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I don't there has ever been a manager who has made the right move every time. Nope, never. Some may make decisions that make us scratch our heads but even then we don't have all the info they have avaliable.
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I don't there has ever been a manager who has made the right move every time. Nope, never. Some may make decisions that make us scratch our heads but even then we don't have all the info they have avaliable.

 

I couldn't understand the double-switch for Braun though. And then the pitching stuff too.

 

He's made some bad decisions. I think some players were grumbling about his decision-making earlier in the year too.

 

He's the guy who had the fortune of riding the wave when all these prospects hit the majors though, so he's the one who is up for an extension if the Crew makes the playoffs. That's how it works I guess, the other guys might have actually been better but they didn't have the timing.

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I don't there has ever been a manager who has made the right move every time. Nope, never. Some may make decisions that make us scratch our heads but even then we don't have all the info they have avaliable.

 

I couldn't understand the double-switch for Braun though. And then the pitching stuff too.

 

He's made some bad decisions. I think some players were grumbling about his decision-making earlier in the year too.

 

He's the guy who had the fortune of riding the wave when all these prospects hit the majors though, so he's the one who is up for an extension if the Crew makes the playoffs. That's how it works I guess, the other guys might have actually been better but they didn't have the timing.

 

Heck I don't deny that he may have made a bad move but I've seen a coach win X amount of games in a row coaching a certain style. Everybody loves him and then he loses a couple and those same fans question those moves, the same exact types of moves he's made before.

 

What did Yost do, the whole situation?

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I don't there has ever been a manager who has made the right move every time. Nope, never. Some may make decisions that make us scratch our heads but even then we don't have all the info they have avaliable.

 

I couldn't understand the double-switch for Braun though. And then the pitching stuff too.

 

He's made some bad decisions. I think some players were grumbling about his decision-making earlier in the year too.

 

He's the guy who had the fortune of riding the wave when all these prospects hit the majors though, so he's the one who is up for an extension if the Crew makes the playoffs. That's how it works I guess, the other guys might have actually been better but they didn't have the timing.

 

Heck I don't deny that he may have made a bad move but I've seen a coach win X amount of games in a row coaching a certain style. Everybody loves him and then he loses a couple and those same fans question those moves, the same exact types of moves he's made before.

 

What did Yost do, the whole situation?

 

I think the thing that's being said today is the fact that Yost went to Turnbow with inherited runners, something he has shown he can't do. And then he went to Wise who has been just drop dead terrible in the 2nd half.

 

The Braun situation I don't know the full story, I just know when I switched to the game he was out. To me that's like double-switching Lee out of the game. Maybe I'm wrong and I fully admit to not knowing the whole situation there, but how does that make sense unless Braun is struggling?

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If the Brewers fail to make the playoffs, how much blame will be placed on Yost? Granted he has made some terrible decisions down the stretch, but shouldn't the fact that they are going to have a winning record and have finally brought winning baseball back to Milwaukee count for something? The Brewers are the one team in the NL Central that is set up for having a winning team for many years.
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Granted he has made some terrible decisions down the stretch, but shouldn't the fact that they are going to have a winning record and have finally brought winning baseball back to Milwaukee count for something?

 

No.

 

He probably cost them at least 3 or 4 games this year.

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If the Brewers fail to make the playoffs, how much blame will be placed on Yost? Granted he has made some terrible decisions down the stretch, but shouldn't the fact that they are going to have a winning record and have finally brought winning baseball back to Milwaukee count for something? The Brewers are the one team in the NL Central that is set up for having a winning team for many years.

 

Or until they become too expensive.

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I don't there has ever been a manager who has made the right move every time. Nope, never. Some may make decisions that make us scratch our heads but even then we don't have all the info they have avaliable.

 

I couldn't understand the double-switch for Braun though. And then the pitching stuff too.

 

He's made some bad decisions. I think some players were grumbling about his decision-making earlier in the year too.

 

He's the guy who had the fortune of riding the wave when all these prospects hit the majors though, so he's the one who is up for an extension if the Crew makes the playoffs. That's how it works I guess, the other guys might have actually been better but they didn't have the timing.

 

Heck I don't deny that he may have made a bad move but I've seen a coach win X amount of games in a row coaching a certain style. Everybody loves him and then he loses a couple and those same fans question those moves, the same exact types of moves he's made before.

 

What did Yost do, the whole situation?

 

I think the thing that's being said today is the fact that Yost went to Turnbow with inherited runners, something he has shown he can't do. And then he went to Wise who has been just drop dead terrible in the 2nd half.

