Jacque on the block; Pie to stay

[NCCubFan]

Salty's stock has fallen so much the Braves called him up to Atlanta.

I don't really think his stock has fallen; it's just that his future with the Braves is cloudy because of re-signing McCann long-term. I think he has plenty of trade value.

[BigbadB]

A better agruement for this case may be to see if ARam bats significantly better with better hitters behind him.

 

There is nothing wrong with saying that Ramirez could use protection behind him. It's not really that Aramis needs a good hitter behind him to see better pitches, it's more that you don't want pitchers to pitch around Aramis completely.

 

Bonds got walked alot because the hitter that typically hit directly behind Bonds wasn't nearly the threat that Bonds was.

 

That's where protection comes into play. Another example would be if the Cubs had Lee hitting 3rd and Izturis hitting 4th. No pitcher is going to give Lee good pitches to hit (and would probably prefer just walking him) when Izturis is due up next.

 

Soriano had a career high in walks and IBB's last year because Soriano was the only REAL threat in the Nats line up.

[muntjack]

The only thing I always wonder about is if it drives away some of the people that this board would like to have as members because it appears so much like talk radio trade proposals. While they are sarcastic, someone who hasn't read the board for a long time might not know that, especially when they see it multiple times in different threads.

 

very good point

 

I was thinking that too. Then I realized anyone who can't pick up the sarcasm in a Jacque Jones and Cesar Izturis for ARod trade, is a moron and I don't care if they are apart of NSBB. Now if you wanna talk about the joke being overused, I can get on board with that.

 

On sports talk radio though and several message boards I've seen, people propose trades like that all the time-and they are completely serious.

This board isn't exactly immune from that sort of thing http://www.northsidebaseball.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=1296556#1296556

 

 

Excuse me, but what exactly is crazy about that? Salty's stock has fallen considerably. If you disagree with the idea, fine. Don't imply that I don't know what I'm talking about, please.

 

Salty's stock has fallen so much the Braves called him up to Atlanta.

 

I'm confused. Are premier prospects the only ones called up to the major leagues?

 

Look, the guy is Pie's age and hit .230 in AA last year. He had ONE GOOD YEAR in high A ball. He was a top prospect two years ago. He is still a prospect, but his stock has fallen. I fail to see what is controversial about this.

 

If his name was Frank Smith, no one would even know who he is.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

The only thing I always wonder about is if it drives away some of the people that this board would like to have as members because it appears so much like talk radio trade proposals. While they are sarcastic, someone who hasn't read the board for a long time might not know that, especially when they see it multiple times in different threads.

 

very good point

 

I was thinking that too. Then I realized anyone who can't pick up the sarcasm in a Jacque Jones and Cesar Izturis for ARod trade, is a moron and I don't care if they are apart of NSBB. Now if you wanna talk about the joke being overused, I can get on board with that.

 

On sports talk radio though and several message boards I've seen, people propose trades like that all the time-and they are completely serious.

This board isn't exactly immune from that sort of thing http://www.northsidebaseball.com/Forum/viewtopic.php?p=1296556#1296556

 

 

Excuse me, but what exactly is crazy about that? Salty's stock has fallen considerably. If you disagree with the idea, fine. Don't imply that I don't know what I'm talking about, please.

 

Salty's stock has fallen so much the Braves called him up to Atlanta.

 

I'm confused. Are premier prospects the only ones called up to the major leagues?

 

Look, the guy is Pie's age and hit .230 in AA last year. He had ONE GOOD YEAR in high A ball. He was a top prospect two years ago. He is still a prospect, but his stock has fallen. I fail to see what is controversial about this.

 

If his name was Frank Smith, no one would even know who he is.

 

Talking to the guys around Mississippi (Braves AA), Salty is still highly thought of in the organization. He won't be given away. He'll be traded for a very good player or not at all.

 

He's still young. At the time of his call-up he was hitting 309/404/617, with 7 2b and 6 HR in 22 games.

 

Yes, he had a bad year last year, but his ceiling is very high. He's a switch hitting catcher with excellent defensive skills.

 

You may think his stock is down, but it's not. Ask around baseball. The Braves still consider him one if not the top prospect in their organization. He wouldn't be offered cheaply no matter what he did last season. The Braves believe his stats in April are more indicative of his abilities.

