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mark cuban is an absolute joke. he does less with more every single year. he gets his annoying, jock sniffing hands in his teams business and ruins their chance at a championship every year. this is the same guy who had like 10 small forwards on the same team because he liked all of them. this is the same guy that let the nba's 2 time mvp (shoulda been 3 time) steve nash walk. this is the same guy that signed erik dampier to th max.

 

given the fact that the cubs actually make a substantial amount of money, i can only imagine what kind of moronic decisions he would make as the cubs owner. you can guarantee mo vaughn would've been a cub.

 

give me someone like colangelo who actually knows something about the game of baseball rather than a loudmouth moron like cuban.

 

the players only want him because he's known for being the biggest tool ever. he possesses no athletic ability, so anyone who does gets anything they want from him. the mavs team plane and clubhouse are far and away the nicest in all of sports. he spoils his players because he has a man crush on them.

 

cuban would make us exciting, but i can just about guarantee he wouldn't bring us a ws championship

 

Probably the worst post I've read here in a while and that's saying a lot.

 

other than "contending" what has cuban done? he makes a fool of himself publicly by running his ignorant mouth. no owner in all of professional sports is despised more by his peers than he is. he accrues more league fines than anyone else...oh yeah, his teams perennially disappoint. in fact, two of the biggest choke jobs in sports history (outside ny v. bos) have come at the hands of teams in his control in the last two years. the only thing good about mark cuban is watching that stupid look on his face as the teams he puts together gag in the clutch. if he didn't baby his players and let someone who knew a thing or two about run the team (without his constant moronic interjection), maybe they'd get their act together.

 

cuban would bring us a world of attention, and he'd spend the money to keep us in the mix, but the guy's a jinx and we already got one of those working against us, we don't need another.

 

We shouldn't want Cuban because he's a jinx? I like how your first post criticizes the Mavericks, even though they had the best record in the NBA this year.

 

Laughable logic.

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mark cuban is an absolute joke. he does less with more every single year. he gets his annoying, jock sniffing hands in his teams business and ruins their chance at a championship every year. this is the same guy who had like 10 small forwards on the same team because he liked all of them. this is the same guy that let the nba's 2 time mvp (shoulda been 3 time) steve nash walk. this is the same guy that signed erik dampier to th max.

 

given the fact that the cubs actually make a substantial amount of money, i can only imagine what kind of moronic decisions he would make as the cubs owner. you can guarantee mo vaughn would've been a cub.

 

give me someone like colangelo who actually knows something about the game of baseball rather than a loudmouth moron like cuban.

 

the players only want him because he's known for being the biggest tool ever. he possesses no athletic ability, so anyone who does gets anything they want from him. the mavs team plane and clubhouse are far and away the nicest in all of sports. he spoils his players because he has a man crush on them.

 

cuban would make us exciting, but i can just about guarantee he wouldn't bring us a ws championship

 

Probably the worst post I've read here in a while and that's saying a lot.

 

other than "contending" what has cuban done? he makes a fool of himself publicly by running his ignorant mouth. no owner in all of professional sports is despised more by his peers than he is. he accrues more league fines than anyone else...oh yeah, his teams perennially disappoint. in fact, two of the biggest choke jobs in sports history (outside ny v. bos) have come at the hands of teams in his control in the last two years. the only thing good about mark cuban is watching that stupid look on his face as the teams he puts together gag in the clutch. if he didn't baby his players and let someone who knew a thing or two about run the team (without his constant moronic interjection), maybe they'd get their act together.

 

cuban would bring us a world of attention, and he'd spend the money to keep us in the mix, but the guy's a jinx and we already got one of those working against us, we don't need another.

 

We shouldn't want Cuban because he's a jinx? I like how your first post criticizes the Mavericks, even though they had the best record in the NBA this year.

 

Laughable logic.

 

From the vitriol in his posts, it's quite obvious he has a beef with Cuban. What it is, I don't know. But his posts read like a rant from someone who makes up his mind he doesn't like another and then looks for proof to support that.

 

Cuban has turned the Mavericks from doormats to a force to be reckoned with. True, they haven't been able to win it all, but what they have done on the court over the past few seasons speaks for itself. There are a lot of teams that would love to have that level of success.

