2007 NFL Draft

[texascub]

Ravens take Yamon Figurs, I really like this guy. He might be the best return-man in the draft. Overall he's probably about as good as Ginn but with less exposure.

 

YO!!! Fast as hell, hands aren't dependable all the time, but agreed... probably as much of a play maker as Ginn.

 

Figurs is a great return-man. Probably as good, or better, than Ginn. However, he is going to be nowhere near as good a receiver as Ginn. He doesn't have the hands or the route-running ability. Two things that are probably the most important attributes for a WR.

 

Agreed! I said, play maker, not receiver. He can make people miss...

 

I agree, but both are extremely raw and probably about equal at WR right now.

[ChiCubsFan]

Ravens take Yamon Figurs, I really like this guy. He might be the best return-man in the draft. Overall he's probably about as good as Ginn but with less exposure.

 

YO!!! Fast as hell, hands aren't dependable all the time, but agreed... probably as much of a play maker as Ginn.

 

Figurs is a great return-man. Probably as good, or better, than Ginn. However, he is going to be nowhere near as good a receiver as Ginn. He doesn't have the hands or the route-running ability. Two things that are probably the most important attributes for a WR.

 

Agreed! I said, play maker, not receiver. He can make people miss...

 

I agree, but both are extremely raw and probably about equal at WR right now.

 

That's a lie. They are both very raw at WR, but Ginn is better than Figurs.

[ChiCubsFan]

Ravens take Yamon Figurs, I really like this guy. He might be the best return-man in the draft. Overall he's probably about as good as Ginn but with less exposure.

 

YO!!! Fast as hell, hands aren't dependable all the time, but agreed... probably as much of a play maker as Ginn.

 

Figurs is a great return-man. Probably as good, or better, than Ginn. However, he is going to be nowhere near as good a receiver as Ginn. He doesn't have the hands or the route-running ability. Two things that are probably the most important attributes for a WR.

 

Agreed! I said, play maker, not receiver. He can make people miss...

 

My post was more to the other guy. I just quoted you because it was easier. I agree. Figurs is a huge play maker and will be a very good return man.

[Chocolate Milk]

A lot of returners have gone early this year.

[Andy]

A lot of returners have gone early this year.

Hester Syndrome.

 

I'll be surprised if Ginn becomes a good receiver. You can't really play the "I'm just going to outrun the other team's slow cornerbacks and catch long bombs" ploy when all the cornerbacks are fast.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

So I'm finally getting caught up with the other teams and their picks and have so many questions, but I'll start with the Bears. Why Bazuin? And why Wolfe? I don't understand either of those picks.

I had heard Wolfe rated as a 5th or 6th-rounder, so I have no clue why the Bears scooped him there. I don't know that much about Bazuin but he looks pretty solid.

 

I just don't understand picking a DE that high. Seems like there may have been other areas (OL) of concern.

 

There are other areas of concern but Bazuin is a good talent and one of Alex Brown or Adewale Ogunleye are probably on their way out. The Bears like to rotate their DL, so Bazuin will get his share of playing time. I really liked this pick.

 

The Bears needed a change-of-pace guy, but Wolfe went too high, imo.

[Brian]

I absolutely refuse to question Angelo this early, I don't want him to make me sound like a fool again.

[Soul]

So I'm finally getting caught up with the other teams and their picks and have so many questions, but I'll start with the Bears. Why Bazuin? And why Wolfe? I don't understand either of those picks.

I had heard Wolfe rated as a 5th or 6th-rounder, so I have no clue why the Bears scooped him there. I don't know that much about Bazuin but he looks pretty solid.

 

I just don't understand picking a DE that high. Seems like there may have been other areas (OL) of concern.

 

Well, for one thing teams repeatedly say they don't draft solely based on need.

 

I don't know much about Bazuin, either, so we'll see what happens. The Bears did pick up a pretty good value pick at OG later on.

[Soul]

A lot of returners have gone early this year.

Hester Syndrome.

 

I'll be surprised if Ginn becomes a good receiver. You can't really play the "I'm just going to outrun the other team's slow cornerbacks and catch long bombs" ploy when all the cornerbacks are fast.

 

Hester syndrome is a really expensive disease to contract. Considering the Bears pay Hester reasonable money and the Dolphins will pay Ginn mega-bucks, I'd say the Bears have a more reasonable approach towards staffing their return game.

[texascub]

Well it now looks like the Bears are trying to shop Alex Brown, according to Sun-Times writer Brad Biggs.

[BigSlick]

Things I learned today:

 

- Apparently being the face of ND football is more than enough by itself to knock a great player down NINETEEN spots from where he could've and should've been taken. Cleveland got ass-lucky.

 

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Maybe the NFL knows what we've been saying all along....ND is overrated!

