reasons we can't win enough games to contend

[larhur]

As much as I enjoy watching Matt, He just won't get enough playing time to get good, Pie, just isn't ready, and Jones isn.t a center fielder, and anyone but Jones in right.

Aramis's wrist

CATCHER

Rich Hill's unability to go dep into games

CATCHER

Z's temper

CATCHER.

A shame as I am in my 70's and a life long Cub fan

[Cynosure]

I hope you're drunk and not trying to be coherent.

[oldcubsfan]

As much as I enjoy watching Matt, He just won't get enough playing time to get good, Pie, just isn't ready, and Jones isn.t a center fielder, and anyone but Jones in right.

Aramis's wrist

CATCHER

Rich Hill's unability to go dep into games

CATCHER

Z's temper

CATCHER.

A shame as I am in my 70's and a life long Cub fan

 

Too bad you don't realize Kendall is fine and can hit.

[CUBZ99]

Rich Hill avgs. over 6 IP per game started and is tied for 29th in Quality starts. Its hard to say he doesn't go long into ball games.

[Electron Blue]

As much as I enjoy watching Matt, He just won't get enough playing time to get good, Pie, just isn't ready, and Jones isn.t a center fielder, and anyone but Jones in right.

Aramis's wrist

CATCHER

Rich Hill's unability to go dep into games

CATCHER

Z's temper

CATCHER.

A shame as I am in my 70's and a life long Cub fan

 

Aramis was just day-to-day with the wrist. We won't know if he's a reason we can't win for a couple weeks. And citing Z's temper? It sounds like you're just looking for reasons for pessimism.

[RynoRules]

Team in contention yet pessimism reigns.

 

And irrational pessimism at that.

[UMFan83]

This will balance out the set of optimistic posts today.

[LetsPlayTwo]

OUR COBS WONT WIN ANYTHING!

[Electron Blue]

For better or worse, a fanbase's optimism is about as powerful as it's pessimism. That is, it's useless. :) just enjoy the game.

[flynnhicks03]

Aramis was just day-to-day with the wrist. We won't know if he's a reason we can't win for a couple weeks. And citing Z's temper? It sounds like you're just looking for reasons for pessimism.

 

I don't think you need to look too hard for reasons for pessimism right now. We've got problems, and I'm very concerned.

[Larry Horse]

Team in contention yet pessimism reigns.

 

And irrational pessimism at that.

 

A team that hasn't won a World Series in 99 years, and pessimism is labeled "irrational".

 

And a team "in contention" in the worst division in baseball.

 

That's beautiful.

[Electron Blue]

Aramis was just day-to-day with the wrist. We won't know if he's a reason we can't win for a couple weeks. And citing Z's temper? It sounds like you're just looking for reasons for pessimism.

 

I don't think you need to look too hard for reasons for pessimism right now. We've got problems, and I'm very concerned.

 

if there are so many reasons to make the case for this teams's suckiness, it shouldn't be hard to leave out short-sighted, illogical, and emotion-over-stats reasons. I'm not arguing against the OP's premise, I'm just campaigning for more reasonable discussion.

Edited August 15, 2007 by Electron Blue

[Electron Blue]

Team in contention yet pessimism reigns.

 

And irrational pessimism at that.

 

A team that hasn't won a World Series in 99 years, and pessimism is labeled "irrational".

 

And a team "in contention" in the worst division in baseball.

 

That's beautiful.

 

that's an over emotional sentiment around here. The fact that we haven't won a WS has very very little to do with the '07 team's struggles -- that's superstition.

 

And you win a WS by making the playoffs. You get to the playoffs by winning a spot. You win a spot by putting yourself "in contention" for the stretch run. That's why we are in a position deserving of some optimism.

[Larry Horse]

Team in contention yet pessimism reigns.

 

And irrational pessimism at that.

 

A team that hasn't won a World Series in 99 years, and pessimism is labeled "irrational".

 

And a team "in contention" in the worst division in baseball.

 

That's beautiful.

 

that's an over emotional sentiment around here. The fact that we haven't won a WS has very very little to do with the '07 team's struggles -- that's superstition.

 

And you win a WS by making the playoffs. You get to the playoffs by winning a spot. You win a spot by putting yourself "in contention" for the stretch run. That's why we are in a position deserving of some optimism.

 

Yes, the Cubs have put themselves "in contention" by beating up on bad teams during the weakest part of their schedule, which is what they are supposed to do. And what's the explanation for the first two months of the season, when they dug this current hole that they still haven't got out of?

 

And you completely missed my point about pessimism. Pessimism and a Cub fan goes together like peanut butter and jelly. Anyone who thinks that we are going to see a World Series title with this team is more than welcome to, but it isn't very logical. It's not an "emotional sentiment", it's facing facts.

