8/22 Cubs (Hill) at Giants (Zito) 9:15 PM CT, WGN

[Handlebar McSkullet]

im surprised that hill hasnt struck out more batters this year.. I thought if he could stay healthy he could easily k 200.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Damn, Theriot!

[SouthSideRyan]

Man the Cardinals are really pissing me off. They aren't that good, how the heck are they freaking winning

I don't know, but it's pissing me off. These guys should be buried by now, yet they're right in the race.

 

Geez, how long did it take Zito to retire the side... 4 minutes?

 

All we had to do was play .500 ball, stay 8 over, and this division would be ours right now.

 

But no, couldn't make it easy. Had to start sucking again.

 

When we were 8 over?

[SouthSideRyan]

Rich Hill is sexy.

[UMFan83]

Man the Cardinals are really pissing me off. They aren't that good, how the heck are they freaking winning

I don't know, but it's pissing me off. These guys should be buried by now, yet they're right in the race.

 

Geez, how long did it take Zito to retire the side... 4 minutes?

 

All we had to do was play .500 ball, stay 8 over, and this division would be ours right now.

 

But no, couldn't make it easy. Had to start sucking again.

 

When we were 8 over?

 

After the first game of the Phillies series

[Keener98]

I know I'm late to the discussion but I'm not all that surprised that Murton is on the bench while Fox is in.

 

Lou, like many managers, hates having only options from one side of the plate off the bench. We have Ward, Fontenot and Pie (even though he won't get an AB) from the left side. If Murton is in the lineup then Floyd is also on the bench and he doesn't have a single RH bat to go to off the bench.

 

Not saying it's right or wrong, but that's his rationale.

 

If Lou is using the rational of starting weaker players who will get 4 ab's to save your better players for possibly 1 ab, and possibly no ab's, then he should be fired immediately.

 

There really isn't as big of a discrepency between Floyd and Murton as you make it sound. I wouldn't classify Floyd as a "weaker" player and Murton as one of our "better" players. He's not starting Fontenot over Ramirez.

 

They've both been non-productive. Honestly the hyperbole over this is just weird.

 

Theres not a big discrepency? August OPS for Murton over .800 Floyds under .700 for the 2nd consecutive month, thats a big discrepency.

[C.C.]

Good job Hill.

[SouthSideRyan]

Man the Cardinals are really pissing me off. They aren't that good, how the heck are they freaking winning

I don't know, but it's pissing me off. These guys should be buried by now, yet they're right in the race.

 

Geez, how long did it take Zito to retire the side... 4 minutes?

 

All we had to do was play .500 ball, stay 8 over, and this division would be ours right now.

 

But no, couldn't make it easy. Had to start sucking again.

 

When we were 8 over?

 

After the first game of the Phillies series

 

Huh.

 

2 and a Half Men is an abomination.

[abuck1220]

im surprised that hill hasnt struck out more batters this year.. I thought if he could stay healthy he could easily k 200.

 

he was 8th in the nl in k's before the game...could move up to 5th the way he's going tonight.

[UMFan83]

Stupid Cardinals win 6-4

[Handlebar McSkullet]

im surprised that hill hasnt struck out more batters this year.. I thought if he could stay healthy he could easily k 200.

 

he was 8th in the nl in k's before the game...could move up to 5th the way he's going tonight.

 

once he learns a solid third pitch he is going to be.... filth pure filth

[C.C.]

Stupid Cardinals win 6-4

 

They just keep hanging around.

[SouthSideRyan]

Len just copied that from the game thread.

[Soul]

Zito is killing us.

[E.J.]

Didn't take long for Jacque to start sucking again. Nice at-bat idiot.

[C.C.]

We are just making it easy for Zito.

[UMFan83]

We're going to get PG'd aren't we?

[SouthSideRyan]

I'm doubting the fans voted Wes Parker.

 

I don't doubt that they voted Jeter 2nd best SS. Flippin idiots.

[C.C.]

Man, this is looking ugly.

[E.J.]

How many pitches has Zito thrown, about 15?

[UMFan83]

Didn't take long for Jacque to start sucking again. Nice at-bat idiot.

 

2 for his last 18 ABs

[SouthSideRyan]

Arizona's offense is just very very bad. Wonder if I should cut bait on Upton and assume he's another product of AZ's minor league parks.

[UMFan83]

How many pitches has Zito thrown, about 15?

 

28 through 3

[SouthSideRyan]

How many pitches has Zito thrown, about 15?

 

negative 3.

[E.J.]

Didn't take long for Jacque to start sucking again. Nice at-bat idiot.

 

2 for his last 18 ABs

 

He's this year's Neifi.