the calls, but then again, did have many more fouls called on them. I figured the game would go something like that. Was hoping we could put it away sooner.

 

As for IU not being a top 10 team....name 10 teams better. Kansas, Memphis, UNC, UCLA are all clearly better. Washington St and Georgetown are pretty good, and probably better. But after that, I don't see how Michigan St, Tennessee, Duke or Texas A&M are any better than IU (the other top 10 teams in either poll). While they've only put up 2 solid halves vs. UK and SIU, they will grow more than any other team in the country the next 2 months. AJ Ratliff has only played 3 games in 10 months and hasn't got his shot back. Today was the first game all 5 guards in the rotation have played at the same time. If this team puts together a complete game on both ends of the floor, I think they can compete with anyone.....even the top 4.

[rawaction]

Yeah, Mike White can't finish at all. If he was 6'8", he'd be a star. But he's 6'6", wide, and can't jump. I don't think I've ever seen him dunk a ball. He is a great rebounder and a decent post defender.

[snoodmonger]

I agree, Big Ten officiating is ridiculously bad. I will agree that IU got the better of the calls, but then again, did have many more fouls called on them. I figured the game would go something like that. Was hoping we could put it away sooner.

 

As for IU not being a top 10 team....name 10 teams better. Kansas, Memphis, UNC, UCLA are all clearly better. Washington St and Georgetown are pretty good, and probably better. But after that, I don't see how Michigan St, Tennessee, Duke or Texas A&M are any better than IU (the other top 10 teams in either poll). While they've only put up 2 solid halves vs. UK and SIU, they will grow more than any other team in the country the next 2 months. AJ Ratliff has only played 3 games in 10 months and hasn't got his shot back. Today was the first game all 5 guards in the rotation have played at the same time. If this team puts together a complete game on both ends of the floor, I think they can compete with anyone.....even the top 4.

 

 

I think IU is right round ten, IMO. I'd put them behind (not necessarily in this order):

 

KU

Memphis

UNC

UCLA

Georgetown

Wazzu

aTm

Texas (despite being so Jekyll and Hyde recently)

 

 

Duke and Tennessee maybe. MSU, no.

[CubColtPacer]

IU certainly didn't play like a top 10 team today. I wouldn't write them off that easily though. Bassett saved their butt today, he wasn't even supposed to play. He has been battling bone chips in his ankle and needs surgery. Ratliff has been out for most of the year due to his own stupidity (literally).

 

I think if they can get everybody on the same page in the backcourt they can still be tough. It is a guards game these days, and DJ White can hold his own down low.

 

Do I think they are on the level of UNC, KU, Memphis? No way. But just because they played below potential today doesn't mean they will in March. It is still January.

 

We shall see.

Right, plus Sampson has a track record of having his teams play better in the postseason than they did in the regular season. Oh wait....

 

Is that the best you have? :wink:

 

I didn't predict anything. Just mentioned that its foolish to saw how IU will do 2 months from now based on one game in the mid January.

I honestly think you will win one game in the tournament. One. Oh and before you go there we won't make any tournament. None.

 

Before the season, you thought it was "absurd" that Gordon would make first team all Big Ten, and that Sampson would "kill" Gordon like he does all his talented players (despite not having really coached any). I don't think IU is a top-5 team, but they're better than they showed today. I thought today would be tough. Regardless, I'm not putting much faith in your predictions regarding IU.

 

Illinois once again proves a tough matchup for IU. I think it has a lot to do with Pruitt, who with his size matches up and basically neutralizes DJ White. Weber is also a very good coach.

I think I said it was absurd to count on a freshman being an all big ten performer before he ever plays a college game. I still think it is. Gordon is going to be that though. If you think Sampson is doing his best to prepare EJ for the pros than your nuts. How many shots did he take today? Not nearly enough for a guy who was the best player on the floor. EJ should pretty much shoot 50 percent of your shots. He isn't, thus Sampson is in a sense sitting on him.

 

Sampson has been pleading with Gordon to take a greater percentage of the teams shots the last few games. He even publicly stated that's what he wanted. Whatever is keeping Gordon from being more selfish with the ball (which would probably help IU), it isn't Sampson.

 

As for the no zone thing, IU has looked absolutely awful with the zone this year. Last years team did pretty well with the zone, but this years team plays a very loose zone. The one zone play they did today looked a lot like the zone looks I've seen in other games, so I was glad to see them take it out again.

[illiniguy]

I agree, Big Ten officiating is ridiculously bad. I will agree that IU got the better of the calls, but then again, did have many more fouls called on them. I figured the game would go something like that. Was hoping we could put it away sooner.

 

As for IU not being a top 10 team....name 10 teams better. Kansas, Memphis, UNC, UCLA are all clearly better. Washington St and Georgetown are pretty good, and probably better. But after that, I don't see how Michigan St, Tennessee, Duke or Texas A&M are any better than IU (the other top 10 teams in either poll). While they've only put up 2 solid halves vs. UK and SIU, they will grow more than any other team in the country the next 2 months. AJ Ratliff has only played 3 games in 10 months and hasn't got his shot back. Today was the first game all 5 guards in the rotation have played at the same time. If this team puts together a complete game on both ends of the floor, I think they can compete with anyone.....even the top 4.