[Brian]

Some Braves fans on another board I post on said that Salty could be moved to 1st.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Some Braves fans on another board I post on said that Salty could be moved to 1st.

 

That has been discussed. The guys in Mississippi mentioned it as well. But he really is a good defensive catcher.

 

My guess is that he'll be traded, but it won't happen unless the Braves get what they really want. He definitely won't be moved for Jacque Jones.

 

The Braves might take Pie and Ohman for him.

[muntjack]

Some Braves fans on another board I post on said that Salty could be moved to 1st.

 

That has been discussed. The guys in Mississippi mentioned it as well. But he really is a good defensive catcher.

 

My guess is that he'll be traded, but it won't happen unless the Braves get what they really want. He definitely won't be moved for Jacque Jones.

 

The Braves might take Pie and Ohman for him.

 

 

The Braves may very well value him differently from the rest of the league. We here should be very familiar with that. The fact is, league-wide his stock has fallen. I'm in no way stating that he doesn't have a bright future, I'm just saying that he isn't viewed as a can't miss prospect anymore.

 

I also think many here undervalue Jacque Jones.

 

It's all subjective, but when people act like I'm proposing a Cedeno + cash for Jesus Christ deal, it comes off as a little ridiculous.

[Backtobanks]

Some Braves fans on another board I post on said that Salty could be moved to 1st.

 

That has been discussed. The guys in Mississippi mentioned it as well. But he really is a good defensive catcher.

 

My guess is that he'll be traded, but it won't happen unless the Braves get what they really want. He definitely won't be moved for Jacque Jones.

 

The Braves might take Pie and Ohman for him.

 

Thanks, but no thanks. I am amazed how posters build up other team's prospects and tear down the Cubs' prospects. I would think Pie is pretty much untouchable, especially for an unproven prospect. Now if you're talking about Cabrera, then you might mention Pie's name.

[KingCubsFan]

Some Braves fans on another board I post on said that Salty could be moved to 1st.

 

That has been discussed. The guys in Mississippi mentioned it as well. But he really is a good defensive catcher.

 

My guess is that he'll be traded, but it won't happen unless the Braves get what they really want. He definitely won't be moved for Jacque Jones.

 

The Braves might take Pie and Ohman for him.

 

 

The Braves may very well value him differently from the rest of the league. We here should be very familiar with that. The fact is, league-wide his stock has fallen. I'm in no way stating that he doesn't have a bright future, I'm just saying that he isn't viewed as a can't miss prospect anymore.

 

I also think many here undervalue Jacque Jones.

 

It's all subjective, but when people act like I'm proposing a Cedeno + cash for Jesus Christ deal, it comes off as a little ridiculous.

Can you provide some sort of evidence for the fact that his stock has fallen so dramatically over the year that we could get him for a player that, apparently, no one wants? Baseball America has him among the top 40 prospects in the game and he's still the Braves #1 prospect. He's off to a good start this year, and the reason his numbers were so poor last year was that his wrist was injured for the whole first half and he batted .197. As a prospect, I would say he's probably about equal to Pie (Pie is higher, but not as much as you'd think)

[NewUserName]

A better agruement for this case may be to see if ARam bats significantly better with better hitters behind him.

 

There is nothing wrong with saying that Ramirez could use protection behind him. It's not really that Aramis needs a good hitter behind him to see better pitches, it's more that you don't want pitchers to pitch around Aramis completely.

 

Bonds got walked alot because the hitter that typically hit directly behind Bonds wasn't nearly the threat that Bonds was.

 

That's where protection comes into play. Another example would be if the Cubs had Lee hitting 3rd and Izturis hitting 4th. No pitcher is going to give Lee good pitches to hit (and would probably prefer just walking him) when Izturis is due up next.

 

Soriano had a career high in walks and IBB's last year because Soriano was the only REAL threat in the Nats line up.

 

Truth being told though a team is probably better just pitching to Bonds than walking him all the time. If the end result is that players walk more than that is probably better than them going 1 out of 3 hitting.

[YearofDaCubs]

Per Rotoworld:

 

 

Ronny Cedeno was seen clearing out his locked following Saturday's game, suggesting he'll be sent down to make room for Sunday's starter, Angel Guzman.

[muntjack]

Some Braves fans on another board I post on said that Salty could be moved to 1st.

