Floyd & Blanco activated, Cedeno to Iowa, Koyie Hill DFA

[SouthSideRyan]

baseball doesnt change between aaa and mlb. the idea of a aaaa player isnt a very good one.

The level of difficulty does though, and Cedeno isn't good enough to play at this level.

 

How is it possible to be so great on one level and then be not even worthy of a roster spot on the next level. It makes no sense.

 

There are plenty of example to prove it is possible.

 

Are there plenty of examples of guys given up on at the age of 24? Cause if so then those teams were stupid too then.

[Mizzou]

baseball doesnt change between aaa and mlb. the idea of a aaaa player isnt a very good one.

The level of difficulty does though, and Cedeno isn't good enough to play at this level.

 

How is it possible to be so great on one level and then be not even worthy of a roster spot on the next level. It makes no sense.

Come on man, it's not like Cedeno is/was a can't miss prospect or anything. He was pretty good in Rookie ball, then stunk his way through A ball over the course of two and a half years, was alright in AA, very very good in AAA, then awful in his first full season in the big leagues, and looked like crap this year in both stints with the club. So really, in the five levels (Rookie, A, AA, AAA, and MLB) he was great in one of them. Fluke? I have my opinion, you're welcome to yours, but I can't say I agree with it.

[Guest]

baseball doesnt change between aaa and mlb. the idea of a aaaa player isnt a very good one.

The level of difficulty does though, and Cedeno isn't good enough to play at this level.

 

How is it possible to be so great on one level and then be not even worthy of a roster spot on the next level. It makes no sense.

Come on man, it's not like Cedeno is/was a can't miss prospect or anything. He was pretty good in Rookie ball, then stunk his way through A ball over the course of two and a half years, was alright in AA, very very good in AAA, then awful in his first full season in the big leagues, and looked like crap this year in both stints with the club. So really, in the five levels (Rookie, A, AA, AAA, and MLB) he was great in one of them. Fluke? I have my opinion, you're welcome to yours, but I can't say I agree with it.

 

It couldn't possibly be that the Cubs rushed him through those other levels when he wasn't age-appropriate.

 

Ahh, why do I bother? SSR can do this better than me.

[Mizzou]

baseball doesnt change between aaa and mlb. the idea of a aaaa player isnt a very good one.

The level of difficulty does though, and Cedeno isn't good enough to play at this level.

 

How is it possible to be so great on one level and then be not even worthy of a roster spot on the next level. It makes no sense.

Come on man, it's not like Cedeno is/was a can't miss prospect or anything. He was pretty good in Rookie ball, then stunk his way through A ball over the course of two and a half years, was alright in AA, very very good in AAA, then awful in his first full season in the big leagues, and looked like crap this year in both stints with the club. So really, in the five levels (Rookie, A, AA, AAA, and MLB) he was great in one of them. Fluke? I have my opinion, you're welcome to yours, but I can't say I agree with it.

 

It couldn't possibly be that the Cubs rushed him through those other levels when he wasn't age-appropriate.

 

Ahh, why do I bother? SSR can do this better than me.

He was 18 when he started A ball, 21 when he finished. I don't think rushing him was at all an issue.

[Guest]

Average Age:

 

Triple-A: 27.4

Double-A: 25.0

High-A: 23.5

Low-A: 22.3

Short-Season A: 21.9

Rookie: 21.3

 

Ronny:

Triple-A: 22

Double-A: 21

High-A: 20

Low-A: 19

Short-Season: 19

Rookie: 18 (and 56 AB at low-A Lansing)

 

You don't think he was being rushed when he was sucking at A-ball and was still being promoted?

[Mizzou]

You know more about the minors than I do. But what stands out to me is that Ronny basically had one really good year in his six year professional baseball career. Combine that with the fact (or the opinion, whatever) that he looks lost at the plate, on the basepaths, and in the field, and I see no future as a major league baseball player. To each his own though, and I won't be upset if Ronny proves me wrong.

[SouthSideRyan]

baseball doesnt change between aaa and mlb. the idea of a aaaa player isnt a very good one.

The level of difficulty does though, and Cedeno isn't good enough to play at this level.

 

How is it possible to be so great on one level and then be not even worthy of a roster spot on the next level. It makes no sense.

Come on man, it's not like Cedeno is/was a can't miss prospect or anything. He was pretty good in Rookie ball, then stunk his way through A ball over the course of two and a half years, was alright in AA, very very good in AAA, then awful in his first full season in the big leagues, and looked like crap this year in both stints with the club. So really, in the five levels (Rookie, A, AA, AAA, and MLB) he was great in one of them. Fluke? I have my opinion, you're welcome to yours, but I can't say I agree with it.

 

The question is why is it his AAA numbers that are more likely to be a fluke than his major league numbers. It seems you agree that there shouldn't be just a complete 180 from jumping one level, so it either has to be that AAA was a fluke, the majors were a fluke, or his true talent is somewhere in the middle. I tend to believe his true talent is somewhere in the middle.

[Illini Iceman]

Average Age:

 

Triple-A: 27.4

Double-A: 25.0

High-A: 23.5

Low-A: 22.3

Short-Season A: 21.9

Rookie: 21.3

 

Ronny:

Triple-A: 22

Double-A: 21

High-A: 20

Low-A: 19

Short-Season: 19

Rookie: 18 (and 56 AB at low-A Lansing)

 

You don't think he was being rushed when he was sucking at A-ball and was still being promoted?

 

I agree, let's not rush him. Leave him in AAA until he is 27.4 years old and then I am all for giving him another shot at that time.

[Guest]

Yeah, the AA and AAA are distorted by minor league vets. Nevertheless, he was young for a AA or AAA prospect his first season. But go ahead and ignore the meat of my post, even though you know what the point of it was.

[davearm]

Cedeno's AAA numbers suggest he can't possibly be as bad as he has shown in MLB.

 

Meanwhile Cedeno's MLB numbers suggest he can't possibly be as good as he has shown in AAA.

 

Hence, the most logical conclusion is that Cedeno's MLB potential lies somewhere in between his AAA numbers and his MLB numbers.

[UBlink]

Cedeno's AAA numbers suggest he can't possibly be as bad as he has shown in MLB.

 

Meanwhile Cedeno's MLB numbers suggest he can't possibly be as good as he has shown in AAA.

 

Hence, the most logical conclusion is that Cedeno's MLB potential lies somewhere in between his AAA numbers and his MLB numbers.

 

Logic alert!! [-X