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That's a pathetic pick.

 

I'm not so sure about that. I would have gone Quinn though, but maybe Ted's got something else in mind. They certainly know Favre's not playing forever, and Rodgers is unlikely to be the answer.

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sherwood921 Draft Eligible

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That's great, show a bunch of kids booing their teams pick. I'm sure that makes Harrell feel great.

 

And why the hell should the Packers pick a WR just to make Brett Favre happy? Making your team better should be the goal. Young is being an idiot.

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The more I think about it, we're definitely getting Moss now. Cullen Jenkins is going to be a DE now and we do have an open spot at DT. I see KGB and a later pick being moved to get Moss.

 

yea, rationalize it!!!!

 

(I'm just teasing you)

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Obviously people who follow college football knew about him - he went to LS-freaking-U. Of course people are going to know about him. What are you going to tell me next, they knew about Brady Quinn too?

 

Yes I've been following the discussion hence the reason I'm posting. Soul was obviously exaggerating when he said that Russell was "literally nowhere". I don't think Russell was a first round pick before the Sugar Bowl.

 

And if saying Quinn was #1 before the Sugar Bowl means nothing is absolutely absurd. You're the one bringing up what scouts thought of Russell for the past few years.

 

You aren't following. I'm saying they knew of his as a big-time draft prospect. Which you apparently didn't.

 

How can you exaggerate and use the word literally in a sentence. Think about that for a minute.

 

Quinn being No. 1 before the draft proves that pre-work out draft boards are meaningless. Because Russell wasn't on them at some arbitrary point during the season doesn't mean that scouts were sleeping on him and he just skyrocketed out of nowhere.

 

Exactly.

 

Soul, I can't believe you compared Navarre to JMR.

 

I made the comparison because IMB based his big-time status on those physical attributes. So what? Make a better argument next time for why Russell's a big-time prospect.

 

I didn't base it on that, though that's all I mentioned. Obviously there was more than that on his scouting report. Hell, I bet NFL scouting directors knew more about him than before he even started practice his freshman year.

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Obviously people who follow college football knew about him - he went to LS-freaking-U. Of course people are going to know about him. What are you going to tell me next, they knew about Brady Quinn too?

 

Yes I've been following the discussion hence the reason I'm posting. Soul was obviously exaggerating when he said that Russell was "literally nowhere". I don't think Russell was a first round pick before the Sugar Bowl.

 

And if saying Quinn was #1 before the Sugar Bowl means nothing is absolutely absurd. You're the one bringing up what scouts thought of Russell for the past few years.

 

You aren't following. I'm saying they knew of his as a big-time draft prospect. Which you apparently didn't.

 

How can you exaggerate and use the word literally in a sentence. Think about that for a minute.

 

Quinn being No. 1 before the draft proves that pre-work out draft boards are meaningless. Because Russell wasn't on them at some arbitrary point during the season doesn't mean that scouts were sleeping on him and he just skyrocketed out of nowhere.

 

I knew about Russell as a solid prospect. He was not a "big time prospect" which I would define as a top 10 or 15 pick i.e. a sure first rounder. He didn't get close to that level until the Sugar Bowl.

 

And if pre-work out draft boards are meaningless then what does that say about what people thought about his pro prospects coming out of high school - which you brought into the discussion to defend Russell? Wouldn't those be even more meaningless?

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That's great, show a bunch of kids booing their teams pick. I'm sure that makes Harrell feel great.

 

And why the hell should the Packers pick a WR just to make Brett Favre happy? Making your team better should be the goal. Young is being an idiot.

 

No kidding. Of course Young wants Favre to get his way, duh.

 

The Packers need to think about more than what Favre wants. Favre is not the future of that football team.

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texascub

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This draft is shaping up really good for the Cowboys. I'd love to get any one of Branch, Hall, Ross, Meachem, Bowe, Nelson, Merriweather....pretty much all of my top picks are still out there for us.
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Obviously people who follow college football knew about him - he went to LS-freaking-U. Of course people are going to know about him. What are you going to tell me next, they knew about Brady Quinn too?

 

Yes I've been following the discussion hence the reason I'm posting. Soul was obviously exaggerating when he said that Russell was "literally nowhere". I don't think Russell was a first round pick before the Sugar Bowl.

 

And if saying Quinn was #1 before the Sugar Bowl means nothing is absolutely absurd. You're the one bringing up what scouts thought of Russell for the past few years.

 

You aren't following. I'm saying they knew of his as a big-time draft prospect. Which you apparently didn't.

 

How can you exaggerate and use the word literally in a sentence. Think about that for a minute.

 

Quinn being No. 1 before the draft proves that pre-work out draft boards are meaningless. Because Russell wasn't on them at some arbitrary point during the season doesn't mean that scouts were sleeping on him and he just skyrocketed out of nowhere.

 

Exactly.

 

Soul, I can't believe you compared Navarre to JMR.

 

I made the comparison because IMB based his big-time status on those physical attributes. So what? Make a better argument next time for why Russell's a big-time prospect.

 

Russell has done a whole lot more on the field, against much tougher opponents.

 

JMR was on scouts' radars before this season - he was earmarked as a likely first rounder all season.