 

I personally would love for the Cubs to end the year with the best record in baseball, even if we did lose in the first round of the postseason. Especially if I knew that year after year we would be among the best with the opportunity to win each and every year. That is the position Cuban has place the Mavs.

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mark cuban is an absolute joke. he does less with more every single year. he gets his annoying, jock sniffing hands in his teams business and ruins their chance at a championship every year. this is the same guy who had like 10 small forwards on the same team because he liked all of them. this is the same guy that let the nba's 2 time mvp (shoulda been 3 time) steve nash walk. this is the same guy that signed erik dampier to th max.

 

given the fact that the cubs actually make a substantial amount of money, i can only imagine what kind of moronic decisions he would make as the cubs owner. you can guarantee mo vaughn would've been a cub.

 

give me someone like colangelo who actually knows something about the game of baseball rather than a loudmouth moron like cuban.

 

the players only want him because he's known for being the biggest tool ever. he possesses no athletic ability, so anyone who does gets anything they want from him. the mavs team plane and clubhouse are far and away the nicest in all of sports. he spoils his players because he has a man crush on them.

 

cuban would make us exciting, but i can just about guarantee he wouldn't bring us a ws championship

 

Probably the worst post I've read here in a while and that's saying a lot.

 

other than "contending" what has cuban done? he makes a fool of himself publicly by running his ignorant mouth. no owner in all of professional sports is despised more by his peers than he is. he accrues more league fines than anyone else...oh yeah, his teams perennially disappoint. in fact, two of the biggest choke jobs in sports history (outside ny v. bos) have come at the hands of teams in his control in the last two years. the only thing good about mark cuban is watching that stupid look on his face as the teams he puts together gag in the clutch. if he didn't baby his players and let someone who knew a thing or two about run the team (without his constant moronic interjection), maybe they'd get their act together.

 

cuban would bring us a world of attention, and he'd spend the money to keep us in the mix, but the guy's a jinx and we already got one of those working against us, we don't need another.

 

We shouldn't want Cuban because he's a jinx? I like how your first post criticizes the Mavericks, even though they had the best record in the NBA this year.

 

Laughable logic.

 

I'm far from the foremost expert on NBA ball, but I know that he turned around a team that was the laughing stock pf the NBA at the time. He was able to regain a fanbase in Dallas, get a stadium built for what was a lowly franchise & have players want to come to the Mavericks and play.

 

Edit to add:

 

laughing stock = constant losing, no fan base and the Roy Tarpley saga

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wow, what the hell is wrong with some of the posters on here???

 

 

Ok, I'm not sure if you folks (the ones who are outspokenly Anti-Cuban) remember, but this team hasn't won a championship in almost 100 years. We have been owned by some terrible owners in the past, none of which could ever produce a quality winning team for more than 2-3 years in a row. And now all of a sudden we're to high-class to let someone like Cuban, one of the most passionate Owners in all of sports with a pretty successful track record of winning I might add, to own our team? You just had an ownership that apointed Andy frickin MacPhail to run our team for several years, yet you don't think Cuban is a huge improvement as an owner. Wait no, not only is he a huge improvement, he is simply the best owner that we can get, bar none.

 

And to the poster spouting off about his history of being outspoken, get off it man.

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So when exactly will the whole Cubs for sale thing go into effect? Any idea how long these processes usually take?
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mark cuban is an absolute joke. he does less with more every single year. he gets his annoying, jock sniffing hands in his teams business and ruins their chance at a championship every year. this is the same guy who had like 10 small forwards on the same team because he liked all of them. this is the same guy that let the nba's 2 time mvp (shoulda been 3 time) steve nash walk. this is the same guy that signed erik dampier to th max.

 

given the fact that the cubs actually make a substantial amount of money, i can only imagine what kind of moronic decisions he would make as the cubs owner. you can guarantee mo vaughn would've been a cub.

 

give me someone like colangelo who actually knows something about the game of baseball rather than a loudmouth moron like cuban.

