8/22 Cubs (Hill) at Giants (Zito) 9:15 PM CT, WGN

[CubColtPacer]

murton sucks..he hasn't done a damn thing besides like 2 solo shots

 

What an ignorant post. Murton has put up a .820 OPS the month of August, and you dont get that by just hitting 2 solo shots.

 

Everytime I see him he gets an an out. .820?? I find it hard to believe.. I think it's all the Murton love that has lead me to hate the guy

 

You're probably remembering his recent slump and projecting it on to the earlier games. He is 4 for his last 29, but he was hot before that.

[Keener98]

murton sucks..he hasn't done a damn thing besides like 2 solo shots

 

What an ignorant post. Murton has put up a .820 OPS the month of August, and you dont get that by just hitting 2 solo shots.

 

Everytime I see him he gets an an out. .820?? I find it hard to believe.. I think it's all the Murton love that has lead me to hate the guy

 

 

yeah I agree with this guy. The way Murton is loved around here, you would expect him to be winning batting titles.

 

Yea give me a break. The numbers all point at Murton playing over Floyd at this point in the season. FLoyd has put up back to back sub .700 OPS the last 2 months.

[B]

cobslol

[Keener98]

murton sucks..he hasn't done a damn thing besides like 2 solo shots

 

What an ignorant post. Murton has put up a .820 OPS the month of August, and you dont get that by just hitting 2 solo shots.

 

Murton has actually been propped up bigtime with his 3 HR's in August

 

55 AB's, .273/.333/.473, 3 HR, 2 2B

 

Now that's just fine-HR's are a great way to prop up numbers because there is less luck involved.

Really though, with such a small sample of at-bats, 2-3 home runs can mean the difference between being good and being awful. For example, Murton without those 3 HR's:

 

52 AB's, .231/.298/.269

 

So yes, the only thing Murton has done this month is those 3 HR's, but HR's are such a big scoring play that those are enough to make him have a good month so far anyway.

 

Exactly those hr's are enough reason to justify him playing over Floyd who hasnt hit a hr since June 26, and has 2 consecutive months of sub .700 OPS.

[B]

Randy Winn with the first 2 putouts

[hawkeyecub]

I know I'm late to the discussion but I'm not all that surprised that Murton is on the bench while Fox is in.

 

Lou, like many managers, hates having only options from one side of the plate off the bench. We have Ward, Fontenot and Pie (even though he won't get an AB) from the left side. If Murton is in the lineup then Floyd is also on the bench and he doesn't have a single RH bat to go to off the bench.

 

Not saying it's right or wrong, but that's his rationale.

[PrimeTime]

Um yea..I dont think were going to hit Zito tonight

[B]

1-2-3

[Handlebar McSkullet]

good start

[UMFan83]

Nasty pitch to K Lee. Ugh this is going to be another long night

[E.J.]

Nice start jerks.

[B]

cobslol

[hawkeyecub]

I know I'm late to the discussion but I'm not all that surprised that Murton is on the bench while Fox is in.

 

Lou, like many managers, hates having only options from one side of the plate off the bench. We have Ward, Fontenot and Pie (even though he won't get an AB) from the left side. If Murton is in the lineup then Floyd is also on the bench and he doesn't have a single RH bat to go to off the bench.

 

Not saying it's right or wrong, but that's his rationale.

[Keener98]

I know I'm late to the discussion but I'm not all that surprised that Murton is on the bench while Fox is in.

 

Lou, like many managers, hates having only options from one side of the plate off the bench. We have Ward, Fontenot and Pie (even though he won't get an AB) from the left side. If Murton is in the lineup then Floyd is also on the bench and he doesn't have a single RH bat to go to off the bench.

 

Not saying it's right or wrong, but that's his rationale.

 

If Lou is using the rational of starting weaker players who will get 4 ab's to save your better players for possibly 1 ab, and possibly no ab's, then he should be fired immediately.

