assessment on marquis, thus far....

[killthegoat06]

Maddux recommended that Marquis and Rothschild get together.

 

really?

[killthegoat06]

I'm on the Marquis BandWGN.

 

me 2, 3 and 4

[killthegoat06]

Here's the best part for me. He's been getting better peripherally.

 

First 3 Starts: 9/10 K/BB, 28/17 GO/FO, 1.23 WHIP, 17 IP

Last 3 Starts: 10/3 K/BB, 36/22 GO/FO, 0.88 WHIP, 21.2 IP

 

I dunno. There should be some fudge factor for the numbers against the Pirates yesterday to adjust them as if they played against major leaguers. That was pathetic.

 

Tip your cap, Jake. TIP. YOUR. CAP.

:lol:

[Outshined_One]

Maddux recommended that Marquis and Rothschild get together.

 

really?

 

Matchmaker, matchmaker, make me a match!

Find me a find!

Catch me a catch!

[A New Era]

I'm on the Marquis BandWGN.

 

me 2, 3 and 4

 

Oh HELL no. I've got 3.

[98navigator]

I'm on the Marquis winning BandWGN. As soon as (if), he starts to suck I'm jumping off that thing. :lol:

[FloridaCubbie]

Gotta bump this...

 

I'm still cautious about Marquis because I'm afraid that he'll start sucking when I start expecting him to be awesome. Any Idea as to why he's been so good thus far?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Gotta bump this...

 

I'm still cautious about Marquis because I'm afraid that he'll start sucking when I start expecting him to be awesome. Any Idea as to why he's been so good thus far?

 

Because we expected him to suck? I'm sticking with that.

[Coach C]

Gotta bump this...

 

I'm still cautious about Marquis because I'm afraid that he'll start sucking when I start expecting him to be awesome. Any Idea as to why he's been so good thus far?

 

Could be possible that Marquis changed a little bit on his pitching style?

 

Like for example, Player A is having a fast start, a change that he made to his delivery during Spring Training. In past seasons, Player A would land on the heel of his foot when he released a pitch. His elbow and shoulder felt a jarring sensation and he couldn't establish a consistent strike zone.

 

With help from a pitching coach, Player A started landing on his toe during Spring Training. After a week of inconsistency, everything clicked. With consistency came a better finish that yielded a healthier, more durable Player A who finds the strike zone more frequently and works deeper into games.

 

Just a theory.

[NCCubFan]

This seems to be the night for bumping Marquis-related threads. :D

[Ender]

This is a post I made for fantasy baseball purposes, read what you will into it but I just wouldn't get excited about him yet...

 

The first thing you have to consider is that the wind has been blowing in at Wrigley almost all year, right now its playing as a pitchers park and is massively suppressing HR's with a 0.710 HR rating making it the 5th hardest park in all of baseball to hit a HR in this year. Its normally a hitters park when all is said and done.

 

The second thing to consider is other than the Brewers the Cubs have faced nothing but poor offenses all year. So far this season he has faced Cin, Hou, SDP, STLx2, Pitx2.

 

STL has the lowest runs scored of any team in baseball. Pit has the 3rd lowest runs scored. Hou has the 8th lowest, Cin is around league average. SDP are below average. He has faced about the easiest competition of anyone in baseball. The average OPS of batters he has faced this year is .680, thats just horrible.

 

Now to get into his actual results...

 

4.42 K/9, thats terrible

3.03 BB/9 thats well below average

52% GB thats the one positive I see

.217 BABIP thats just plain luck

81.6% LOB again thats just luck

4.05 FIP

 

He is lucky he doesn't have a 4 ERA the way he has pitched and he has faced nothing but easy competition. Expect a huge regression and him not being on a roster by the all star break.

[Bote McBoteface]

Marquis has always been a lot better in the first half. I'll wait until he's a few starts into the second half before I pass my judgment on him. So far, it's hard to argue with the results. It's possible that maybe Rothschild found something and fixed it, it's also possible that he just rocks in the first half.

[Bote McBoteface]

It's also possible that the #21 jersey he wears has steroids soaked into it from it's previous wearer, and Marquis is benefiting from that.

[Ender]

Marquis has always been a lot better in the first half. I'll wait until he's a few starts into the second half before I pass my judgment on him. So far, it's hard to argue with the results. It's possible that maybe Rothschild found something and fixed it, it's also possible that he just rocks in the first half.

 

To be honest I think the Cubs have a) played in a pitchesr park so far this year which won't continue and b) have had one of the easiest schedules in baseball for pitchers.

 

Now to be fair I think the NL central is going to be a low offense division in general other than the Cubs which well, Cub pitchers don't have to face. The Brewers are the only other above average offense in the division and they are so young its probably going to be inconsistent. I think Marquis stinks but maybe the fact he has such easy competition means he'll end up with numbers that make him valuable for a trade before other teams realize why he wasn't terrible.