 

the players only want him because he's known for being the biggest tool ever. he possesses no athletic ability, so anyone who does gets anything they want from him. the mavs team plane and clubhouse are far and away the nicest in all of sports. he spoils his players because he has a man crush on them.

 

cuban would make us exciting, but i can just about guarantee he wouldn't bring us a ws championship

 

Probably the worst post I've read here in a while and that's saying a lot.

 

other than "contending" what has cuban done? he makes a fool of himself publicly by running his ignorant mouth. no owner in all of professional sports is despised more by his peers than he is. he accrues more league fines than anyone else...oh yeah, his teams perennially disappoint. in fact, two of the biggest choke jobs in sports history (outside ny v. bos) have come at the hands of teams in his control in the last two years. the only thing good about mark cuban is watching that stupid look on his face as the teams he puts together gag in the clutch. if he didn't baby his players and let someone who knew a thing or two about run the team (without his constant moronic interjection), maybe they'd get their act together.

 

cuban would bring us a world of attention, and he'd spend the money to keep us in the mix, but the guy's a jinx and we already got one of those working against us, we don't need another.

 

We shouldn't want Cuban because he's a jinx? I like how your first post criticizes the Mavericks, even though they had the best record in the NBA this year.

 

Laughable logic.

 

I'm far from the foremost expert on NBA ball, but I know that he turned around a team that was the laughing stock pf the NBA at the time. He was able to regain a fanbase in Dallas, get a stadium built for what was a lowly franchise & have players want to come to the Mavericks and play.

 

Edit to add:

 

laughing stock = constant losing, no fan base and the Roy Tarpley saga

 

Agreed.

 

I realize we're engaging in opinions here, but I just don't see any way someone could conclude Cuban's not a winner, not a good owner.

 

Why? Because he talks back to people? Because he won't let refs and the league treat his team poorly? Because he doesn't behave "correctly." To me that's ridiculous. Let's look at results, let's look at where the team came from, to where it is now.

 

So he gets fined? So he goes out there and spouts off sometimes? I could care less about that. Why would anyone with a franchise in our position (i.e. in dire need of a new, positive, winning direction) care about ruffling a few feathers?

 

Ultimate silliness. But again, IMHO.

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mark cuban is an absolute joke. he does less with more every single year. he gets his annoying, jock sniffing hands in his teams business and ruins their chance at a championship every year. this is the same guy who had like 10 small forwards on the same team because he liked all of them. this is the same guy that let the nba's 2 time mvp (shoulda been 3 time) steve nash walk. this is the same guy that signed erik dampier to th max.

 

given the fact that the cubs actually make a substantial amount of money, i can only imagine what kind of moronic decisions he would make as the cubs owner. you can guarantee mo vaughn would've been a cub.

 

give me someone like colangelo who actually knows something about the game of baseball rather than a loudmouth moron like cuban.

 

the players only want him because he's known for being the biggest tool ever. he possesses no athletic ability, so anyone who does gets anything they want from him. the mavs team plane and clubhouse are far and away the nicest in all of sports. he spoils his players because he has a man crush on them.

 

cuban would make us exciting, but i can just about guarantee he wouldn't bring us a ws championship

 

Probably the worst post I've read here in a while and that's saying a lot.

 

other than "contending" what has cuban done? he makes a fool of himself publicly by running his ignorant mouth. no owner in all of professional sports is despised more by his peers than he is. he accrues more league fines than anyone else...oh yeah, his teams perennially disappoint. in fact, two of the biggest choke jobs in sports history (outside ny v. bos) have come at the hands of teams in his control in the last two years. the only thing good about mark cuban is watching that stupid look on his face as the teams he puts together gag in the clutch. if he didn't baby his players and let someone who knew a thing or two about run the team (without his constant moronic interjection), maybe they'd get their act together.

 

cuban would bring us a world of attention, and he'd spend the money to keep us in the mix, but the guy's a jinx and we already got one of those working against us, we don't need another.

 

We shouldn't want Cuban because he's a jinx? I like how your first post criticizes the Mavericks, even though they had the best record in the NBA this year.

 

Laughable logic.

