BOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!! (Barroid 756)

[Skyballer]

PLEASE STOP, Barry Bonds is the greatest player in the history of Baseball.

The only proof of Barry's alleged use of *I Won't say it*, can't be proven other than unintentional use.

Furthermore we don't know that these drugs help you hit HR.

JUST STOP.

[jersey cubs fan]

PLEASE STOP, Barry Bonds is the greatest player in the history of Baseball.

The only proof of Barry's alleged use of *I Won't say it*, can't be proven other than unintentional use.

Furthermore we don't know that these drugs help you hit HR.

JUST STOP.

 

what?

[Omar]

I had a bold prediction that Dusty Baker would somehow find his way on deck.

 

:(

[Soul]

I'll always hold Bonds suspect for his steroid use, however on this day I think it's a good idea to point out a couple (albeit obvious) things:

 

1) Barry's talent as a baseball player is not suspect. Greatest baseball player of my generation, IMHO.

 

2) Barry broke the record last night, regardless of how I feel about it. I accept that.

 

3) Despite the title of this thread, I wasn't booing when he did it. I was actually entertained by it, and I'm glad it's now over.

 

4) I thought Barry was quite gracious in the aftermath. I haven't seen Barry that "gregarious" too many times. Of course why wouldn't he be? It's a huge weight off his shoulders too.

 

5) I noted the commish's absence, and enjoyed Hank's little video. Hank's stance has never been an issue for Barry from what I understand. I think that controversy was largely made up and should be put to rest.

 

6) Barry's daughter is hot. (I think the older one was his older daughter, right? If not, then his wife is hot) :)

 

I think she is either 14 or 15 years old....javascript:emoticon(':-

Whistle

 

What? She looks at least 20! I feel dirty now :oops:

 

Dateline NBC will be arriving shortly

 

Hahaha. To Catch a Predator 8: stupid Cubs fan gets killed by Barry, caught on tape.

[Wilson A2000]

I don't know why this isn't asterisked immediately... Bonds has admitted to using the "cream" and the "clear", which we know are steroids.

 

Even taking his word at face value that he did it unintentionally (and generously assuming he hasn't taken any other performances enhancing drugs), he still broke the rules and the law.

 

http://sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2004/12/03/MNGGFA0UDU65.DTL

 

How is that breaking the law if someone gives you something illegal that you didn't know you were taking (in my opinion Bonds knew he was taking them or else he would have sued Greg Anderson because his life expectancy is going to go downhill)?

[Wilson A2000]

That article really makes Bonds look bad. One the one hand Bonds says that the flaxseed oil and arthritis medication didn't work at all. Then why did Giambi and Sheffield start taking the same stuff that Barry took, the stuff that didn't work when they themselves said that they wanted to take it only after seeing what it did to Barry?

[Soul]

PLEASE STOP, Barry Bonds is the greatest player in the history of Baseball.

The only proof of Barry's alleged use of *I Won't say it*, can't be proven other than unintentional use.

Furthermore we don't know that these drugs help you hit HR.

JUST STOP.

 

what?

 

+1. Eh?

[Skyballer]

PLEASE STOP, Barry Bonds is the greatest player in the history of Baseball.

The only proof of Barry's alleged use of *I Won't say it*, can't be proven other than unintentional use.

Furthermore we don't know that these drugs help you hit HR.

JUST STOP.

 

what?

 

+1. Eh?

Case in point, it takes more than muscles to hit Homeruns.

how long was Barry allegedly on the drug? We don't know

Did Barry use anything other than "the Clear" or "the Cream" for any legitamite period of time?

We don't know.

So just stop accusing Bonds of everything that you can't prove damnit.

[Productive Outs]

PLEASE STOP, Barry Bonds is the greatest player in the history of Baseball.

The only proof of Barry's alleged use of *I Won't say it*, can't be proven other than unintentional use.

Furthermore we don't know that these drugs help you hit HR.

JUST STOP.

 

what?

 

+1. Eh?

Case in point, it takes more than muscles to hit Homeruns.

how long was Barry allegedly on the drug? We don't know

Did Barry use anything other than "the Clear" or "the Cream" for any legitamite period of time?

We don't know.

So just stop accusing Bonds of everything that you can't prove damnit.

 

is bonds your uncle or something? seriously, you're not in any place to tell other users what they can or cannot do.

[Jazz]

PLEASE STOP, Barry Bonds is the greatest player in the history of Baseball.

