Floyd & Blanco activated, Cedeno to Iowa, Koyie Hill DFA

[SouthSideRyan]

Might as well release Cedeno -- he clearly has no future as a major league baseball player.

 

I like that Blanco is back. He works well with Z, and although he isn't that good of a hitter he seems to have a knack for coming up with big hits.

 

Cedeno's 24. And started 9 games this season. He'll probably never be more than a utility IF, but to write off a guy as CLEARLY having no future as a major leaguer is nuts considering his minor league record since '04.

 

Koyie Hill worked well with Zambrano too, and he had about as many big hits in his time up as Blanco did in his last 3 seasons.

 

Koyie: .161 .231 .269 OPS+ 28

 

"Hank": .251 .302 .395 OPS+ roughly 70

 

I can't believe I'm saying this, but Henry Blanco is a major upgrade (assuming he doesn't take PT away from Kendall or future PT from Soto, which may be a stretch).

 

edit: anyone know an easier way on BR.com to total a player's stats with a certain team?

 

I'm obviously not going to argue that Blanco isn't an upgrade over Koyie, but if they were just gonna friggin DFA the guy, then DFA the guy 3 weeks ago and let Soto get a few starts.

[Electron Blue]

Might as well release Cedeno -- he clearly has no future as a major league baseball player.

 

I like that Blanco is back. He works well with Z, and although he isn't that good of a hitter he seems to have a knack for coming up with big hits.

 

Cedeno's 24. And started 9 games this season. He'll probably never be more than a utility IF, but to write off a guy as CLEARLY having no future as a major leaguer is nuts considering his minor league record since '04.

 

Koyie Hill worked well with Zambrano too, and he had about as many big hits in his time up as Blanco did in his last 3 seasons.

 

Koyie: .161 .231 .269 OPS+ 28

 

"Hank": .251 .302 .395 OPS+ roughly 70

 

I can't believe I'm saying this, but Henry Blanco is a major upgrade (assuming he doesn't take PT away from Kendall or future PT from Soto, which may be a stretch).

 

edit: anyone know an easier way on BR.com to total a player's stats with a certain team?

 

I'm obviously not going to argue that Blanco isn't an upgrade over Koyie, but if they were just gonna friggin DFA the guy, then DFA the guy 3 weeks ago and let Soto get a few starts.

 

completely agree. But i was talking about your last statement, which -- intentionally or not -- implied that you thought Koyie's and Henry's offensive abilities were a wash, which would be giving Koyie WAY too much credit.

[Balsa]

Thank god the Hill experiment is over.

 

I just hope Hank White still has some of his defense left. Watching him try to throw out runners at the beginning of the year was painful.

 

Cedeno's gonna be traded soon. Talk about a glut of middle infields. Between DeRosa, EPatt, Cedeno, Theriot, and Fontenot we have too many.

 

I hope Floyd doesn't start every day though. With his lack of power, I'd rather have Murton in there.

[Guest]

Might as well release Cedeno -- he clearly has no future as a major league baseball player.

 

What a friggin waste of an asset that would be. Err, what SSR said.

[soccer10k]

...but if they were just gonna friggin DFA the guy, then DFA the guy 3 weeks ago and let Soto get a few starts.

 

That's what I'm most ticked about. Why they waited this long to do it is something I would like to know. I could care less about Hill being gone, it's not like the Cubs are losing anything. But it's not like he suddenly started to suck the last couple weeks. He never was good in the first place.

[Brian]

poor Geo :(

 

He's going to have fun being a bullpen catcher in September.

[BCVM22]

Don't sell the guy short, I'm sure he'll get to catch some ceremonial first pitches along the way.

[wvcbxl]

No surprise here. I wonder if Ronny's days with this team have come and gone now that Theriot seems entrenched.

 

Well, until we get Arod. :D

we're trading for him right now :D

 

Arod for K.Hill straight up? :jocolor:

[Mizzou]

Might as well release Cedeno -- he clearly has no future as a major league baseball player.

 

What a friggin waste of an asset that would be. Err, what SSR said.

Asset? What exactly does Cedeno bring to the table?

[Bote McBoteface]

Might as well release Cedeno -- he clearly has no future as a major league baseball player.

 

What a friggin waste of an asset that would be. Err, what SSR said.

Asset? What exactly does Cedeno bring to the table?

 

24 year old who has torn up AAA.

 

Could be valuable in a trade if we find a gullible GM...so basically if we try to make a trade with ourselves.

[Backtobanks]

Might as well release Cedeno -- he clearly has no future as a major league baseball player.

 

What a friggin waste of an asset that would be. Err, what SSR said.

Asset? What exactly does Cedeno bring to the table?

 

24 year old who has torn up AAA.

 

Could be valuable in a trade if we find a gullible GM...so basically if we try to make a trade with ourselves.

 

I think Cedeno will be traded because he doesn't seem to have any future with the Cubs. I think the Cedeno experiment along with Murton and Jones goes to prove that some players are not part-time players, they need to play regularly. Of course that's hard to do when another player is outperforming you at your position. I could certainly see Cedeno being part of an off season package for Tejada or Renteria.

[Schwarber Fan]

Welcome to our 5th catching combo of the season!

 

Barrett/Blanco

Barrett/Hill

Bowen/Hill/Soto

Kendall/Hill

Kendall/Blanco

[Electron Blue]

Welcome to our 5th catching combo of the season!

 

Barrett/Blanco

Barrett/Hill

Bowen/Hill/Soto

Kendall/Hill

Kendall/Blanco

 

Pretty sure it's more than that... thought I heard we were at six earlier... lemme thing about it.

 

 

edit: maybe not, can't remember what i heard or was thinking of... :)

Edited August 21, 2007 by Electron Blue

[Schwarber Fan]

Welcome to our 5th catching combo of the season!