 

and the most disappointing playoff exit in nba history, but i guess that doesn't matter either right? we are talking about winning championships here correct? i mean cuban's winning those all the time right? oh that's right he's never won sh*t other than a spot behind the counter at a dairy queen. cuban doesn't win championships, plain and simple. you can lump that in with the fact that the mlb owners want nothing to do with him because of what a thorn in the side he is for nba owners. no chance he gets the cubs, nor should any real sports fan want him. he's the daniel snyder of the nba

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and the most disappointing playoff exit in nba history, but i guess that doesn't matter either right? we are talking about winning championships here correct? i mean cuban's winning those all the time right? oh that's right he's never won sh*t other than a spot behind the counter at a dairy queen. cuban doesn't win championships, plain and simple. you can lump that in with the fact that the mlb owners want nothing to do with him because of what a thorn in the side he is for nba owners. no chance he gets the cubs, nor should any real sports fan want him. he's the daniel snyder of the nba

 

How many NBA championships has Jerry Colangelo won?

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and the most disappointing playoff exit in nba history, but i guess that doesn't matter either right? we are talking about winning championships here correct? i mean cuban's winning those all the time right? oh that's right he's never won sh*t other than a spot behind the counter at a dairy queen. cuban doesn't win championships, plain and simple. you can lump that in with the fact that the mlb owners want nothing to do with him because of what a thorn in the side he is for nba owners. no chance he gets the cubs, nor should any real sports fan want him. he's the daniel snyder of the nba

 

How many NBA championships has Jerry Colangelo won?

 

Yeah just for the record, I wouldn't be upset with Colangelo either, but if Cuban has faults then certainly it wouldn't be fair to ignore the financial handling of the Diamondbacks, which most agree was a poor job by Colangelo.

 

Every candidate's going to have some warts. Steinbrenner's buried in warts, but also buried in championship trophies. The questions for me are 1) Has the guy won, did he successfully build a winning franchise, and 2) Is he the kind of guy who won't rest, won't accept defeat, won't just put in the time to reap the profits.

 

Cuban's a clear yes to both those questions.

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mark cuban is an absolute joke. he does less with more every single year. he gets his annoying, jock sniffing hands in his teams business and ruins their chance at a championship every year. this is the same guy who had like 10 small forwards on the same team because he liked all of them. this is the same guy that let the nba's 2 time mvp (shoulda been 3 time) steve nash walk. this is the same guy that signed erik dampier to th max.

 

given the fact that the cubs actually make a substantial amount of money, i can only imagine what kind of moronic decisions he would make as the cubs owner. you can guarantee mo vaughn would've been a cub.

 

give me someone like colangelo who actually knows something about the game of baseball rather than a loudmouth moron like cuban.

 

the players only want him because he's known for being the biggest tool ever. he possesses no athletic ability, so anyone who does gets anything they want from him. the mavs team plane and clubhouse are far and away the nicest in all of sports. he spoils his players because he has a man crush on them.

 

cuban would make us exciting, but i can just about guarantee he wouldn't bring us a ws championship

 

 

 

Probably the worst post I've read here in a while and that's saying a lot.

 

other than "contending" what has cuban done? he makes a fool of himself publicly by running his ignorant mouth. no owner in all of professional sports is despised more by his peers than he is. he accrues more league fines than anyone else...oh yeah, his teams perennially disappoint. in fact, two of the biggest choke jobs in sports history (outside ny v. bos) have come at the hands of teams in his control in the last two years. the only thing good about mark cuban is watching that stupid look on his face as the teams he puts together gag in the clutch. if he didn't baby his players and let someone who knew a thing or two about run the team (without his constant moronic interjection), maybe they'd get their act together.

 

cuban would bring us a world of attention, and he'd spend the money to keep us in the mix, but the guy's a jinx and we already got one of those working against us, we don't need another.

 

We shouldn't want Cuban because he's a jinx? I like how your first post criticizes the Mavericks, even though they had the best record in the NBA this year.

 

Laughable logic.