 

That has been discussed. The guys in Mississippi mentioned it as well. But he really is a good defensive catcher.

 

My guess is that he'll be traded, but it won't happen unless the Braves get what they really want. He definitely won't be moved for Jacque Jones.

 

The Braves might take Pie and Ohman for him.

 

 

The Braves may very well value him differently from the rest of the league. We here should be very familiar with that. The fact is, league-wide his stock has fallen. I'm in no way stating that he doesn't have a bright future, I'm just saying that he isn't viewed as a can't miss prospect anymore.

 

I also think many here undervalue Jacque Jones.

 

It's all subjective, but when people act like I'm proposing a Cedeno + cash for Jesus Christ deal, it comes off as a little ridiculous.

Can you provide some sort of evidence for the fact that his stock has fallen so dramatically over the year that we could get him for a player that, apparently, no one wants? Baseball America has him among the top 40 prospects in the game and he's still the Braves #1 prospect. He's off to a good start this year, and the reason his numbers were so poor last year was that his wrist was injured for the whole first half and he batted .197. As a prospect, I would say he's probably about equal to Pie (Pie is higher, but not as much as you'd think)

 

 

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/SALTALAMA19850502A.php

 

I assume you are familiar with Pie's projected WARP and major league equivalents.

 

Salty has a nice upside, I will not deny that, but to imply that a contender would laugh at a cheap Jacque Jones to fill out their lineup.....

 

You say he obviously has no value, while I think he certainly does. I have a feeling we'll find out soon.

[killthegoat06]

Per Rotoworld:

 

 

Ronny Cedeno was seen clearing out his locked following Saturday's game, suggesting he'll be sent down to make room for Sunday's starter, Angel Guzman.

 

Pie better play. He better not sit on the bench.

[CubColtPacer]

Per Rotoworld:

 

 

Ronny Cedeno was seen clearing out his locked following Saturday's game, suggesting he'll be sent down to make room for Sunday's starter, Angel Guzman.

 

Pie better play. He better not sit on the bench.

 

To be fair, it's not like Pie is rotting on the bench right now. He is getting into games, and he usually is getting into games early enough to get an at-bat or two. Here are his at-bats from the last few days.

 

5/5-0/1

5/4-1/2

5/2-0/2

5/1-0/0 (played CF the last couple innings)

4/30-1/4

 

So-only one start the last 5 games, but still plenty of action-he has played multiple innings in every game.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Some Braves fans on another board I post on said that Salty could be moved to 1st.

 

That has been discussed. The guys in Mississippi mentioned it as well. But he really is a good defensive catcher.

 

My guess is that he'll be traded, but it won't happen unless the Braves get what they really want. He definitely won't be moved for Jacque Jones.

 

The Braves might take Pie and Ohman for him.

 

 

The Braves may very well value him differently from the rest of the league. We here should be very familiar with that. The fact is, league-wide his stock has fallen. I'm in no way stating that he doesn't have a bright future, I'm just saying that he isn't viewed as a can't miss prospect anymore.

 

I also think many here undervalue Jacque Jones.

 

It's all subjective, but when people act like I'm proposing a Cedeno + cash for Jesus Christ deal, it comes off as a little ridiculous.

 

Do you have proof that league wide his stock has fallen? He's still rated highly on most prospect lists. He's a switch hitting catcher. He had a bad year, but his skills still rate highly to most scouts. He's young and developing. Personally, I think he's valued quite highly. Everything I've heard backs that up.

 

I'm not sure how high Jones is valued. We know Hendry shopped him this offseason and found no takers. If the Braves trade Salty for an OF upgrade, they will aim much, much higher than Jones, unless someone sweetens the deal. Jones + Veal might get it done. Jones + Ohman + Gallagher, maybe. Pie + pitching prospect, probably.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Some Braves fans on another board I post on said that Salty could be moved to 1st.

 

That has been discussed. The guys in Mississippi mentioned it as well. But he really is a good defensive catcher.

 

My guess is that he'll be traded, but it won't happen unless the Braves get what they really want. He definitely won't be moved for Jacque Jones.

 

The Braves might take Pie and Ohman for him.

 

 

The Braves may very well value him differently from the rest of the league. We here should be very familiar with that. The fact is, league-wide his stock has fallen. I'm in no way stating that he doesn't have a bright future, I'm just saying that he isn't viewed as a can't miss prospect anymore.