The only proof of Barry's alleged use of *I Won't say it*, can't be proven other than unintentional use.

Furthermore we don't know that these drugs help you hit HR.

JUST STOP.

 

what?

 

+1. Eh?

Case in point, it takes more than muscles to hit Homeruns.

how long was Barry allegedly on the drug? We don't know

Did Barry use anything other than "the Clear" or "the Cream" for any legitamite period of time?

We don't know.

So just stop accusing Bonds of everything that you can't prove damnit.

 

lololol

 

first of all, barry bonds, big fat cheater or not, is NOT the greatest player in the history of baseball. no way.

 

2nd of all, you have to be a naive to think that Bonds did not use some kind of performance enhancement, whether that led to his significant increase in power i can't tell you, but I'd be willing to bet it did.

 

And now we've learned of this armor that he wore that is illegal, but since he got it grandfathered in, he can use it. How much of his success can be attributed to that?

[Abe Frohman]

I won't defend steroid use, but I won't condemn Bonds for it either (I will however condemn him for being a jack@$$), mainly because I was cheering for Sosa when he was hitting 60+ through those years. They have the same cloud over their heads. A lot of people are at fault for steroids becoming what they did in baseball, including major league baseball itself. Now they're being forced to deal with the problem they helped create.

 

I can equate Sammy Sosa's Cub career with my childhood belief in Santa Claus - when it was happening (believing in Santa and enjoying Sosa's HRs) I thought it was real and it was awesome. Now that I know it was not, it isn't quite as thrilling and I kinda feel like a dumbass.

 

That's the way it is, unfortunately.

 

Furthermore we don't know that these drugs help you hit HR.

JUST STOP.

 

We don't know that performance-enhancing drugs help enhance your performance? Really? Is this for real?

 

You honestly don't think that adding 20-30 pounds of solid muscle is going to have ANY kind of affect on your strength and ability to drive the ball further? Really? Wow.

Edited August 8, 2007 by Abe Frohman

[SeldomSeen]

PLEASE STOP, Barry Bonds is the greatest player in the history of Baseball.

The only proof of Barry's alleged use of *I Won't say it*, can't be proven other than unintentional use.

Furthermore we don't know that these drugs help you hit HR.

JUST STOP.

 

what?

 

+1. Eh?

Case in point, it takes more than muscles to hit Homeruns.

how long was Barry allegedly on the drug? We don't know

Did Barry use anything other than "the Clear" or "the Cream" for any legitamite period of time?

We don't know.

So just stop accusing Bonds of everything that you can't prove damnit.

Nickolai???

[Wilson A2000]

PLEASE STOP, Barry Bonds is the greatest player in the history of Baseball.

The only proof of Barry's alleged use of *I Won't say it*, can't be proven other than unintentional use.

Furthermore we don't know that these drugs help you hit HR.

JUST STOP.

 

what?

 

+1. Eh?

Case in point, it takes more than muscles to hit Homeruns.

how long was Barry allegedly on the drug? We don't know

Did Barry use anything other than "the Clear" or "the Cream" for any legitamite period of time?

We don't know.

So just stop accusing Bonds of everything that you can't prove damnit.

 

Yes Bonds was on insulin, EPO, and horse/cow steroids in addition to the cream and clear from at least 2001-2003, the biggest years of his career. You don't think we know? The evidence is far beyond a reasonable doubt. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/magazine/03/06/growth0313/index.html

 

Yes it takes more than muscles to hit homeruns. But when you add steroids to his already hall of fame ability, you get monster numbers. These numbers skyrocketed after hsi career was winding down. Why did he take them? He was jealous of Sammy and McGwire.

[Skyballer]

PLEASE STOP, Barry Bonds is the greatest player in the history of Baseball.

The only proof of Barry's alleged use of *I Won't say it*, can't be proven other than unintentional use.

Furthermore we don't know that these drugs help you hit HR.

JUST STOP.

 

what?

 

+1. Eh?

Case in point, it takes more than muscles to hit Homeruns.

how long was Barry allegedly on the drug? We don't know

Did Barry use anything other than "the Clear" or "the Cream" for any legitamite period of time?

We don't know.

So just stop accusing Bonds of everything that you can't prove damnit.