 

and the most disappointing playoff exit in nba history, but i guess that doesn't matter either right? we are talking about winning championships here correct? i mean cuban's winning those all the time right? oh that's right he's never won sh*t other than a spot behind the counter at a dairy queen. cuban doesn't win championships, plain and simple. you can lump that in with the fact that the mlb owners want nothing to do with him because of what a thorn in the side he is for nba owners. no chance he gets the cubs, nor should any real sports fan want him. he's the daniel snyder of the nba

 

With the way baseball's playoffs are structured, I'll take him turning the Cubs into an annual playoff team and take my chances in the postseason.

 

Cuban's teams have performed a lot better than Snyder's, but thanks for the hyperbole. It was nice.

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I wish we had cuban yesterday sitting in the front row that way he'd be yelling and cursing at the stupid moron umpire. Since Lou or Fontenot weren't man enough to fight back to that (d)ump or that ****head renteria.
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The NBA *is* different from major league baseball. Different playoff formats. And Mark Cuban should have a championship, the refs jobbed him of that.
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Judging an owner by counting championships is downright silly.

 

The owner's job is to hire the executives and provide them with the financial resources needed to assemble the personnel (players and coaches) necessary to contend. What happens next depends on all sorts of factors that are completely out of the owner's control (players getting hot/cold in key stretches, injuries, luck, etc. etc.).

 

If anyone believes that Cuban hasn't held up his end of the bargain with the Mavs, then they're simply not looking at the situation objectively.

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the players only want him because he's known for being the biggest tool ever. he possesses no athletic ability, so anyone who does gets anything they want from him. the mavs team plane and clubhouse are far and away the nicest in all of sports. he spoils his players because he has a man crush on them.

cuban would make us exciting, but i can just about guarantee he wouldn't bring us a ws championship

 

I was just thinking, wouldn't spoiled players be happy and play hard for the organization? I don't know Cuban's style, but I like his passion. I think he'd be very vocal about winning every game and building a winner. I don't know his policy on letting the "baseball people" run the show...as in finding a good GM and letting him do his job with obvious imput as he is the owner...but how much input/control would he have. If the GM is a puppet then yes, I think Cuban would be a bad idea. But the attention, money, and passion he'd bring along with allowing a GM to run the team, I'd be all for it.

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Cuban would hire a great GM and let the GM do his job.

 

That doesn't mean he wouldn't also be looking for ways to improve the team. He and the GM would talk to consultants and stat guys (including some people who are "out of the box" compared to the baseball orthodoxy) to try to find anything they could do to make the team better. You wouldn't see any Pierre, Jones, or Perez acquisitions.

 

He wouldn't be a meddling owner as much as a businessman prodding his guys for constant improvement. He'd be actively researching how to make the team better and getting the right advice to help his GM out.

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Marriotti has been reading/stealing my posts again. God I hate it when he's right.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mariotti/index.html

 

 

Unfortunately, players will not determine the next ownership group. Such is the domain of Selig, Reinsdorf and Major League Baseball's multimillionaire boys' club, snobby cusses who wouldn't have the foresight or guts to embrace Cuban's interest. Never mind that his vision, passion and media acumen are exactly what baseball needs in the 21st century. Bud and Jerry will hold their noses when Cuban's name comes up, and he won't earn a recommendation from the ownership committee, much less be approved by three-quarters of MLB's 30 owners in any final vote.

 

The early leaders in Bud's clubhouse will annoy anybody who seeks a complete overhaul from Tribune leadership, which produced a pathetic 26-year run that has netted zero World Series trips, only four playoff berths, just eight winning seasons and seven 90-loss seasons, five over the last 10 years. Their names are John Canning Jr. and Andy McKenna, and with all due respect to their political clout and business success, you wouldn't want them as the next owners of Chicago National League Ball Club Inc. To me, they are simply an extension of the Tribsters. In the case of McKenna, who has been around the local sports scene forever, I mean that literally, recalling his stints as Cubs chairman in the early 1980s and later on their board of directors. Canning, chief executive of a local private-equity firm, owns 11 percent of the Milwaukee Brewers and is a favorite of Selig.

 

Getting my drift? These are Bud guys, Jerry guys.

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Gentlemen - I hate to be a wet blanket but if I may offer a dose of realism to this discussion.

 

Could Cuban be a great owner for the Cubs - Yes.