[rickrolled]

As much as I enjoy watching Matt, He just won't get enough playing time to get good, Pie, just isn't ready, and Jones isn.t a center fielder, and anyone but Jones in right.

Aramis's wrist

CATCHER

Rich Hill's unability to go dep into games

CATCHER

Z's temper

CATCHER.

A shame as I am in my 70's and a life long Cub fan

 

sweet, it's Cobs part 2

[Balsa]

Is this what happens when the Cubs have a good stretch?

 

I mean where do these people come from?

[Omar]

This reminds me of the "The reason our cobs won't win anything" thread.

[CubinNY]

This reminds me of the "The reason our cobs won't win anything" thread.

Same author.

 

Go Cobs!!!

 

Franswothr sucks.

[Electron Blue]

Team in contention yet pessimism reigns.

 

And irrational pessimism at that.

 

A team that hasn't won a World Series in 99 years, and pessimism is labeled "irrational".

 

And a team "in contention" in the worst division in baseball.

 

That's beautiful.

 

that's an over emotional sentiment around here. The fact that we haven't won a WS has very very little to do with the '07 team's struggles -- that's superstition.

 

And you win a WS by making the playoffs. You get to the playoffs by winning a spot. You win a spot by putting yourself "in contention" for the stretch run. That's why we are in a position deserving of some optimism.

 

Yes, the Cubs have put themselves "in contention" by beating up on bad teams during the weakest part of their schedule, which is what they are supposed to do. And what's the explanation for the first two months of the season, when they dug this current hole that they still haven't got out of?

 

And you completely missed my point about pessimism. Pessimism and a Cub fan goes together like peanut butter and jelly. Anyone who thinks that we are going to see a World Series title with this team is more than welcome to, but it isn't very logical. It's not an "emotional sentiment", it's facing facts.

 

I'll agree with this paragraph to the point that this isn't a great team and a WS should not be expected (not that one is impossibly out of reach, though). But this paragraph doesn't even address my previous comment about the "emotional sentiment." This team is not good because it scores too few runs and is dealing with injuries and a lack of power.

 

IMO, the pessimism in this thread (and scattered throughout other threads) is irrational. The fact that you equate pessimism with Cubs fandom is perhaps true, but not a reason for pessimism. If we fail to win a WS this year, it's not because we've failed for 99 years before. That's all I'm saying: there are many reasons to be frustrated about this year's team, but yes, if you bring the whole "woe-is-us, we never win anything" into it you have became irrationally pessimistic.

[Ender]

No team in the NL central should be contending, one of them has to win it though so there is no reason to be pessimistic.

[imb]

I like the word "unability", myself.

[J.R.]

Sosa, Farnsworht the headcase, sosa, a second base platoon, Sosa, Bako, sosa, Baker, sosa, injuries, Sosa, sosa, sosa,sosa,sosa

[jersey cubs fan]

Team in contention yet pessimism reigns.

 

And irrational pessimism at that.

 

A team that hasn't won a World Series in 99 years, and pessimism is labeled "irrational".

 

And a team "in contention" in the worst division in baseball.

 

That's beautiful.

 

that's an over emotional sentiment around here. The fact that we haven't won a WS has very very little to do with the '07 team's struggles -- that's superstition.

 

And you win a WS by making the playoffs. You get to the playoffs by winning a spot. You win a spot by putting yourself "in contention" for the stretch run. That's why we are in a position deserving of some optimism.

 

Yes, the Cubs have put themselves "in contention" by beating up on bad teams during the weakest part of their schedule, which is what they are supposed to do. And what's the explanation for the first two months of the season, when they dug this current hole that they still haven't got out of?

 

And you completely missed my point about pessimism. Pessimism and a Cub fan goes together like peanut butter and jelly. Anyone who thinks that we are going to see a World Series title with this team is more than welcome to, but it isn't very logical. It's not an "emotional sentiment", it's facing facts.

 

I'll agree with this paragraph to the point that this isn't a great team and a WS should not be expected (not that one is impossibly out of reach, though). But this paragraph doesn't even address my previous comment about the "emotional sentiment." This team is not good because it scores too few runs and is dealing with injuries and a lack of power.

 

IMO, the pessimism in this thread (and scattered throughout other threads) is irrational. The fact that you equate pessimism with Cubs fandom is perhaps true, but not a reason for pessimism. If we fail to win a WS this year, it's not because we've failed for 99 years before. That's all I'm saying: there are many reasons to be frustrated about this year's team, but yes, if you bring the whole "woe-is-us, we never win anything" into it you have became irrationally pessimistic.

 

I don't see any justification for that accusation.

[USSoccer]

I don't see how anyone isn't justified in being pessimistic about the travelling circus of failure that is the Cubs.