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This really bothers me. Canning is going to pay a billion dollars for the revenue stream that Cubs fans generate and because they pay so much at the outset, theyre going to want to set on a pile of money while having only a moderately high payroll. And if any of you werent aware Seligs ownership of the Brewers is stigmatized by Seligs promise to spend on payroll in return for the public funding a new stadium. Once the stadium was built they pared back payroll. They have some homegrown prospects that are yielding success now but that doesnt change the fact that Canning was part of the ownership group that broke that promise. And so now that same ownership group is going to use the commissioners office to get their hands on the money generated by Cubs fans. Cronieism sucks.

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In baseball partnership groups, the limited partners really have no say.

This guy's group is local, has deep pockets and is the type of group baseball wants. that being said, anyone buying the team will run it like a business. No one spends big dollars to lose a lot of money.

This guy is no fool and has been very successful. Google him before you trash him.

 

http://www.redorbit.com/news/business/541838/madison_dearborn_founder_builds_team_of_assets_since_1993_company/index.html

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In baseball partnership groups, the limited partners really have no say.

This guy's group is local, has deep pockets and is the type of group baseball wants. that being said, anyone buying the team will run it like a business. No one spends big dollars to lose a lot of money.

This guy is no fool and has been very successful. Google him before you trash him.

 

http://www.redorbit.com/news/business/541838/madison_dearborn_founder_builds_team_of_assets_since_1993_company/index.html

 

Agreed, of all the realistic choices he's probably the one I would support the most at this stage.

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In baseball partnership groups, the limited partners really have no say.

This guy's group is local, has deep pockets and is the type of group baseball wants. that being said, anyone buying the team will run it like a business. No one spends big dollars to lose a lot of money.

This guy is no fool and has been very successful. Google him before you trash him.

 

http://www.redorbit.com/news/business/541838/madison_dearborn_founder_builds_team_of_assets_since_1993_company/index.html

 

I like how you think I know nothing about him. Ive seen his profile at the website for where he works. I realize people want to make money after spending a ton on a team. I was very clear about making this point in my initial post so Im not sure why you felt compelled to point this out. And actually, there area probably several ownership groups that would be passable but none of them are connected with the commissioner. And if this guys sucks, its not like he is likely going away any time soon. In fact, if he sucks thats probably because he is making so much money off the fans that theres little incentive to not suck.

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I don't really care who owns the Cubs as long as he/she/they

 

1. Puts an emphisis on modern analysis and player development.

 

2. Puts a product on the field that is competitive in the NL (not within the division).

 

3. Fires Jim Hendry on day 1.

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I don't really care who owns the Cubs as long as he/she/they

 

1. Puts an emphisis on modern analysis and player development.

 

2. Puts a product on the field that is competitive in the NL (not within the division).

 

3. Fires Jim Hendry on day 1.

 

That's not his job, that's the job of the team president.

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I don't really care who owns the Cubs as long as he/she/they

 

1. Puts an emphisis on modern analysis and player development.

 

2. Puts a product on the field that is competitive in the NL (not within the division).

 

3. Fires Jim Hendry on day 1.

 

That's not his job, that's the job of the team president.

 

Noted

 

Amend point three to read: Hires a team president that fires Jim Hendry on day 1.

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I don't really care who owns the Cubs as long as he/she/they

 

1. Puts an emphisis on modern analysis and player development.

 

2. Puts a product on the field that is competitive in the NL (not within the division).

 

3. Fires Jim Hendry on day 1.

 

That's not his job, that's the job of the team president.

 

Noted

 

Amend point three to read: Hires a team president that fires Jim Hendry on day 1.

 

Depending on how much control he wants, he might be team president but given all his other financial ventures, I'm assuming he'll hire someone to be team president.

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I don't really care who owns the Cubs as long as he/she/they

 

1. Puts an emphisis on modern analysis and player development.

 

2. Puts a product on the field that is competitive in the NL (not within the division).

 

3. Fires Jim Hendry on day 1.

 

I've given this post my full endorsement.

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Typically, wealthy people have a freakin huge ego.

 

Yes, the new owner of the Cubs will want to make money.

 

However, the ego boost that owning the Cubs that win a World Championshiop would be worth millions to someone.

 

I don't think you can put a dollar amount on something like that.

 

 

We just need to hope that the new owner has one of those huge egos :)

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I do a lot of work with his company. This proposed acquisition has been speculated at my office since the Trib announced the Cubs would be sold. He is wealth beyond wealth. Obviously they're not going to go Yankee and bid highest for talent, but they won't be cheap and work by the fringe. I don't think it's such a bad thing that, should Canning get the Cubs, we find ourselves with an owner who is already highly regarded in the owners' fraternity, so to speak.

But don't worry. This guy's not buying the Cubs and quitting his day job, so don't think that he's going to start slashing quality to stretch the fans' dollars.