 

Barrett/Blanco

Barrett/Hill

Bowen/Hill/Soto

Kendall/Hill

Kendall/Blanco

 

Pretty sure it's more than that... thought I heard we were at six earlier... lemme thing about it.

 

6 catchers - 5 combos

[hawkeyecub]

Rightly or wrongly (mostly wrongly) I think they are dead set that they need an experienced catcher behind the plate as we come down the stretch.

 

Once we acquired Kendall and it was clear that he would be the primary catcher, my hope is that they just felt long-term it would be better for Soto to play everyday at AAA instead of once a week in Chicago. If that's the case and they have big plans for him next year, I don't mind it so much.

[Bote McBoteface]

Welcome to our 5th catching combo of the season!

 

Barrett/Blanco

Barrett/Hill

Bowen/Hill/Soto

Kendall/Hill

Kendall/Blanco

 

Pretty sure it's more than that... thought I heard we were at six earlier... lemme thing about it.

 

6 catchers - 5 combos

 

For a little while it was just Bowen/Hill

[ConstableRabbit]

If the Cubs came out and said "well, we really are in a close race and don't want to risk playing an inexperienced catcher at this time in the season" I'd understand, but we're putting in Henry Blanco to fill that role... it just doesn't make sense.

 

Hopefully Hank tears it up! :roll:

[Schwarber Fan]

Welcome to our 5th catching combo of the season!

 

Barrett/Blanco

Barrett/Hill

Bowen/Hill/Soto

Kendall/Hill

Kendall/Blanco

 

Pretty sure it's more than that... thought I heard we were at six earlier... lemme thing about it.

 

6 catchers - 5 combos

 

For a little while it was just Bowen/Hill

 

that's correct - my bad

[Electron Blue]

Welcome to our 5th catching combo of the season!

 

Barrett/Blanco

Barrett/Hill

Bowen/Hill/Soto

Kendall/Hill

Kendall/Blanco

 

Pretty sure it's more than that... thought I heard we were at six earlier... lemme thing about it.

 

6 catchers - 5 combos

 

For a little while it was just Bowen/Hill

 

that's correct - my bad

 

essentially the same, really. But thanks, cubsin03, now i don't feel crazy for feeling so sure i'd heard something like "6 combos" already.

[Electron Blue]

If the Cubs came out and said "well, we really are in a close race and don't want to risk playing an inexperienced catcher at this time in the season" I'd understand, but we're putting in Henry Blanco to fill that role... it just doesn't make sense.

 

Hopefully Hank tears it up! :roll:

 

who knows, maybe he could put together another month like June '06 (.365/.382/.673/1.055, with 3 HRs) :D

[ConstableRabbit]

If the Cubs came out and said "well, we really are in a close race and don't want to risk playing an inexperienced catcher at this time in the season" I'd understand, but we're putting in Henry Blanco to fill that role... it just doesn't make sense.

 

Hopefully Hank tears it up! :roll:

 

who knows, maybe he could put together another month like June '06 (.365/.382/.673/1.055, with 3 HRs) :D

 

Oh man would I love to eat that crow!

[CyHawk_Cub]

Rightly or wrongly (mostly wrongly) I think they are dead set that they need an experienced catcher behind the plate as we come down the stretch.

 

Once we acquired Kendall and it was clear that he would be the primary catcher, my hope is that they just felt long-term it would be better for Soto to play everyday at AAA instead of once a week in Chicago. If that's the case and they have big plans for him next year, I don't mind it so much.

 

That's a very sensible supposition...thus I have to assume it's wrong, I just doubt our organizational foresight.

[biittner77]

Rightly or wrongly (mostly wrongly) I think they are dead set that they need an experienced catcher behind the plate as we come down the stretch.

 

Once we acquired Kendall and it was clear that he would be the primary catcher, my hope is that they just felt long-term it would be better for Soto to play everyday at AAA instead of once a week in Chicago. If that's the case and they have big plans for him next year, I don't mind it so much.

 

Kepping in mind that this is really the first season where Soto showed this level of offense. Also keep in mind that the PCL is very much a hitters league this year.

 

If the Cubs fall out of the race we'll get to see a what Soto can do. More likely we'll see him make the odd defense replacement appearance. I could see him PH for Blanco regularly as the situation dictates.

[TheDude]

If the Cubs came out and said "well, we really are in a close race and don't want to risk playing an inexperienced catcher at this time in the season" I'd understand, but we're putting in Henry Blanco to fill that role... it just doesn't make sense.

 

Hopefully Hank tears it up! :roll:

 

Are you trying to say that Blanco isn't an experienced catcher? Because Blanco exactly fills the role of your faux quote. How does it not make sense?

[ConstableRabbit]

If the Cubs came out and said "well, we really are in a close race and don't want to risk playing an inexperienced catcher at this time in the season" I'd understand, but we're putting in Henry Blanco to fill that role... it just doesn't make sense.

 

Hopefully Hank tears it up! :roll:

 

Are you trying to say that Blanco isn't an experienced catcher? Because Blanco exactly fills the role of your faux quote. How does it not make sense?

 

Ah, I guess that was confusing. I was trying to say that playing Soto over Kendall full-time would be a "risk", but when you're playing Blanco instead of Soto, it's really not a risk at all. He'd do at least as well as Blanco would and maybe better.

 

I was saying that I could understand the Cubs not wanting to play Soto in a tight race over a good hitting catcher -- the justification on their part being 'the risk of him not performing and potentially costing us a valuable game would not be worth the potential benefit of his development.' That would make some sense. However, if they're going to replace him with BLanco, they might as well give him a few starts with the big-league club -- he won't cost us any more games than Blanco (theres a good chance he could be better than Henry) and he'd get a chance to develop as well.