KU

Memphis

UNC

UCLA

WSU

Georgetown

Duke

Pitt(they will be healthy again)

Tennesse

Michigan State

Dayton

Xavier

Wisconsin(they are always way underrated)

Stanford

hell you might not be the best team in Indiana, Butler

But I feel you are a real good top 25 team. By season's end, if Gordon starts to take control of the team, I think you will be a borderline top 10.

[rawaction]

I agree, Big Ten officiating is ridiculously bad. I will agree that IU got the better of the calls, but then again, did have many more fouls called on them. I figured the game would go something like that. Was hoping we could put it away sooner.

 

As for IU not being a top 10 team....name 10 teams better. Kansas, Memphis, UNC, UCLA are all clearly better. Washington St and Georgetown are pretty good, and probably better. But after that, I don't see how Michigan St, Tennessee, Duke or Texas A&M are any better than IU (the other top 10 teams in either poll). While they've only put up 2 solid halves vs. UK and SIU, they will grow more than any other team in the country the next 2 months. AJ Ratliff has only played 3 games in 10 months and hasn't got his shot back. Today was the first game all 5 guards in the rotation have played at the same time. If this team puts together a complete game on both ends of the floor, I think they can compete with anyone.....even the top 4.

KU

Memphis

UNC

UCLA

WSU

Georgetown

Duke

Pitt(they will be healthy again)

Tennesse

Michigan State

Dayton

Xavier

Wisconsin(they are always way underrated)

Stanford

hell you might not be the best team in Indiana, Butler

But I feel you are a real good top 25 team. By season's end, if Gordon starts to take control of the team, I think you will be a borderline top 10.

 

A couple of those teams are matchup problems (stanford immediately comes to mind), but I don't think any not in the 6 I named are better, including Xavier.

[illiniguy]

I agree, Big Ten officiating is ridiculously bad. I will agree that IU got the better of the calls, but then again, did have many more fouls called on them. I figured the game would go something like that. Was hoping we could put it away sooner.

 

As for IU not being a top 10 team....name 10 teams better. Kansas, Memphis, UNC, UCLA are all clearly better. Washington St and Georgetown are pretty good, and probably better. But after that, I don't see how Michigan St, Tennessee, Duke or Texas A&M are any better than IU (the other top 10 teams in either poll). While they've only put up 2 solid halves vs. UK and SIU, they will grow more than any other team in the country the next 2 months. AJ Ratliff has only played 3 games in 10 months and hasn't got his shot back. Today was the first game all 5 guards in the rotation have played at the same time. If this team puts together a complete game on both ends of the floor, I think they can compete with anyone.....even the top 4.

KU

Memphis

UNC

UCLA

WSU

Georgetown

Duke

Pitt(they will be healthy again)

Tennesse

Michigan State

Dayton

Xavier

Wisconsin(they are always way underrated)

Stanford

hell you might not be the best team in Indiana, Butler

But I feel you are a real good top 25 team. By season's end, if Gordon starts to take control of the team, I think you will be a borderline top 10.

 

A couple of those teams are matchup problems (stanford immediately comes to mind), but I don't think any not in the 6 I named are better, including Xavier.

I disagree. I think Tennesse and Duke would destroy you. You do know EJ would have 3 fouls about a minute into that Duke game, right?

[rawaction]

I agree, Big Ten officiating is ridiculously bad. I will agree that IU got the better of the calls, but then again, did have many more fouls called on them. I figured the game would go something like that. Was hoping we could put it away sooner.

 

As for IU not being a top 10 team....name 10 teams better. Kansas, Memphis, UNC, UCLA are all clearly better. Washington St and Georgetown are pretty good, and probably better. But after that, I don't see how Michigan St, Tennessee, Duke or Texas A&M are any better than IU (the other top 10 teams in either poll). While they've only put up 2 solid halves vs. UK and SIU, they will grow more than any other team in the country the next 2 months. AJ Ratliff has only played 3 games in 10 months and hasn't got his shot back. Today was the first game all 5 guards in the rotation have played at the same time. If this team puts together a complete game on both ends of the floor, I think they can compete with anyone.....even the top 4.

KU

Memphis

UNC

UCLA

WSU

Georgetown

Duke

Pitt(they will be healthy again)

Tennesse

Michigan State

Dayton

Xavier

Wisconsin(they are always way underrated)

Stanford

hell you might not be the best team in Indiana, Butler

But I feel you are a real good top 25 team. By season's end, if Gordon starts to take control of the team, I think you will be a borderline top 10.

 

A couple of those teams are matchup problems (stanford immediately comes to mind), but I don't think any not in the 6 I named are better, including Xavier.

I disagree. I think Tennesse and Duke would destroy you. You do know EJ would have 3 fouls about a minute into that Duke game, right?