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THE GOAT IS INDIFFERENT TO OWNERSHIP

 

The Goat forgave us long ago. I asked him 8-)

 

Now we're living on the curse of dunkin' donuts Hendry and 1950's stats analysis.

 

I can't immediately criticize Canning, he was part of the ownership group that emphasized building the minor league system for Milwaukee. Look what it's done.

 

Christ they bring up some guy like Braun as an afterthought and he hits better than anything we've seen from Iowa in 20 years. We could use that kind of fresh attitude around here. I'll definitely be reserving judgement on this guy for now.

 

For the record, though I'm with Vance -- I'd still like to see Cuban. Hope against hope, I'll hold out until the end.

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I'm reserving judgement on this guy, but fwiw, I still want Cuban.

 

I think just about everyone is in Cuban's corner, but I don't think he's a realistic option. He's not the type of guy the other owners want as a part of MLB.

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i just don't want steve stone anywhere near our front office. whoever keeps him out of a position of power is alright by me.

 

So if Hitler would have kept Steve Stone out of office, would he have been ok with you? :wink:

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i just don't want steve stone anywhere near our front office. whoever keeps him out of a position of power is alright by me.

 

I totally agree with you. His self promotion is getting really funny to listen to.

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i just don't want steve stone anywhere near our front office. whoever keeps him out of a position of power is alright by me.

 

I never considered Stone a serious GM option, but yeah I'm also not keen on him being our GM, because he's never done it before. We need someone who knows what he's doing, not a deadbeat like Ed Lynch, and not a rookie like Hendry was (and still is by many people's reckoning).

 

Just my 2 cents. I'd still like to see Stone back in the booth at some point, I always enjoyed his color commentary.

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i just don't want steve stone anywhere near our front office. whoever keeps him out of a position of power is alright by me.

 

I never considered Stone a serious GM option, but yeah I'm also not keen on him being our GM, because he's never done it before. We need someone who knows what he's doing, not a deadbeat like Ed Lynch, and not a rookie like Hendry was (and still is by many people's reckoning).

 

Just my 2 cents. I'd still like to see Stone back in the booth at some point, I always enjoyed his color commentary.

 

I don't understand why people think first-time GMs are a bad idea. There's enough retread GMs out there to convince me I'd be more than happy with a guy who has never done it before.

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i just don't want steve stone anywhere near our front office. whoever keeps him out of a position of power is alright by me.

 

I never considered Stone a serious GM option, but yeah I'm also not keen on him being our GM, because he's never done it before. We need someone who knows what he's doing, not a deadbeat like Ed Lynch, and not a rookie like Hendry was (and still is by many people's reckoning).

 

Just my 2 cents. I'd still like to see Stone back in the booth at some point, I always enjoyed his color commentary.

 

I don't understand why people think first-time GMs are a bad idea. There's enough retread GMs out there to convince me I'd be more than happy with a guy who has never done it before.

 

Theo Epstein was a first-time GM and brought a title to Boston. That should convince anyone that a first-time GM is no worse than an old veteran. Really, why should our attitude about GMs be any different than players. Just because a guy has experience doesn't mean that he doesn't suck.

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i just don't want steve stone anywhere near our front office. whoever keeps him out of a position of power is alright by me.

 

I never considered Stone a serious GM option, but yeah I'm also not keen on him being our GM, because he's never done it before. We need someone who knows what he's doing, not a deadbeat like Ed Lynch, and not a rookie like Hendry was (and still is by many people's reckoning).

 

Just my 2 cents. I'd still like to see Stone back in the booth at some point, I always enjoyed his color commentary.

 

I don't understand why people think first-time GMs are a bad idea. There's enough retread GMs out there to convince me I'd be more than happy with a guy who has never done it before.

 

Theo Epstein was a first-time GM and brought a title to Boston. That should convince anyone that a first-time GM is no worse than an old veteran. Really, why should our attitude about GMs be any different than players. Just because a guy has experience doesn't mean that he doesn't suck.

 

Because we've been down that road before and have proven we can't pick a rook who has a clue.

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i just don't want steve stone anywhere near our front office. whoever keeps him out of a position of power is alright by me.

 

I never considered Stone a serious GM option, but yeah I'm also not keen on him being our GM, because he's never done it before. We need someone who knows what he's doing, not a deadbeat like Ed Lynch, and not a rookie like Hendry was (and still is by many people's reckoning).

 

Just my 2 cents. I'd still like to see Stone back in the booth at some point, I always enjoyed his color commentary.

 

I don't understand why people think first-time GMs are a bad idea. There's enough retread GMs out there to convince me I'd be more than happy with a guy who has never done it before.

 

Theo Epstein was a first-time GM and brought a title to Boston. That should convince anyone that a first-time GM is no worse than an old veteran. Really, why should our attitude about GMs be any different than players. Just because a guy has experience doesn't mean that he doesn't suck.

 

Because we've been down that road before and have proven we can't pick a rook who has a clue.

 

Who's "we"? New ownership means different people making those decisions.

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