Terry Ryan stepping down as Twins GM

[hawkeyecub]

Longtime assistant Bill Smith will take over. Surprising with the new stadium on it's way. No one seems to have seen it coming and speculation is all over the place.

 

http://www.startribune.com/twins/story/1420419.html

[hawkeyecub]

Oh and I hope he's not headed to Houston.

[Banedon]

Oh and I hope he's not headed to Houston.

 

Or Pittsburgh?

[MPrior]

Fire Jim Hendry now and throw lots of money at Ryan.[/pipe dream]

[DSMCubsFan]

Longtime assistant Bill Smith will take over. Surprising with the new stadium on it's way. No one seems to have seen it coming and speculation is all over the place.

 

http://www.startribune.com/twins/story/1420419.html

 

 

I hadn't heard about their new stadium, do you know if they are sharing it with the Vikings again or what they are doing there?

[Rob]

Wow. This is a huge blow to the Twins franchise.

 

Hopefully we get new management fast enough that he's not off the market yet.

[CuseCubFan69]

I would assume that if leaving Minny because his hands were tied money wise, he certainly wouldn't go to the Pirates.

[SouthSideRyan]

I would assume that if leaving Minny because his hands were tied money wise, he certainly wouldn't go to the Pirates.

 

He wouldn't be held back money wise in Houston, but he certainly wouldn't have total control, they should be out of the running as well.

[hawkeyecub]

Longtime assistant Bill Smith will take over. Surprising with the new stadium on it's way. No one seems to have seen it coming and speculation is all over the place.

 

http://www.startribune.com/twins/story/1420419.html

 

 

I hadn't heard about their new stadium, do you know if they are sharing it with the Vikings again or what they are doing there?

 

Nope, it will just be for the Twins. It's an open-air stadium in downtown Minneapolis that will open in 2010. The Vikes are out of luck and are in trouble right now. I think at this point they're just as likely to go to L.A. as they are to get a new stadium.

[CuseCubFan69]

I would assume that if leaving Minny because his hands were tied money wise, he certainly wouldn't go to the Pirates.

 

He wouldn't be held back money wise in Houston, but he certainly wouldn't have total control, they should be out of the running as well.

 

I'm not sure of the Astro infrastructure so if that is the case, it may not be the place for him.

[hawkeyecub]

Was just listening to a Twins beat writer (the guy who broke the linked story) being interviewed on KFAN and he doesn't think Ryan will go to another team. He said he's a scouting type guy first and foremost and that's his love. He could see him staying on in a senior consultant role. He said teams have thrown big offers at him before (Blue Jays) but he's very loyal to the Twins organization.

 

Don't know if I buy it, but I could see him doing that at least just for a year or so. There are a few teams who will throw a boatload of money at him and give him a lot of control. He may have the luxury of waiting for a situation he really likes.

 

As far as the Twins, they probably won't see a dramatic shift or change in philosophy. Smith has been Ryan's right-hand man for Ryan's entire tenure in Minnesota.

[SouthSideRyan]

I would assume that if leaving Minny because his hands were tied money wise, he certainly wouldn't go to the Pirates.

 

He wouldn't be held back money wise in Houston, but he certainly wouldn't have total control, they should be out of the running as well.

 

I'm not sure of the Astro infrastructure so if that is the case, it may not be the place for him.

 

McClane's a meddler.

[Guest]

Terry Ryan would be almost as maddening as Hendry for many of the folks here. He's essentially a better version of the same profile.

[hawkeyecub]

Terry Ryan would be almost as maddening as Hendry for many of the folks here. He's essentially a better version of the same profile.

 

Yeah I think a lot of the people who are coveting him don't have a firm grasp of his philosophy. As someone who pays close attention to the Twins, I agree with you.

Very concerned about doing the little things the right way, putting the ball in play, situational hitting, values a lot of mediocre veterans, toolsy guys who can play defense, etc.

 

However it is hard to argue with the results vs. their payroll. If he had $100M and could go after a big bat or two to compliment what they've developed in-house, who knows. He gets a lot of the credit for their scouting and development system.