 

The Braun situation I don't know the full story, I just know when I switched to the game he was out. To me that's like double-switching Lee out of the game. Maybe I'm wrong and I fully admit to not knowing the whole situation there, but how does that make sense unless Braun is struggling?

 

Maybe Braun jammed his wrist or something? On paper it may have been a bad move but who knows why he made these moves.

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If the Brewers fail to make the playoffs, how much blame will be placed on Yost? Granted he has made some terrible decisions down the stretch, but shouldn't the fact that they are going to have a winning record and have finally brought winning baseball back to Milwaukee count for something? The Brewers are the one team in the NL Central that is set up for having a winning team for many years.

 

You could basically make the same argument for Dusty after 2003 and even 2004. Look how well that worked out. I think there have been far too many warning signs this year that Yost just isn't cut out for his job. If that's so, I hope he's the Brewers' manager for many years to come.

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Maybe Braun jammed his wrist or something? On paper it may have been a bad move but who knows why he made these moves.

 

Braun didn't jam his wrist. They double switched to avoid pulling a reliever for a PH.

 

Hunter Pence slammed the wall last night harder than anyone I've ever seen, and he didn't come out of the game. And Houston isn't playing for anything.

 

There is no excuse for what Yost did last night, but I'm not complaining.

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Hunter Pence slammed the wall last night harder than anyone I've ever seen, and he didn't come out of the game. And Houston isn't playing for anything.

 

I thought they were just rolling over on purpose for the Brewers. Weird.

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Hunter Pence slammed the wall last night harder than anyone I've ever seen, and he didn't come out of the game. And Houston isn't playing for anything.

 

I thought they were just rolling over on purpose for the Brewers. Weird.

 

I've heard people say that, but Houston actually called the Cubs before those games and told them what was happening.

 

And that Gutierrez kid pitched better than Woody Williams would have. Fact.

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Maybe Braun jammed his wrist or something? On paper it may have been a bad move but who knows why he made these moves.

 

Braun didn't jam his wrist. They double switched to avoid pulling a reliever for a PH.

 

Hunter Pence slammed the wall last night harder than anyone I've ever seen, and he didn't come out of the game. And Houston isn't playing for anything.

 

There is no excuse for what Yost did last night, but I'm not complaining.

 

Were they winning or was it tied?

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Maybe Braun jammed his wrist or something? On paper it may have been a bad move but who knows why he made these moves.

 

Braun didn't jam his wrist. They double switched to avoid pulling a reliever for a PH.

 

Hunter Pence slammed the wall last night harder than anyone I've ever seen, and he didn't come out of the game. And Houston isn't playing for anything.

 

There is no excuse for what Yost did last night, but I'm not complaining.

 

Were they winning or was it tied?

 

They were up 2-1 in the 7th. This wasn't a move made for double switch purposes (they substituted Jenkins in for Dillon at the same time). They take Braun every time they are leading late for defensive purposes, and that's what they did here.

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Were they winning or was it tied?

 

I believe the Brewers were winning. They took Braun out for defensive purposes. But, you need to ask Ender these questions. I was watching the Cub game first and foremost, and switching to the Brewers game during commercials and once the Cub game was over.

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Maybe Braun jammed his wrist or something? On paper it may have been a bad move but who knows why he made these moves.

 

Braun didn't jam his wrist. They double switched to avoid pulling a reliever for a PH.

 

Hunter Pence slammed the wall last night harder than anyone I've ever seen, and he didn't come out of the game. And Houston isn't playing for anything.

 

There is no excuse for what Yost did last night, but I'm not complaining.

 

Were they winning or was it tied?

 

They were up 2-1 in the 7th. This wasn't a move made for double switch purposes (they substituted Jenkins in for Dillon at the same time). They take Braun every time they are leading late for defensive purposes, and that's what they did here.

 

With the Crew's BP, I think it's safe to say it's a bit presumptuous to think a 2-1 lead in the 7th is going to hold up just because you took Braun out for a better defender.

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Maybe Braun jammed his wrist or something? On paper it may have been a bad move but who knows why he made these moves.

 

Braun didn't jam his wrist. They double switched to avoid pulling a reliever for a PH.

 

Hunter Pence slammed the wall last night harder than anyone I've ever seen, and he didn't come out of the game. And Houston isn't playing for anything.

 

There is no excuse for what Yost did last night, but I'm not complaining.

 

Were they winning or was it tied?

 

They were up 2-1 in the 7th. This wasn't a move made for double switch purposes (they substituted Jenkins in for Dillon at the same time). They take Braun every time they are leading late for defensive purposes, and that's what they did here.