 

Oh, and for the record, I think Quinn will have a better NFL career and I would have taken Calvin Johnson with the first pick overall. But, JMR didn't just come out of nowhere because of the Sugar Bowl (and he didn't need the workouts to become the top overall pick as you said earlier).

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Young is being an idiot.

 

 

not really. I think his point was the packers need more help on O then they do on D, not jsut making favre happy..

 

They were 25th in the league on D. He keeps repeating "it shows you something. When the 49ers picked a defensive player instead of an O-line guy, it wasn't the end of the world, but it showed me something."

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Soul

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Young is being an idiot.

 

 

not really. I think his point was the packers need more help on O then they do on D, not jsut making favre happy..

 

Do they though? I thought they were ranked #9 on O.

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imb

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Obviously people who follow college football knew about him - he went to LS-freaking-U. Of course people are going to know about him. What are you going to tell me next, they knew about Brady Quinn too?

 

Yes I've been following the discussion hence the reason I'm posting. Soul was obviously exaggerating when he said that Russell was "literally nowhere". I don't think Russell was a first round pick before the Sugar Bowl.

 

And if saying Quinn was #1 before the Sugar Bowl means nothing is absolutely absurd. You're the one bringing up what scouts thought of Russell for the past few years.

 

You aren't following. I'm saying they knew of his as a big-time draft prospect. Which you apparently didn't.

 

How can you exaggerate and use the word literally in a sentence. Think about that for a minute.

 

Quinn being No. 1 before the draft proves that pre-work out draft boards are meaningless. Because Russell wasn't on them at some arbitrary point during the season doesn't mean that scouts were sleeping on him and he just skyrocketed out of nowhere.

 

I knew about Russell as a solid prospect. He was not a "big time prospect" which I would define as a top 10 or 15 pick i.e. a sure first rounder. He didn't get close to that level until the Sugar Bowl.

 

And if pre-work out draft boards are meaningless then what does that say about what people thought about his pro prospects coming out of high school - which you brought into the discussion to defend Russell? Wouldn't those be even more meaningless?

 

You're really reaching here. Pre workout draft boards are meaningless because they fluctuate so much from that time until draft day. Keeping up with who has pro potential coming out of high school is an important part of team's scouting. There's no connection.

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minnesotacubsfan

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Young is being an idiot.

 

 

not really. I think his point was the packers need more help on O then they do on D, not jsut making favre happy..

 

They were 25th in the league on D. He keeps repeating "it shows you something. When the 49ers picked a defensive player instead of an O-line guy, it wasn't the end of the world, but it showed me something."

 

I'm not agreeing with his assesment, but I am saying he isn't an idot for it....

 

packers need alot of help, O and D

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soccer10k

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Russell has done a whole lot more on the field, against much tougher opponents.

 

And how much of that was due to the talent at LSU? I'm guessing a lot. I'm not saying Russell would have been trash otherwise but he wouldn't be anywhere near the prospect he is if he switched spots with Quinn. The talent at LSU was miles ahead of the talent at Notre Dame the last couple years.

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Soul

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Obviously people who follow college football knew about him - he went to LS-freaking-U. Of course people are going to know about him. What are you going to tell me next, they knew about Brady Quinn too?

 

Yes I've been following the discussion hence the reason I'm posting. Soul was obviously exaggerating when he said that Russell was "literally nowhere". I don't think Russell was a first round pick before the Sugar Bowl.

 

And if saying Quinn was #1 before the Sugar Bowl means nothing is absolutely absurd. You're the one bringing up what scouts thought of Russell for the past few years.

 

You aren't following. I'm saying they knew of his as a big-time draft prospect. Which you apparently didn't.

 

How can you exaggerate and use the word literally in a sentence. Think about that for a minute.

 

Quinn being No. 1 before the draft proves that pre-work out draft boards are meaningless. Because Russell wasn't on them at some arbitrary point during the season doesn't mean that scouts were sleeping on him and he just skyrocketed out of nowhere.

 

Exactly.

 

Soul, I can't believe you compared Navarre to JMR.

 

I made the comparison because IMB based his big-time status on those physical attributes. So what? Make a better argument next time for why Russell's a big-time prospect.

 

Russell has done a whole lot more on the field, against much tougher opponents.

 

JMR was on scouts' radars before this season - he was earmarked as a likely first rounder all season.

 

Oh, and for the record, I think Quinn will have a better NFL career and I would have taken Calvin Johnson with the first pick overall. But, JMR didn't just come out of nowhere because of the Sugar Bowl (and he didn't need the workouts to become the top overall pick as you said earlier).

 

Alright. That's why I asked for a definition of big time prospect. To me, players drafted late in the 1st round are generally not big time prospects.

 

And BTW, there's always many more than 32 players who are considered "1st round picks" each year by someone or another. So that just doesn't have a lot of meaning for me.

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minnesotacubsfan

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Young is being an idiot.

 

 

not really. I think his point was the packers need more help on O then they do on D, not jsut making favre happy..

 

Do they though? I thought they were ranked #9 on O.

 

well, look who they lost....Green and Henderson and Walker

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