 

Yes Bonds was on insulin, EPO, and horse/cow steroids in addition to the cream and clear from at least 2001-2003, the biggest years of his career. You don't think we know? The evidence is far beyond a reasonable doubt. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/magazine/03/06/growth0313/index.html

 

Yes it takes more than muscles to hit homeruns. But when you add steroids to his already hall of fame ability, you get monster numbers. These numbers skyrocketed after hsi career was winding down. Why did he take them? He was jealous of Sammy and McGwire.

Bottom Line: He NEVER failed a steroid test in his life.

He's the only player in both the 400-400 club and 500-500 club, that's amazing.

I'm ending all arguements on my side.

[Wilson A2000]

Well that would be because as soon as the MLB began testing players for steroids, Bonds was using the clear, which makes what Bonds was taking undetectable.

 

The MLB does not and has never tested for human growth hormone.

[inari]

PLEASE STOP, Barry Bonds is the greatest player in the history of Baseball.

The only proof of Barry's alleged use of *I Won't say it*, can't be proven other than unintentional use.

Furthermore we don't know that these drugs help you hit HR.

JUST STOP.

 

what?

 

+1. Eh?

Case in point, it takes more than muscles to hit Homeruns.

how long was Barry allegedly on the drug? We don't know

Did Barry use anything other than "the Clear" or "the Cream" for any legitamite period of time?

We don't know.

So just stop accusing Bonds of everything that you can't prove damnit.

 

Yes Bonds was on insulin, EPO, and horse/cow steroids in addition to the cream and clear from at least 2001-2003, the biggest years of his career. You don't think we know? The evidence is far beyond a reasonable doubt. http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2006/magazine/03/06/growth0313/index.html

 

Yes it takes more than muscles to hit homeruns. But when you add steroids to his already hall of fame ability, you get monster numbers. These numbers skyrocketed after hsi career was winding down. Why did he take them? He was jealous of Sammy and McGwire.

Bottom Line: He NEVER failed a steroid test in his life.

He's the only player in both the 400-400 club and 500-500 club, that's amazing.

I'm ending all arguements on my side.

 

He admitted it. That's more than enough for me.

 

He'd be one of the best of all time without steroids. He wouldn't have the record.

[jersey cubs fan]

bottom line, rhetorical question

[Derwood]

Bottom Line: He NEVER failed a steroid test in his life.

He's the only player in both the 400-400 club and 500-500 club, that's amazing.

I'm ending all arguements on my side.

 

i would love to hear your thoughts on Pete Rose

[OleMissCub]

PLEASE STOP, Barry Bonds is the greatest player in the history of Baseball.

 

I could name a dozen that were better. Whether it be Nickelback or Bonds, you are completely living in the now and appear to have no ability to look at things in perspective.

 

The only proof of Barry's alleged use of *I Won't say it*, can't be proven other than unintentional use.

Furthermore we don't know that these drugs help you hit HR.

JUST STOP.

 

You're still failing to realize the main issue here. It isn't about the drugs helping Barry hit homers via brute force, etc (although I do think bulk helps i.e Bret Boone). What the drugs did was provide him with increased stamina that prolonged his career and allowed him to achieve this milestone.

[ConstableRabbit]

Not to get all political, but in case anyone was interested, Nancy Pelosi praised Bonds ("Tonight, Barry Bonds etched his name into baseball's history books and took his rightful place among sport's immortals,"), this makes sense, most likely because she's SF's rep, and most SF citizens probably like Bonds.

 

Interestingly, the President did not call Barry. Tony Snow said that he went to bed early and probably didn't watch the game. There were also some backhanded jabs at steroid use.

 

 

Also, anyone see the cover of the New York Post?

 

http://www.nypost.com/

[Transmogrified Tiger]

A DOZEN players better than Bonds? Really?

[Productive Outs]

I could name a dozen that were better.

 

just for fun, name your 12

[rocket]

I could name a dozen that were better.

 

just for fun, name your 12

 

babe ruth and ted williams are the only ones that you can make an argument for.

[Jazz]

I could name a dozen that were better.

 

just for fun, name your 12

 

babe ruth and ted williams are the only ones that you can make an argument for.

 

i'd throw gehrig, cobb, young, mays, aaron, wagner, and musial into the mix. Not sure how i'd rank them though, no good at that.

[SouthSideRyan]

http://www.freewebs.com/baseballhound/photos/aaron.jpg

 

http://i.a.cnn.net/si/2005/writers/tom_verducci/01/18/steroids.amphetamines/p1_aaron.jpg

 

Head growth.