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4/15 Cubs (Lilly) vs. Reds (Lohse) 1:20 CT WGN / XM188

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At least Lohse probably won't pitch the 9th.

Nah it will be David Weathers who cuts through our offense like a a knife through hot butter.

 

Wish he coulda done that to other teams in '01 with the Cubs.

Other teams take pitches and work the count. Making his crappiness appear. We just swing.
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There's no guarantee he would have been out. There also nothing wrong with forcing them to make perfect throws.

 

The thing is, it didn't really have to be a perfect throw, there was a decent chance Soriano would have been out. There is no good reason to risk that with nobody out and a man on third. Quade's call was the right one at the time. In retrospect, it would have been nice if Soriano had run home and beaten the throw, but you shouldn't assume that the middle of your order will K if you are the 3rd base coach.

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why didn't Quade send Soriano on Riot's single??

Cause we had no outs and 3,4,5 coming up.

 

it was dumb. Soriano is fast enough to score

 

The rule of thumb that 3rd base coaches uses is this: If the ball gets to the OFer (in this case the CFer) before the runner even gets to third you hold the runner up. In this case Soriano was a good 3 steps away from 3rd when the ball got to Freel. Holding Soriano up there was the good call.

 

Yeah, I don't think you can fault Quade for not wanting to risk a baserunner on third with nobody out and the best hitters in the lineup at bat.

 

none of those guys have gotten a hit today.

 

give me a break.

 

freel threw home and it was cut off because soriano was standing on 3rd.

 

Give me a break, they should have forced the action when runs are scare. Force them to make a good throw. Quade sent Theriot is a similar situation in MIL (the CF had the ball and if it hadn't been for a great slide he was out).

 

whatever...you're just mad b/c the cubs didn't score. you weren't saying crap about it until it looked like the cubs weren't going to score.

 

making the first out at home with no outs and the heart of the order coming up in a 1-0 game is about as stupid as it gets.

 

That's not true. I said it at the time. My post didn't come after the inning was over. As soon as Theriot hit the ball, I thought Soriano would tie the game.

 

There's no guarantee he would have been out. There is also nothing wrong with forcing them to make perfect throws.

 

And if Soriano gets thrown out at homeplate, you would be complaining that Quade is the new "Wavin' Wendall." There is a time and place to "forced the OFer to make the throw", but in the fifth inning, with the middle of the order coming up, is NOT that time.

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That's not true. I said it at the time. My post didn't come after the inning was over. As soon as Theriot hit the ball, I thought Soriano would tie the game.

 

There's no guarantee he would have been out. There is also nothing wrong with forcing them to make perfect throws.

 

If he sent Soriano there and he was thrown out at home would you be saying that testing Freel's arm was the smart thing to do? I doubt that. You would likely be saying how horrible of an idea it was to make the first out of the inning at home plate with the Cubs down 1 and the heart of the order coming up. It was the right move to hold Soriano there. Most times, the Cubs 3-4-5 hitters are going to at least get that one run home in that situation.

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why didn't Quade send Soriano on Riot's single??

Cause we had no outs and 3,4,5 coming up.

 

it was dumb. Soriano is fast enough to score

 

The rule of thumb that 3rd base coaches uses is this: If the ball gets to the OFer (in this case the CFer) before the runner even gets to third you hold the runner up. In this case Soriano was a good 3 steps away from 3rd when the ball got to Freel. Holding Soriano up there was the good call.

 

Yeah, I don't think you can fault Quade for not wanting to risk a baserunner on third with nobody out and the best hitters in the lineup at bat.

 

none of those guys have gotten a hit today.

 

give me a break.

 

freel threw home and it was cut off because soriano was standing on 3rd.

 

Give me a break, they should have forced the action when runs are scare. Force them to make a good throw. Quade sent Theriot is a similar situation in MIL (the CF had the ball and if it hadn't been for a great slide he was out).

 

whatever...you're just mad b/c the cubs didn't score. you weren't saying crap about it until it looked like the cubs weren't going to score.

 

making the first out at home with no outs and the heart of the order coming up in a 1-0 game is about as stupid as it gets.

 

That's not true. I said it at the time. My post didn't come after the inning was over. As soon as Theriot hit the ball, I thought Soriano would tie the game.

 

There's no guarantee he would have been out. There is also nothing wrong with forcing them to make perfect throws.

 

if he would have been thrown out, you would have bitched to high heaven about it. you're just frustrated with this terrible team.

 

I don't know what my reaction would have been, had he been thrown out, but I was definitely expecting him to be sent!

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