 

Will it ever happen - No.

 

There is no way the powerful Reinsdorf would allow Cuban to become owner of the Cubs and restore Chicago to a Cubs town. It would simply be bad a bad business decision for him.

 

Also, there is no way three fourths of a conservative old school group like the Major League owners would invite a "maverick" like Cuban to join their club.

 

It's a nice dream to have but it ain't going to happen.

 

Reinsdorf is one guy out of 30. The only chance Reinsdorf has to affect the sale is to convince Zell (who is invested in the Sox and presumably knows Jerry) not to for purely personal reasons (things like this are why MLB forbids people from having ownership stakes in two teams). Does anyone really know how much, if any, influence Reinsdorf has with Zell. Is it enough to convince Zell to forgo what is presumably a large amount of money if Cuban ends up high bidder?

 

Would MLB sit by and watch if Reinsdorf tried to influence the sale of the other team in his city. If we're counting up influence in MLB, remember the Cubs may have MacPhail, who has influence with the commissioner and other owners, and is basically running for commissioner of baseball himself.

 

It's certainly possible that Reinsdorf will somehow manage to keep the team from being sold to Cuban, but it certainly is premature to say "it ain't going to happen".[/quote]

 

Sorry Dude - Jay and I never premature anything. It just ain't going to happen.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mariotti/index.html

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Gentlemen - I hate to be a wet blanket but if I may offer a dose of realism to this discussion.

 

Could Cuban be a great owner for the Cubs - Yes.

 

Will it ever happen - No.

 

There is no way the powerful Reinsdorf would allow Cuban to become owner of the Cubs and restore Chicago to a Cubs town. It would simply be bad a bad business decision for him.

 

Also, there is no way three fourths of a conservative old school group like the Major League owners would invite a "maverick" like Cuban to join their club.

 

It's a nice dream to have but it ain't going to happen.

 

Reinsdorf is one guy out of 30. The only chance Reinsdorf has to affect the sale is to convince Zell (who is invested in the Sox and presumably knows Jerry) not to for purely personal reasons (things like this are why MLB forbids people from having ownership stakes in two teams). Does anyone really know how much, if any, influence Reinsdorf has with Zell. Is it enough to convince Zell to forgo what is presumably a large amount of money if Cuban ends up high bidder?

 

Would MLB sit by and watch if Reinsdorf tried to influence the sale of the other team in his city. If we're counting up influence in MLB, remember the Cubs may have MacPhail, who has influence with the commissioner and other owners, and is basically running for commissioner of baseball himself.

 

It's certainly possible that Reinsdorf will somehow manage to keep the team from being sold to Cuban, but it certainly is premature to say "it ain't going to happen".

 

Sorry Dude - Jay and I never premature anything. It just ain't going to happen.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mariotti/index.html

 

I'm not sure citing Jay Mariotti helps your argument any. Furthermore, it mentions the vote for Cuban's NBA ownership vote was 29-1, so Reinsdorf obviously wasn't very successful blocking his purchase. Now, if enough owners really dislike Cuban's antics, then they can block the sale, but I can't believe that Reinsdorf alone has enough influence to do much of anything.

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Gentlemen - I hate to be a wet blanket but if I may offer a dose of realism to this discussion.

 

Could Cuban be a great owner for the Cubs - Yes.

 

Will it ever happen - No.

 

There is no way the powerful Reinsdorf would allow Cuban to become owner of the Cubs and restore Chicago to a Cubs town. It would simply be bad a bad business decision for him.

 

Also, there is no way three fourths of a conservative old school group like the Major League owners would invite a "maverick" like Cuban to join their club.

 

It's a nice dream to have but it ain't going to happen.

 

Reinsdorf is one guy out of 30. The only chance Reinsdorf has to affect the sale is to convince Zell (who is invested in the Sox and presumably knows Jerry) not to for purely personal reasons (things like this are why MLB forbids people from having ownership stakes in two teams). Does anyone really know how much, if any, influence Reinsdorf has with Zell. Is it enough to convince Zell to forgo what is presumably a large amount of money if Cuban ends up high bidder?