 

I also think many here undervalue Jacque Jones.

 

It's all subjective, but when people act like I'm proposing a Cedeno + cash for Jesus Christ deal, it comes off as a little ridiculous.

Can you provide some sort of evidence for the fact that his stock has fallen so dramatically over the year that we could get him for a player that, apparently, no one wants? Baseball America has him among the top 40 prospects in the game and he's still the Braves #1 prospect. He's off to a good start this year, and the reason his numbers were so poor last year was that his wrist was injured for the whole first half and he batted .197. As a prospect, I would say he's probably about equal to Pie (Pie is higher, but not as much as you'd think)

 

 

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/SALTALAMA19850502A.php

 

I assume you are familiar with Pie's projected WARP and major league equivalents.

 

Salty has a nice upside, I will not deny that, but to imply that a contender would laugh at a cheap Jacque Jones to fill out their lineup.....

 

You say he obviously has no value, while I think he certainly does. I have a feeling we'll find out soon.

 

The Braves wouldn't laugh at getting Jones, but they aren't going to offer Salty to get him. The Braves might give us Yunil Escobar and another prospect for Jones. They may even part with Joey Devine for Jones. They might offer a package around Van Pope. If they trade Salty, they will get a better player than Jones. You can bet on it.

[KingCubsFan]

Some Braves fans on another board I post on said that Salty could be moved to 1st.

 

That has been discussed. The guys in Mississippi mentioned it as well. But he really is a good defensive catcher.

 

My guess is that he'll be traded, but it won't happen unless the Braves get what they really want. He definitely won't be moved for Jacque Jones.

 

The Braves might take Pie and Ohman for him.

 

 

The Braves may very well value him differently from the rest of the league. We here should be very familiar with that. The fact is, league-wide his stock has fallen. I'm in no way stating that he doesn't have a bright future, I'm just saying that he isn't viewed as a can't miss prospect anymore.

 

I also think many here undervalue Jacque Jones.

 

It's all subjective, but when people act like I'm proposing a Cedeno + cash for Jesus Christ deal, it comes off as a little ridiculous.

Can you provide some sort of evidence for the fact that his stock has fallen so dramatically over the year that we could get him for a player that, apparently, no one wants? Baseball America has him among the top 40 prospects in the game and he's still the Braves #1 prospect. He's off to a good start this year, and the reason his numbers were so poor last year was that his wrist was injured for the whole first half and he batted .197. As a prospect, I would say he's probably about equal to Pie (Pie is higher, but not as much as you'd think)

 

 

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/SALTALAMA19850502A.php

 

I assume you are familiar with Pie's projected WARP and major league equivalents.

 

Salty has a nice upside, I will not deny that, but to imply that a contender would laugh at a cheap Jacque Jones to fill out their lineup.....

 

You say he obviously has no value, while I think he certainly does. I have a feeling we'll find out soon.

Honestly, I wouldn't pay too much attention to those, since they are skewed by the fact that he did so awful last year while trying to play through a wrist injury. Let's see how he does this year while healthy. And I never said that Jacque Jones doesn't have value, or that a team would laugh at Jacque Jones. Unlike a lot of people on this site, I actually think Jones is a useful player, and he's probably underrated at the moment. But I don't think he's worth a premium prospect, and I don't think the Cubs will get one for him (unless they're trading with the Pirates).

[soccer10k]

Aram is batting .283 with a .356 OBP, .511 SLG. 5 HR's, and 17 RBI's.

 

He needs "protection", how?

 

And since going back to LF Soriano has already made 2 outfeild assists and he's hot with the bat right now. Don't move him to 2B where he will most likely completely blow, and it could cause him to go on a funk offensively because of it.

 

Soriano should be in LF for the rest of the year. It's between Pie and Jones (or I'd pray for Cedeno). But at this time I'd send Pie down. Because if Jonesy can handle CF pretty well, his bat adds even more potency to this line-up.

 

Jones and Barret are both capable #5 hitters. So is Floyd for that matter. What is it with some people that don't beleive we have a "#5 hitter"? I think of the three I named, they are probably just about at average #'s for "#5 hitters".