 

Yeah, pretty sure we would have 13 team fouls by the 1st TV timeout. IU matches up well vs. Duke though. IU vs. UT would be fun, though.

 

And for the record, the ball should go into DJ White. He's a better player right now than Eric Gordon, because he's better at setting up his teammates.

[Keener98]

I agree, Big Ten officiating is ridiculously bad. I will agree that IU got the better of the calls, but then again, did have many more fouls called on them. I figured the game would go something like that. Was hoping we could put it away sooner.

 

As for IU not being a top 10 team....name 10 teams better. Kansas, Memphis, UNC, UCLA are all clearly better. Washington St and Georgetown are pretty good, and probably better. But after that, I don't see how Michigan St, Tennessee, Duke or Texas A&M are any better than IU (the other top 10 teams in either poll). While they've only put up 2 solid halves vs. UK and SIU, they will grow more than any other team in the country the next 2 months. AJ Ratliff has only played 3 games in 10 months and hasn't got his shot back. Today was the first game all 5 guards in the rotation have played at the same time. If this team puts together a complete game on both ends of the floor, I think they can compete with anyone.....even the top 4.

KU

Memphis

UNC

UCLA

WSU

Georgetown

Duke

Pitt(they will be healthy again)

Tennesse

Michigan State

Dayton

Xavier

Wisconsin(they are always way underrated)

Stanford

hell you might not be the best team in Indiana, Butler

But I feel you are a real good top 25 team. By season's end, if Gordon starts to take control of the team, I think you will be a borderline top 10.

 

A couple of those teams are matchup problems (stanford immediately comes to mind), but I don't think any not in the 6 I named are better, including Xavier.

 

Just curious how you can say Xavier isnt better than IU when they beat IU pretty easily already. Not saying that if they met again things would be the same, but I think you have to say Xavier is the better team. And before anyone says "well is Iowa better than Mich St", the comparisons arent the same.

[snoodmonger]

KU beats OU 85-55. I wish Blake Griffin hadn't gone down, as he would have really increased the degree of difficulty, though we probably still would've blown them out.

 

Huge game at Mizzou this weekend. Plenty of great KU teams have tripped up in columbia. Hopefully we'll curb-stomp them this year.

[soapy]

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[Exile on Waveland]

I agree, Big Ten officiating is ridiculously bad. I will agree that IU got the better of the calls, but then again, did have many more fouls called on them. I figured the game would go something like that. Was hoping we could put it away sooner.

 

As for IU not being a top 10 team....name 10 teams better. Kansas, Memphis, UNC, UCLA are all clearly better. Washington St and Georgetown are pretty good, and probably better. But after that, I don't see how Michigan St, Tennessee, Duke or Texas A&M are any better than IU (the other top 10 teams in either poll). While they've only put up 2 solid halves vs. UK and SIU, they will grow more than any other team in the country the next 2 months. AJ Ratliff has only played 3 games in 10 months and hasn't got his shot back. Today was the first game all 5 guards in the rotation have played at the same time. If this team puts together a complete game on both ends of the floor, I think they can compete with anyone.....even the top 4.

KU

Memphis

UNC

UCLA

WSU

Georgetown

Duke

Pitt(they will be healthy again)

Tennesse

Michigan State

Dayton

Xavier

Wisconsin(they are always way underrated)

Stanford

hell you might not be the best team in Indiana, Butler

But I feel you are a real good top 25 team. By season's end, if Gordon starts to take control of the team, I think you will be a borderline top 10.

 

A couple of those teams are matchup problems (stanford immediately comes to mind), but I don't think any not in the 6 I named are better, including Xavier.

 

Just curious how you can say Xavier isnt better than IU when they beat IU pretty easily already. Not saying that if they met again things would be the same, but I think you have to say Xavier is the better team. And before anyone says "well is Iowa better than Mich St", the comparisons arent the same.

 

Xavier is, and was, a bad matchup for IU. That's why I said weeks before the game I was skeptical about IU's chances. If they played again, I'd expect it to be closer as IU has improved, but perhaps the same outcome. Now, I don't know if that intrinsically makes them better overall or not.

 

I also am not sure that Michigan State, Dayton, Wisconsin or Stanford are better than IU. Probably the same goes for Duke and Pitt. Maybe they all are, maybe none are. It's still relatively early; I'd like to wait until IU gets tested more. I still think IU is the best in the Big Ten. We'll see about that, though.

[badgercub]

Wisconsin v. Penn St. tonight - should be a good test for the Badgers. Cornley and Claxton a formiddable duo, and they now have some players around them. Badgers will have to take advantage of their height and pound the ball down low.

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Rematch of Texas in the Sweet 16 would be fantastic.

 

Definitely got to get the 1 seed in the West and play the first two games 20 miles away in Anaheim.

[Derwood]

Wisconsin v. Penn St. tonight - should be a good test for the Badgers. Cornley and Claxton a formiddable duo, and they now have some players around them. Badgers will have to take advantage of their height and pound the ball down low.

 

Penn State can rebound, but they can't shoot foul shots, so Wiscy just needs to "hack-a-shaq" them and they'll win