 

Would MLB sit by and watch if Reinsdorf tried to influence the sale of the other team in his city. If we're counting up influence in MLB, remember the Cubs may have MacPhail, who has influence with the commissioner and other owners, and is basically running for commissioner of baseball himself.

 

It's certainly possible that Reinsdorf will somehow manage to keep the team from being sold to Cuban, but it certainly is premature to say "it ain't going to happen".

 

Sorry Dude - Jay and I never premature anything. It just ain't going to happen.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mariotti/index.html

 

I'm not sure citing Jay Mariotti helps your argument any. Furthermore, it mentions the vote for Cuban's NBA ownership vote was 29-1, so Reinsdorf obviously wasn't very successful blocking his purchase. Now, if enough owners really dislike Cuban's antics, then they can block the sale, but I can't believe that Reinsdorf alone has enough influence to do much of anything.

 

Do you think if any of the other 29 owners knew then what they know now about Mark Cuban they might have voted differently? At the time of the vote, Cuban was a relative unknown to the owners.

 

Also, I bet there was not nearly as many investors interested in purchasing the Mavericks as there will be in purchasing the Cubs. The MLB owners can afford to be a lot more selective.

 

Just because something would be great for the Cubs doesn't mean it's going to happen. Case in point - The last 100 years.

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Gentlemen - I hate to be a wet blanket but if I may offer a dose of realism to this discussion.

 

Could Cuban be a great owner for the Cubs - Yes.

 

Will it ever happen - No.

 

There is no way the powerful Reinsdorf would allow Cuban to become owner of the Cubs and restore Chicago to a Cubs town. It would simply be bad a bad business decision for him.

 

Also, there is no way three fourths of a conservative old school group like the Major League owners would invite a "maverick" like Cuban to join their club.

 

It's a nice dream to have but it ain't going to happen.

 

Reinsdorf is one guy out of 30. The only chance Reinsdorf has to affect the sale is to convince Zell (who is invested in the Sox and presumably knows Jerry) not to for purely personal reasons (things like this are why MLB forbids people from having ownership stakes in two teams). Does anyone really know how much, if any, influence Reinsdorf has with Zell. Is it enough to convince Zell to forgo what is presumably a large amount of money if Cuban ends up high bidder?

 

Would MLB sit by and watch if Reinsdorf tried to influence the sale of the other team in his city. If we're counting up influence in MLB, remember the Cubs may have MacPhail, who has influence with the commissioner and other owners, and is basically running for commissioner of baseball himself.

 

It's certainly possible that Reinsdorf will somehow manage to keep the team from being sold to Cuban, but it certainly is premature to say "it ain't going to happen".

 

Sorry Dude - Jay and I never premature anything. It just ain't going to happen.

 

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mariotti/index.html

 

I'm not sure citing Jay Mariotti helps your argument any. Furthermore, it mentions the vote for Cuban's NBA ownership vote was 29-1, so Reinsdorf obviously wasn't very successful blocking his purchase. Now, if enough owners really dislike Cuban's antics, then they can block the sale, but I can't believe that Reinsdorf alone has enough influence to do much of anything.

 

Do you think if any of the other 29 owners knew then what they know now about Mark Cuban they might have voted differently? At the time of the vote, Cuban was a relative unknown to the owners.

 

Also, I bet there was not nearly as many investors interested in purchasing the Mavericks as there will be in purchasing the Cubs. The MLB owners can afford to be a lot more selective.

 

Just because something would be great for the Cubs doesn't mean it's going to happen. Case in point - The last 100 years.

 

Now that argument makes sense to me. I can certainly see baseball owners in general or Bud Selig being reluctant to deal with Cuban and his antics, particularly worried that he draws attention to the problems with ML umpires, but that's a different argument than saying one guy out of 30 owners is going to be able to block the sale of a ML team. There might be enough guys with concerns to block Cuban and there might not. It comes down to how many votes there are. I rather suspect that the Cubs are out of Cuban's, and most anyone else's, personal financial reach, and the Cubs will be bought by an ownership group led by someone like Colangelo who has MLB or other pro sports experience. I could see Cuban possibly heading such a group as well.

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