 

 

Also similar to clutch hitting, protection is a myth

 

Clutch hitting exists. The clutch hitter does not.

 

If a player comes through with a 2 RBI single to give his team a one run lead late in the game, it's a clutch hit. But that doesn't make him a clutch hitter.

[muntjack]

Some Braves fans on another board I post on said that Salty could be moved to 1st.

 

That has been discussed. The guys in Mississippi mentioned it as well. But he really is a good defensive catcher.

 

My guess is that he'll be traded, but it won't happen unless the Braves get what they really want. He definitely won't be moved for Jacque Jones.

 

The Braves might take Pie and Ohman for him.

 

 

The Braves may very well value him differently from the rest of the league. We here should be very familiar with that. The fact is, league-wide his stock has fallen. I'm in no way stating that he doesn't have a bright future, I'm just saying that he isn't viewed as a can't miss prospect anymore.

 

I also think many here undervalue Jacque Jones.

 

It's all subjective, but when people act like I'm proposing a Cedeno + cash for Jesus Christ deal, it comes off as a little ridiculous.

Can you provide some sort of evidence for the fact that his stock has fallen so dramatically over the year that we could get him for a player that, apparently, no one wants? Baseball America has him among the top 40 prospects in the game and he's still the Braves #1 prospect. He's off to a good start this year, and the reason his numbers were so poor last year was that his wrist was injured for the whole first half and he batted .197. As a prospect, I would say he's probably about equal to Pie (Pie is higher, but not as much as you'd think)

 

 

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/SALTALAMA19850502A.php

 

I assume you are familiar with Pie's projected WARP and major league equivalents.

 

Salty has a nice upside, I will not deny that, but to imply that a contender would laugh at a cheap Jacque Jones to fill out their lineup.....

 

You say he obviously has no value, while I think he certainly does. I have a feeling we'll find out soon.

Honestly, I wouldn't pay too much attention to those, since they are skewed by the fact that he did so awful last year while trying to play through a wrist injury. Let's see how he does this year while healthy. And I never said that Jacque Jones doesn't have value, or that a team would laugh at Jacque Jones. Unlike a lot of people on this site, I actually think Jones is a useful player, and he's probably underrated at the moment. But I don't think he's worth a premium prospect, and I don't think the Cubs will get one for him (unless they're trading with the Pirates).

 

 

Well, then, I find it curious that you used my idea as an example of how ridiculous trade proposals can get around here.

 

I don't think he's worth a premium prospect

 

My case is that I don't see Salty as a "premium prospect" while just about everyone else here does. I see a good hitter who is blocked and will likely end up at first base, who could be a decent regular for a few years.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Some Braves fans on another board I post on said that Salty could be moved to 1st.

 

That has been discussed. The guys in Mississippi mentioned it as well. But he really is a good defensive catcher.

 

My guess is that he'll be traded, but it won't happen unless the Braves get what they really want. He definitely won't be moved for Jacque Jones.

 

The Braves might take Pie and Ohman for him.

 

 

The Braves may very well value him differently from the rest of the league. We here should be very familiar with that. The fact is, league-wide his stock has fallen. I'm in no way stating that he doesn't have a bright future, I'm just saying that he isn't viewed as a can't miss prospect anymore.

 

I also think many here undervalue Jacque Jones.

 

It's all subjective, but when people act like I'm proposing a Cedeno + cash for Jesus Christ deal, it comes off as a little ridiculous.

Can you provide some sort of evidence for the fact that his stock has fallen so dramatically over the year that we could get him for a player that, apparently, no one wants? Baseball America has him among the top 40 prospects in the game and he's still the Braves #1 prospect. He's off to a good start this year, and the reason his numbers were so poor last year was that his wrist was injured for the whole first half and he batted .197. As a prospect, I would say he's probably about equal to Pie (Pie is higher, but not as much as you'd think)

 

 

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/pecota/SALTALAMA19850502A.php

 

I assume you are familiar with Pie's projected WARP and major league equivalents.

 

Salty has a nice upside, I will not deny that, but to imply that a contender would laugh at a cheap Jacque Jones to fill out their lineup.....

 

You say he obviously has no value, while I think he certainly does. I have a feeling we'll find out soon.