 

 

ND kinda got slapped in the face a little the last two days. Both Darius Walker (Never thought he'd be a pro player, anyway) and Rhema Mcknight didn't get drafted. Abiamiri will be a good player, however, and Harris went to the right team with the Broncos.

 

Interstingly, my draft mag had Brady Quinn completely rated exactly as he was in this draft, going to the Kansas City Chiefs at 23, so I don't expect the people "on the inside" where that surprised he dropped so far.

 

Sean Salisbury can slobber over himself all he wants, but it seems like Quinn was just not that highly sought after.

[OleMissCub]

I'm stunned Chris Leak didn't get picked in the late rounds.

 

I don't care how short the guy is (5'11 7/8), he started at QB four years and played in 51 games in the SEC and had a 61% completion rate with 88 TD's and led his team to a National Championship rout of Ohio State his senior year.

 

I know he'll never be a star in the NFL, but him not getting drafted is just astounding to me considering what he did and the type of good character individual he is.

 

And I'm in no way a Florida homer. So no bias here.

[OleMissCub]

Saints just signed Tyler Palko in the FA. I wanted us to draft a QB in the late rounds, Drew Brees doesn't have a backup at all. Chris Leak or Troy Smith would have been fine with me. I know the scouts might not like them, but they were winners in hard conferences for numerous years.

 

Palko will do ok though

[Andy]

Things I learned today:

 

- Apparently being the face of ND football is more than enough by itself to knock a great player down NINETEEN spots from where he could've and should've been taken. Cleveland got ass-lucky.

 

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Maybe the NFL knows what we've been saying all along....ND is overrated!

 

 

ND kinda got slapped in the face a little the last two days. Both Darius Walker (Never thought he'd be a pro player, anyway) and Rhema Mcknight didn't get drafted. Abiamiri will be a good player, however, and Harris went to the right team with the Broncos.

 

Interstingly, my draft mag had Brady Quinn completely rated exactly as he was in this draft, going to the Kansas City Chiefs at 23, so I don't expect the people "on the inside" where that surprised he dropped so far.

 

Sean Salisbury can slobber over himself all he wants, but it seems like Quinn was just not that highly sought after.

I guess not. I look forward to him proving those teams wrong.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Found this quote from Scout.com, interesting.

 

League sources indicated to scout.com this week that head coach Jack Del Rio favored selecting University of Notre Dame QB Brady Quinn with either the 17th or 21st pick (Jacksonville traded down) but lost out to general manager James Harris as the team chose University of Florida S Reggie Nelson. Many people found choice of Quinn over Nelson surprising as the Jaguar front office preaches the draft strategy of "best player available". One source told us the grade difference between the two players was wide enough to "drive a boat through" with Quinn ranked significantly higher than Nelson by the team.

 

Adding to the frustration for many in the organization was the fact that Jacksonville was offered the same trade in round one by the Cleveland Browns which the Dallas Cowboys accepted. With starting QB Byron Leftwich likely playing his last season for the team, many in their organization are wondering if Quinn was not selected why wouldn't Harris accept the Browns offer? That would give Jacksonville more ammunition to potentially draft either University of Louisville's Brian Brohm or University of Michigan's Chad Henne of Michigan, the top rated quarterbacks heading towards the '08 draft.

 

Link.

[Andy]

Found this quote from Scout.com, interesting.

 

League sources indicated to scout.com this week that head coach Jack Del Rio favored selecting University of Notre Dame QB Brady Quinn with either the 17th or 21st pick (Jacksonville traded down) but lost out to general manager James Harris as the team chose University of Florida S Reggie Nelson. Many people found choice of Quinn over Nelson surprising as the Jaguar front office preaches the draft strategy of "best player available". One source told us the grade difference between the two players was wide enough to "drive a boat through" with Quinn ranked significantly higher than Nelson by the team.

 

Adding to the frustration for many in the organization was the fact that Jacksonville was offered the same trade in round one by the Cleveland Browns which the Dallas Cowboys accepted. With starting QB Byron Leftwich likely playing his last season for the team, many in their organization are wondering if Quinn was not selected why wouldn't Harris accept the Browns offer? That would give Jacksonville more ammunition to potentially draft either University of Louisville's Brian Brohm or University of Michigan's Chad Henne of Michigan, the top rated quarterbacks heading towards the '08 draft.

 

Link.

If Jacksonville drafts Henne they are beyond screwed. That man has little to no future as an NFL quarterback - no better than John Navarre was.

[KaiserCesar]

Found this quote from Scout.com, interesting.