 

I dont think anyone here is bothered by Fox starting its Grandpa Floyd who is the problem

Edited August 23, 2007 by Keener98

[PrimeTime]

I know I'm late to the discussion but I'm not all that surprised that Murton is on the bench while Fox is in.

 

Lou, like many managers, hates having only options from one side of the plate off the bench. We have Ward, Fontenot and Pie (even though he won't get an AB) from the left side. If Murton is in the lineup then Floyd is also on the bench and he doesn't have a single RH bat to go to off the bench.

 

Not saying it's right or wrong, but that's his rationale.

 

I think you need a lefty or two in the lineup so the pitcher has to switch how he pitches.If you have all righties, he can just work that same corner the whole night and really get zoned in and shut us down.By putting a lefty he is forced to move around his pitches more and throw him out of focus so he can't concentrate on that same spot everytime

[Mizzou]

Nice play, Rich!

 

And I like Floyd starting tonight, he's due for a hot streak.

[SouthSideRyan]

murton sucks..he hasn't done a damn thing besides like 2 solo shots

 

What an ignorant post. Murton has put up a .820 OPS the month of August, and you dont get that by just hitting 2 solo shots.

 

Murton has actually been propped up bigtime with his 3 HR's in August

 

55 AB's, .273/.333/.473, 3 HR, 2 2B

 

Now that's just fine-HR's are a great way to prop up numbers because there is less luck involved.

Really though, with such a small sample of at-bats, 2-3 home runs can mean the difference between being good and being awful. For example, Murton without those 3 HR's:

 

52 AB's, .231/.298/.269

 

So yes, the only thing Murton has done this month is those 3 HR's, but HR's are such a big scoring play that those are enough to make him have a good month so far anyway.

 

So taking out HRs makes a guy's numbers look bad??? Weird. I think it's his 3 outs that are dragging down his numbers. Let's magically transform his numbers to this instead.

 

288/351/500

 

Fun!!

 

The way people talk about Cliff Floyd around here you'd think he was Jesus Christ.

 

That was fun too!

[B]

oh noes.

[E.J.]

Why does it seem like Randy Winn is always on base when he plays against the Cubs? :x

[Keener98]

Nice play, Rich!

 

And I like Floyd starting tonight, he's due for a hot streak.

 

Hes been due now for 5 months

[Friendly Confines]

Hill should have lobbed a strike over when Bonds was taking off his armor

[Mizzou]

Nice play, Rich!

 

And I like Floyd starting tonight, he's due for a hot streak.

 

Hes been due now for 5 months

Better late than never!

[E.J.]

Hill should have lobbed a strike over when Bonds was taking off his armor

 

He should have chucked it at his ribs while he was taking off the armor.

[CubColtPacer]

murton sucks..he hasn't done a damn thing besides like 2 solo shots

 

What an ignorant post. Murton has put up a .820 OPS the month of August, and you dont get that by just hitting 2 solo shots.

 

Murton has actually been propped up bigtime with his 3 HR's in August

 

55 AB's, .273/.333/.473, 3 HR, 2 2B

 

Now that's just fine-HR's are a great way to prop up numbers because there is less luck involved.

Really though, with such a small sample of at-bats, 2-3 home runs can mean the difference between being good and being awful. For example, Murton without those 3 HR's:

 

52 AB's, .231/.298/.269

 

So yes, the only thing Murton has done this month is those 3 HR's, but HR's are such a big scoring play that those are enough to make him have a good month so far anyway.

 

So taking out HRs makes a guy's numbers look bad??? Weird. I think it's his 3 outs that are dragging down his numbers. Let's magically transform his numbers to this instead.

 

288/351/500

 

Fun!!

 

The way people talk about Cliff Floyd around here you'd think he was Jesus Christ.

 

That was fun too!

 

Did you read my full post? I said that while that the original poster said was technically correct (that all Murton had done was hit a few home runs and has done little else) that was still valuable with the number of at-bats he has had.

I was defending Murton with that post, not bashing him.

[PrimeTime]

Great Job Hill..So its going to be like last night again