Honestly, I wouldn't pay too much attention to those, since they are skewed by the fact that he did so awful last year while trying to play through a wrist injury. Let's see how he does this year while healthy. And I never said that Jacque Jones doesn't have value, or that a team would laugh at Jacque Jones. Unlike a lot of people on this site, I actually think Jones is a useful player, and he's probably underrated at the moment. But I don't think he's worth a premium prospect, and I don't think the Cubs will get one for him (unless they're trading with the Pirates).

 

 

Well, then, I find it curious that you used my idea as an example of how ridiculous trade proposals can get around here.

 

I don't think he's worth a premium prospect

 

My case is that I don't see Salty as a "premium prospect" while just about everyone else here does. I see a good hitter who is blocked and will likely end up at first base, who could be a decent regular for a few years.

 

It's not just everyone here that sees Salty as a premiere prospect. He's viewed as such by most people in baseball and most prospect ratings. Whether you think he is or not, Salty is a premeire prospect. He has the tools and the upside. He'll bring much more than Jones.

[E.J.]

Angels might be interested in Jacque

 

Among the players the Angels are believed to be interested in are Colorado third baseman Garrett Atkins and outfielders Brad Hawpe and Jeff Baker, outfielders Kevin Mench (Milwaukee), Jacque Jones (Chicago Cubs), Pat Burrell (Philadelphia) and Emil Brown (Kansas City), and third basemen Morgan Ensberg (Houston) and Edwin Encarnacion (Cincinnati).

 

Boosting their leverage in trade talks is a surplus of starting pitchers — with the return of Bartolo Colon and Jered Weaver and strong performances from Joe Saunders and Dustin Moseley, the Angels' rotation goes seven deep.

 

Right-hander Ervin Santana, who was nearly traded for Baltimore shortstop Miguel Tejada last summer, could be the Angels' best bargaining chip, a pitcher who, when packaged with another good player, could bring a hitter the caliber of Atkins (.329, 29 home runs, 120 runs batted in last season).

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Angels might be interested in Jacque

 

Among the players the Angels are believed to be interested in are Colorado third baseman Garrett Atkins and outfielders Brad Hawpe and Jeff Baker, outfielders Kevin Mench (Milwaukee), Jacque Jones (Chicago Cubs), Pat Burrell (Philadelphia) and Emil Brown (Kansas City), and third basemen Morgan Ensberg (Houston) and Edwin Encarnacion (Cincinnati).

 

Boosting their leverage in trade talks is a surplus of starting pitchers — with the return of Bartolo Colon and Jered Weaver and strong performances from Joe Saunders and Dustin Moseley, the Angels' rotation goes seven deep.

 

Right-hander Ervin Santana, who was nearly traded for Baltimore shortstop Miguel Tejada last summer, could be the Angels' best bargaining chip, a pitcher who, when packaged with another good player, could bring a hitter the caliber of Atkins (.329, 29 home runs, 120 runs batted in last season).

 

Colon for Jacque? Both have some upside; both have warts.

[killthegoat06]

Angels might be interested in Jacque

 

Among the players the Angels are believed to be interested in are Colorado third baseman Garrett Atkins and outfielders Brad Hawpe and Jeff Baker, outfielders Kevin Mench (Milwaukee), Jacque Jones (Chicago Cubs), Pat Burrell (Philadelphia) and Emil Brown (Kansas City), and third basemen Morgan Ensberg (Houston) and Edwin Encarnacion (Cincinnati).

 

Boosting their leverage in trade talks is a surplus of starting pitchers — with the return of Bartolo Colon and Jered Weaver and strong performances from Joe Saunders and Dustin Moseley, the Angels' rotation goes seven deep.

 

Right-hander Ervin Santana, who was nearly traded for Baltimore shortstop Miguel Tejada last summer, could be the Angels' best bargaining chip, a pitcher who, when packaged with another good player, could bring a hitter the caliber of Atkins (.329, 29 home runs, 120 runs batted in last season).

 

Colon for Jacque? Both have some upside; both have warts.

 

If Gooz struggles, I'd definitely do Jones for Colon.

[Balsa]

I'd love Colon or Ervin Santana for Jacque, but I don't see that happening.

[RammyFanny]

I'd love something for Ervin Santana. He's got a chance to be special. Obviously, we'd need to throw in some very very good prospects but i'd probably do it. He's struggled so far though, so I can't see the Angels dealing him at a low point like this.