[Magnetic Curses]

This is a post I made for fantasy baseball purposes, read what you will into it but I just wouldn't get excited about him yet...

 

The first thing you have to consider is that the wind has been blowing in at Wrigley almost all year, right now its playing as a pitchers park and is massively suppressing HR's with a 0.710 HR rating making it the 5th hardest park in all of baseball to hit a HR in this year. Its normally a hitters park when all is said and done.

 

The second thing to consider is other than the Brewers the Cubs have faced nothing but poor offenses all year. So far this season he has faced Cin, Hou, SDP, STLx2, Pitx2.

 

STL has the lowest runs scored of any team in baseball. Pit has the 3rd lowest runs scored. Hou has the 8th lowest, Cin is around league average. SDP are below average. He has faced about the easiest competition of anyone in baseball. The average OPS of batters he has faced this year is .680, thats just horrible.

 

Now to get into his actual results...

 

4.42 K/9, thats terrible

3.03 BB/9 thats well below average

52% GB thats the one positive I see

.217 BABIP thats just plain luck

81.6% LOB again thats just luck

4.05 FIP

 

He is lucky he doesn't have a 4 ERA the way he has pitched and he has faced nothing but easy competition. Expect a huge regression and him not being on a roster by the all star break.

 

i think that a pitcher we've signed to a sizeable three year deal is pretty much guaranteed to be on "a roster by all-star break", but that's just me.

 

but anyway, you remind me of a sox fan. just be happy your team is leading the division. no need to critique ours. to tell you the truth, we're not all that concerned with our team being validated in the eyes of another team's fanbase, if you are, that's great. the brewers are off to a great start, kudos.

[Ender]

This is a post I made for fantasy baseball purposes, read what you will into it but I just wouldn't get excited about him yet...

 

The first thing you have to consider is that the wind has been blowing in at Wrigley almost all year, right now its playing as a pitchers park and is massively suppressing HR's with a 0.710 HR rating making it the 5th hardest park in all of baseball to hit a HR in this year. Its normally a hitters park when all is said and done.

 

The second thing to consider is other than the Brewers the Cubs have faced nothing but poor offenses all year. So far this season he has faced Cin, Hou, SDP, STLx2, Pitx2.

 

STL has the lowest runs scored of any team in baseball. Pit has the 3rd lowest runs scored. Hou has the 8th lowest, Cin is around league average. SDP are below average. He has faced about the easiest competition of anyone in baseball. The average OPS of batters he has faced this year is .680, thats just horrible.

 

Now to get into his actual results...

 

4.42 K/9, thats terrible

3.03 BB/9 thats well below average

52% GB thats the one positive I see

.217 BABIP thats just plain luck

81.6% LOB again thats just luck

4.05 FIP

 

He is lucky he doesn't have a 4 ERA the way he has pitched and he has faced nothing but easy competition. Expect a huge regression and him not being on a roster by the all star break.

 

i think that a pitcher we've signed to a sizeable three year deal is pretty much guaranteed to be on "a roster by all-star break", but that's just me.

 

but anyway, you remind me of a sox fan. just be happy your team is leading the division. no need to critique ours. to tell you the truth, we're not all that concerned with our team being validated in the eyes of another team's fanbase, if you are, that's great. the brewers are off to a great start, kudos.

 

Sorry I didn't mean Marquis would be off the cubs roster, the post was made for a fantasy forum and was just copy and pasted. I don't think Marquis will be worthy of being on a fantasy baseball roster come the all star break. Since they use smaller rosters and K's are very important that doesn't say much about whether he should be the #4 on a real roster.

Edited May 10, 2007 by Ender

[Warpticon]

This is a post I made for fantasy baseball purposes, read what you will into it but I just wouldn't get excited about him yet...

 

The first thing you have to consider is that the wind has been blowing in at Wrigley almost all year, right now its playing as a pitchers park and is massively suppressing HR's with a 0.710 HR rating making it the 5th hardest park in all of baseball to hit a HR in this year. Its normally a hitters park when all is said and done.

 

The second thing to consider is other than the Brewers the Cubs have faced nothing but poor offenses all year. So far this season he has faced Cin, Hou, SDP, STLx2, Pitx2.

 

STL has the lowest runs scored of any team in baseball. Pit has the 3rd lowest runs scored. Hou has the 8th lowest, Cin is around league average. SDP are below average. He has faced about the easiest competition of anyone in baseball. The average OPS of batters he has faced this year is .680, thats just horrible.

 

Now to get into his actual results...

 

4.42 K/9, thats terrible

3.03 BB/9 thats well below average

52% GB thats the one positive I see

.217 BABIP thats just plain luck

81.6% LOB again thats just luck

4.05 FIP

 

He is lucky he doesn't have a 4 ERA the way he has pitched and he has faced nothing but easy competition. Expect a huge regression and him not being on a roster by the all star break.

 

i think that a pitcher we've signed to a sizeable three year deal is pretty much guaranteed to be on "a roster by all-star break", but that's just me.