[wolf stansson]

This year could be a bumper crop for proven, veteran gm's if Jocketty leaves.

[CuseCubFan69]

This year could be a bumper crop for proven, veteran gm's if Jocketty leaves.

 

Musical GM's here we go! We might be able to have a game/bet on which of the proven vets doesn't get a chair.

[Mephistopheles]

i dont want ryan

[rawaction]

Terry Ryan would be almost as maddening as Hendry for many of the folks here. He's essentially a better version of the same profile.

 

I'm not sure if it's luck or what, but Ryan's better at the same philosophy. If the Cubs were a little better over Hendry's regime, they would have had more success. I think a little can go a long way. Of course, it would help if the Cubs could produce Mauer, Morneau, Santana, Garza, etc.

[Banedon]

Terry Ryan would be almost as maddening as Hendry for many of the folks here. He's essentially a better version of the same profile.

 

I'm not sure if it's luck or what, but Ryan's better at the same philosophy. If the Cubs were a little better over Hendry's regime, they would have had more success. I think a little can go a long way. Of course, it would help if the Cubs could produce Mauer, Morneau, Santana, Garza, etc.

 

Well the Cubs could've had Mauer instead of Prior...:P

[jmajew]

Terry Ryan would be almost as maddening as Hendry for many of the folks here. He's essentially a better version of the same profile.

 

Yeah I think a lot of the people who are coveting him don't have a firm grasp of his philosophy. As someone who pays close attention to the Twins, I agree with you.

Very concerned about doing the little things the right way, putting the ball in play, situational hitting, values a lot of mediocre veterans, toolsy guys who can play defense, etc.

 

However it is hard to argue with the results vs. their payroll. If he had $100M and could go after a big bat or two to compliment what they've developed in-house, who knows. He gets a lot of the credit for their scouting and development system.

 

Who says just because he has 100 mil to play with he would be any better than he is now. I"m of the belief that big payrools hurt guys like Hendry and Ryan. There is too much emphasis on win now to accept a down year from every once in a while. He woudl be stuck every year trading away his best prospects for aging players.

 

The Yankees are the perfect example of this. Only recently did Cashman convince Steinbrenner to allow him to keep his young guys to help keep the team good for the future.

[Guest]

Terry Ryan would be almost as maddening as Hendry for many of the folks here. He's essentially a better version of the same profile.

 

I'm not sure if it's luck or what, but Ryan's better at the same philosophy. If the Cubs were a little better over Hendry's regime, they would have had more success. I think a little can go a long way. Of course, it would help if the Cubs could produce Mauer, Morneau, Santana, Garza, etc.

 

Well the Cubs could've had Mauer instead of Prior...:P

 

How?

[Mephistopheles]

Ive always believed that he got lucky with Liriano, Mauer and Santana. They all fell into his lap and a lot of the success he had as GM was because of them.

[Banedon]

Terry Ryan would be almost as maddening as Hendry for many of the folks here. He's essentially a better version of the same profile.

 

I'm not sure if it's luck or what, but Ryan's better at the same philosophy. If the Cubs were a little better over Hendry's regime, they would have had more success. I think a little can go a long way. Of course, it would help if the Cubs could produce Mauer, Morneau, Santana, Garza, etc.

 

Well the Cubs could've had Mauer instead of Prior...:P

 

How?

 

Uh..yeah nevermind...I was thinking the Cubs had passed on Mauer for Prior...it was the Twins passing on Prior for Mauer, wasn't it?

[jersey cubs fan]

Ive always believed that he got lucky with Liriano, Mauer and Santana. They all fell into his lap and a lot of the success he had as GM was because of them.

 

Their success started long before Mauer made an impact. Not sure how Santana fell into his lap, they traded for him when he was young and far from a proven commodity.

[wolf stansson]

Ive always believed that he got lucky with Liriano, Mauer and Santana. They all fell into his lap and a lot of the success he had as GM was because of them.

If you include Liriano, you have to include Nathan and Bonser.