 

With the Crew's BP, I think it's safe to say it's a bit presumptuous to think a 2-1 lead in the 7th is going to hold up just because you took Braun out for a better defender.

 

I definitely would agree with that, but Yost obviously doesn't. I'm just saying this Braun thing is no new thing-Yost has been doing it for at least a month a possibly longer.

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Maybe Braun jammed his wrist or something? On paper it may have been a bad move but who knows why he made these moves.

 

Braun didn't jam his wrist. They double switched to avoid pulling a reliever for a PH.

 

Hunter Pence slammed the wall last night harder than anyone I've ever seen, and he didn't come out of the game. And Houston isn't playing for anything.

 

There is no excuse for what Yost did last night, but I'm not complaining.

 

Were they winning or was it tied?

 

They were up 2-1 in the 7th. This wasn't a move made for double switch purposes (they substituted Jenkins in for Dillon at the same time). They take Braun every time they are leading late for defensive purposes, and that's what they did here.

 

So he did what he always does. Have Brewer fans or most importantly the team complained about this before? Is this guy a terrible fielder? It certainly doesn't sound like taking out Lee to me if he isn't a good defensive player. Even though Lee's defense has been rather Durhamish of late!

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Maybe Braun jammed his wrist or something? On paper it may have been a bad move but who knows why he made these moves.

 

Braun didn't jam his wrist. They double switched to avoid pulling a reliever for a PH.

 

Hunter Pence slammed the wall last night harder than anyone I've ever seen, and he didn't come out of the game. And Houston isn't playing for anything.

 

There is no excuse for what Yost did last night, but I'm not complaining.

 

Were they winning or was it tied?

 

They were up 2-1 in the 7th. This wasn't a move made for double switch purposes (they substituted Jenkins in for Dillon at the same time). They take Braun every time they are leading late for defensive purposes, and that's what they did here.

 

So he did what he always does. Have Brewer fans or most importantly the team complained about this before? Is this guy a terrible fielder? It certainly doesn't sound like taking out Lee to me if he isn't a good defensive player. Even though Lee's defense has been rather Durhamish of late!

 

Yeah, Brewers fans have definitely complained about this.

 

Braun has committed 22 errors at third base even though he's only been in the majors since late May and also regularly only plays 7 innings. Even though I hate fielding percentage because the high numbers are so skewed, anybody with a fielding percentage below .900 is most likely an absolutely awful fielder.

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Maybe Braun jammed his wrist or something? On paper it may have been a bad move but who knows why he made these moves.

 

Braun didn't jam his wrist. They double switched to avoid pulling a reliever for a PH.

 

Hunter Pence slammed the wall last night harder than anyone I've ever seen, and he didn't come out of the game. And Houston isn't playing for anything.

 

There is no excuse for what Yost did last night, but I'm not complaining.

 

Were they winning or was it tied?

 

They were up 2-1 in the 7th. This wasn't a move made for double switch purposes (they substituted Jenkins in for Dillon at the same time). They take Braun every time they are leading late for defensive purposes, and that's what they did here.

 

So he did what he always does. Have Brewer fans or most importantly the team complained about this before? Is this guy a terrible fielder? It certainly doesn't sound like taking out Lee to me if he isn't a good defensive player. Even though Lee's defense has been rather Durhamish of late!

 

Yeah, Brewers fans have definitely complained about this.

 

Braun has committed 22 errors at third base even though he's only been in the majors since late May and also regularly only plays 7 innings. Even though I hate fielding percentage because the high numbers are so skewed, anybody with a fielding percentage below .900 is most likely an absolutely awful fielder.

 

I've heard complaints up here about it.

 

I see defensive subs all the time, but in the 7th with a one run lead?

 

He is a bad defender, Schroeder tries to downplay it on the air sometimes but you know -- if you have to bring it up over & over, it means something.

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Aramis wasn't exactly a stud defensive 3b when he first came up. In 2003, he was having a horrible season defensively until he got to Chicago.

 

Sure glad he wasn't pulled for defensive purposes in 2003.

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Hunter Pence slammed the wall last night harder than anyone I've ever seen, and he didn't come out of the game. And Houston isn't playing for anything.

 

I thought they were just rolling over on purpose for the Brewers. Weird.

 

Between Pence slamming the wall hard and staying in the game to get the game winning hit and Brandon Backe busting a hump rounding 2nd and sliding head first into 3rd, Houston was most certainly not just laying down in this game.

 

Backe pinch ran for Orlando Palmeiro after OP walked, and it led to the game winning run.

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