 

League sources indicated to scout.com this week that head coach Jack Del Rio favored selecting University of Notre Dame QB Brady Quinn with either the 17th or 21st pick (Jacksonville traded down) but lost out to general manager James Harris as the team chose University of Florida S Reggie Nelson. Many people found choice of Quinn over Nelson surprising as the Jaguar front office preaches the draft strategy of "best player available". One source told us the grade difference between the two players was wide enough to "drive a boat through" with Quinn ranked significantly higher than Nelson by the team.

 

Adding to the frustration for many in the organization was the fact that Jacksonville was offered the same trade in round one by the Cleveland Browns which the Dallas Cowboys accepted. With starting QB Byron Leftwich likely playing his last season for the team, many in their organization are wondering if Quinn was not selected why wouldn't Harris accept the Browns offer? That would give Jacksonville more ammunition to potentially draft either University of Louisville's Brian Brohm or University of Michigan's Chad Henne of Michigan, the top rated quarterbacks heading towards the '08 draft.

 

Link.

If Jacksonville drafts Henne they are beyond screwed. That man has little to no future as an NFL quarterback - no better than John Navarre was.

 

Why do you say that? A career 60%+ passer with 4 years starting experience looks pretty darn good to me.

[Andy]

Found this quote from Scout.com, interesting.

 

League sources indicated to scout.com this week that head coach Jack Del Rio favored selecting University of Notre Dame QB Brady Quinn with either the 17th or 21st pick (Jacksonville traded down) but lost out to general manager James Harris as the team chose University of Florida S Reggie Nelson. Many people found choice of Quinn over Nelson surprising as the Jaguar front office preaches the draft strategy of "best player available". One source told us the grade difference between the two players was wide enough to "drive a boat through" with Quinn ranked significantly higher than Nelson by the team.

 

Adding to the frustration for many in the organization was the fact that Jacksonville was offered the same trade in round one by the Cleveland Browns which the Dallas Cowboys accepted. With starting QB Byron Leftwich likely playing his last season for the team, many in their organization are wondering if Quinn was not selected why wouldn't Harris accept the Browns offer? That would give Jacksonville more ammunition to potentially draft either University of Louisville's Brian Brohm or University of Michigan's Chad Henne of Michigan, the top rated quarterbacks heading towards the '08 draft.

 

Link.

If Jacksonville drafts Henne they are beyond screwed. That man has little to no future as an NFL quarterback - no better than John Navarre was.

 

Why do you say that? A career 60%+ passer with 4 years starting experience looks pretty darn good to me.

It seems like with all the talent on his team (Hart and Manningham to be specific but there are more) that he should be doing more with it. Part of this may fall under Michigan not passing the ball very much. Although I've watched a fair few Wolverines games over the years, and Henne makes at least one hideously, indescribably bad throw per game.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Maybe it's partially the receivers he has, but it appears to me that Henne throws a remarkably accurate deep ball. Am I crazy?

[KaiserCesar]

Found this quote from Scout.com, interesting.

 

League sources indicated to scout.com this week that head coach Jack Del Rio favored selecting University of Notre Dame QB Brady Quinn with either the 17th or 21st pick (Jacksonville traded down) but lost out to general manager James Harris as the team chose University of Florida S Reggie Nelson. Many people found choice of Quinn over Nelson surprising as the Jaguar front office preaches the draft strategy of "best player available". One source told us the grade difference between the two players was wide enough to "drive a boat through" with Quinn ranked significantly higher than Nelson by the team.

 

Adding to the frustration for many in the organization was the fact that Jacksonville was offered the same trade in round one by the Cleveland Browns which the Dallas Cowboys accepted. With starting QB Byron Leftwich likely playing his last season for the team, many in their organization are wondering if Quinn was not selected why wouldn't Harris accept the Browns offer? That would give Jacksonville more ammunition to potentially draft either University of Louisville's Brian Brohm or University of Michigan's Chad Henne of Michigan, the top rated quarterbacks heading towards the '08 draft.

 

Link.

If Jacksonville drafts Henne they are beyond screwed. That man has little to no future as an NFL quarterback - no better than John Navarre was.

 

Why do you say that? A career 60%+ passer with 4 years starting experience looks pretty darn good to me.

It seems like with all the talent on his team (Hart and Manningham to be specific but there are more) that he should be doing more with it. Part of this may fall under Michigan not passing the ball very much. Although I've watched a fair few Wolverines games over the years, and Henne makes at least one hideously, indescribably bad throw per game.

 

I think the rise of Manningham was accredited too little to Chad Henne himself during this past year. This past year he improved to 61.9% completion and 7.65 YPA, but these are only gradual improvements from 60.2, 58.4 and 6.88, 6.81 to suggest that its not a fluke year. We'll see how he does this year, but similar performance or slightly improved will see him rated as a top 2 QB, and there's no reason to believe he won't perform at that level. As for the 1 terrible throw per game, there's room to improve, yes, I'll agree.