 

Um, he was talking about a fantasy team roster.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Here's the best part for me. He's been getting better peripherally.

 

First 3 Starts: 9/10 K/BB, 28/17 GO/FO, 1.23 WHIP, 17 IP

Last 3 Starts: 10/3 K/BB, 36/22 GO/FO, 0.88 WHIP, 21.2 IP

 

Update

 

First 3 Starts: 9/10 K/BB, 28/17 GO/FO, 1.23 WHIP, 17 IP

Last 4 Starts: 15/3 K/BB, 43/37 GO/FO, 0.72 WHIP, 30.2 IP

[Magnetic Curses]

This is a post I made for fantasy baseball purposes, read what you will into it but I just wouldn't get excited about him yet...

 

The first thing you have to consider is that the wind has been blowing in at Wrigley almost all year, right now its playing as a pitchers park and is massively suppressing HR's with a 0.710 HR rating making it the 5th hardest park in all of baseball to hit a HR in this year. Its normally a hitters park when all is said and done.

 

The second thing to consider is other than the Brewers the Cubs have faced nothing but poor offenses all year. So far this season he has faced Cin, Hou, SDP, STLx2, Pitx2.

 

STL has the lowest runs scored of any team in baseball. Pit has the 3rd lowest runs scored. Hou has the 8th lowest, Cin is around league average. SDP are below average. He has faced about the easiest competition of anyone in baseball. The average OPS of batters he has faced this year is .680, thats just horrible.

 

Now to get into his actual results...

 

4.42 K/9, thats terrible

3.03 BB/9 thats well below average

52% GB thats the one positive I see

.217 BABIP thats just plain luck

81.6% LOB again thats just luck

4.05 FIP

 

He is lucky he doesn't have a 4 ERA the way he has pitched and he has faced nothing but easy competition. Expect a huge regression and him not being on a roster by the all star break.

 

i think that a pitcher we've signed to a sizeable three year deal is pretty much guaranteed to be on "a roster by all-star break", but that's just me.

 

but anyway, you remind me of a sox fan. just be happy your team is leading the division. no need to critique ours. to tell you the truth, we're not all that concerned with our team being validated in the eyes of another team's fanbase, if you are, that's great. the brewers are off to a great start, kudos.

 

Sorry I didn't mean Marquis would be off the cubs roster, the post was made for a fantasy forum and was just copy and pasted. I don't think Marquis will be worthy of being on a fantasy baseball roster come the all star break. Since they use smaller rosters that doesn't say much about whether he should be the #4 on a real roster.

 

understood, and i wouldn't necessarily argue with that. but why are you so concerned about it?

 

ah whatever, i have a lot of packer fan friends and they need something to get excited about, too.

[Magnetic Curses]

wwopd?

[Ender]

understood, and i wouldn't necessarily argue with that. but why are you so concerned about it?

 

ah whatever, i have a lot of packer fan friends and they need something to get excited about, too.

 

Not excited about it, I just happened to make that post on the fantasy baseball forum I visit about 5 minutes before checking this forum. Since I happened to have already done the research and the top post was about Marquis I copy and pasted it.

[Wheelimus]

I have the following two questions for this supposed "Jason Marquis".

 

Question #1. What did you do with the REAL Jason Marquis?

 

Question #2. Assuming I'm right about the answer to question 1, did you make the hole really, really deep?

 

:lol:

[E.J.]

All I have to say is Holy Crap. I hope he can keep it up. We needed a big game from our starting pitcher last night with the 15 inning game the night before, and Marquis came through in a big way. He's been nothing short of amazing so far. Hopefully he can keep pitching well.

[TheDude]

The second thing to consider is other than the Brewers the Cubs have faced nothing but poor offenses all year. So far this season he has faced Cin, Hou, SDP, STLx2, Pitx2.

 

STL has the lowest runs scored of any team in baseball. Pit has the 3rd lowest runs scored. Hou has the 8th lowest, Cin is around league average. SDP are below average. He has faced about the easiest competition of anyone in baseball. The average OPS of batters he has faced this year is .680, thats just horrible.

 

The only problem I have with this research is that it has elements of a chicken-and-egg set of results. Marquis' starts factor into those depressed numbers, so you can legitimately ask whether it's the cause or the effect.

 

But Marquis' starts aside, in general all those teams with the worst offenses you cited have faced very good pitching for up to half the games played this year:

 

-St. Louis has 15 games against Cubs, Brewers, Mets

-Pitt. has 14 games against Cubs, Brewers, Dodgers

-SD has faced Chicago and LA

-Hou and Cin. both have faced Chicago and Milwaukee

 

All of these teams have faced top 5 NL (Mets, Dodgers, Brewers, Cubs, Padres) pitching numerous times.

 

Now I don't think anyone expects Marquis to keep this up, but Marquis' deserves credit for those starts he has sparkled in thus far this year.