NCAA Tournament Thread

[Derwood]

so, quick 2 and foul, or shoot the 3?

 

Quick 2 and a foul.

 

i agree

[Derwood]

falker traveled, but it doesn't matter

[CaliforniaRaisin]

big shot. and there was a non-call on a possible charge that went SIU's way, so the refs are evening things out

 

Not completely.

 

i still don't believe in refs deciding games. it's easy to say refs are calling against your team when you're biased for your team. same goes with people saying announcers hate their team. they only hear the bad things about their team and not the other

 

I want KU to win. So how am I being biased?

 

all i'm saying is that if SIU loses, it will be due to missed layups, not the refs

 

and there's no guarantee they lose if KU keeps shooting free throws like the Illini (sorry, couldn't help myself)

 

So the game wouldn't be different if they waved off Julian Wright's dunk in the first half and got the goaltending call when Tatum was fouled in the second half? In such a close game, that could have been the difference - SIU isn't afforded the chances that KU was.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

big shot. and there was a non-call on a possible charge that went SIU's way, so the refs are evening things out

 

Not completely.

 

i still don't believe in refs deciding games. it's easy to say refs are calling against your team when you're biased for your team. same goes with people saying announcers hate their team. they only hear the bad things about their team and not the other

 

I want KU to win. So how am I being biased?

 

all i'm saying is that if SIU loses, it will be due to missed layups, not the refs

 

and there's no guarantee they lose if KU keeps shooting free throws like the Illini (sorry, couldn't help myself)

Raisin we aren't supposed to talk about teams not in it anymore.

 

Come on Derwood. You could have helped yourself.

[Derwood]

big shot. and there was a non-call on a possible charge that went SIU's way, so the refs are evening things out

 

Not completely.

 

i still don't believe in refs deciding games. it's easy to say refs are calling against your team when you're biased for your team. same goes with people saying announcers hate their team. they only hear the bad things about their team and not the other

 

I want KU to win. So how am I being biased?

 

all i'm saying is that if SIU loses, it will be due to missed layups, not the refs

 

and there's no guarantee they lose if KU keeps shooting free throws like the Illini (sorry, couldn't help myself)

 

So the game wouldn't be different if they waved off Julian Wright's dunk in the first half and got the goaltending call when Tatum was fouled in the second half? In such a close game, that could have been the difference - SIU isn't afforded the chances that KU was.

 

different? sure, but a lot of the game would be different. you can't assume that every other play in the game would have been the same had those two calls not been made

[Sosa21MVP]

big shot. and there was a non-call on a possible charge that went SIU's way, so the refs are evening things out

 

Not completely.

 

i still don't believe in refs deciding games. it's easy to say refs are calling against your team when you're biased for your team. same goes with people saying announcers hate their team. they only hear the bad things about their team and not the other

 

I want KU to win. So how am I being biased?

 

all i'm saying is that if SIU loses, it will be due to missed layups, not the refs

 

and there's no guarantee they lose if KU keeps shooting free throws like the Illini (sorry, couldn't help myself)

 

So the game wouldn't be different if they waved off Julian Wright's dunk in the first half and got the goaltending call when Tatum was fouled in the second half? In such a close game, that could have been the difference - SIU isn't afforded the chances that KU was.

 

Meh, SIU has had plenty of chances tonight. Missing two layups at point blank off that one steal was probably the turning point against them.

[CubColtPacer]

I liked the shot attempt-SIU isn't the type to be able to get a quick layup, and a 3 like that is better than any other 2 point attempt. He got a clean look at the basket, it just didn't go down.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

big shot. and there was a non-call on a possible charge that went SIU's way, so the refs are evening things out

 

Not completely.

 

i still don't believe in refs deciding games. it's easy to say refs are calling against your team when you're biased for your team. same goes with people saying announcers hate their team. they only hear the bad things about their team and not the other

 

I want KU to win. So how am I being biased?

 

all i'm saying is that if SIU loses, it will be due to missed layups, not the refs

 

and there's no guarantee they lose if KU keeps shooting free throws like the Illini (sorry, couldn't help myself)

 

So the game wouldn't be different if they waved off Julian Wright's dunk in the first half and got the goaltending call when Tatum was fouled in the second half? In such a close game, that could have been the difference - SIU isn't afforded the chances that KU was.

 

different? sure, but a lot of the game would be different. you can't assume that every other play in the game would have been the same had those two calls not been made

 

I didn't assume anything.

[Derwood]

good game. I was rooting for SIU, but KU was the winner in my bracket.

[illiniguy]

big shot. and there was a non-call on a possible charge that went SIU's way, so the refs are evening things out

 

Not completely.

 

i still don't believe in refs deciding games. it's easy to say refs are calling against your team when you're biased for your team. same goes with people saying announcers hate their team. they only hear the bad things about their team and not the other

 

I want KU to win. So how am I being biased?

 

all i'm saying is that if SIU loses, it will be due to missed layups, not the refs

 

and there's no guarantee they lose if KU keeps shooting free throws like the Illini (sorry, couldn't help myself)

 

So the game wouldn't be different if they waved off Julian Wright's dunk in the first half and got the goaltending call when Tatum was fouled in the second half? In such a close game, that could have been the difference - SIU isn't afforded the chances that KU was.

 

Meh, SIU has had plenty of chances tonight. Missing two layups at point blank off that one steal was probably the turning point against them.

They got screwed out of 4 points and lost by 3. Missed layups or not, that isn't right.

Edited March 23, 2007 by illiniguy

[CaliforniaRaisin]

big shot. and there was a non-call on a possible charge that went SIU's way, so the refs are evening things out

 

Not completely.

 

i still don't believe in refs deciding games. it's easy to say refs are calling against your team when you're biased for your team. same goes with people saying announcers hate their team. they only hear the bad things about their team and not the other

 

I want KU to win. So how am I being biased?

 

all i'm saying is that if SIU loses, it will be due to missed layups, not the refs

 

and there's no guarantee they lose if KU keeps shooting free throws like the Illini (sorry, couldn't help myself)

 

So the game wouldn't be different if they waved off Julian Wright's dunk in the first half and got the goaltending call when Tatum was fouled in the second half? In such a close game, that could have been the difference - SIU isn't afforded the chances that KU was.

 

Meh, SIU has had plenty of chances tonight. Missing two layups at point blank off that one steal was probably the turning point against them.

 

No doubt, but it's a different game if the refs make the right call on those two plays.

[Derwood]

big shot. and there was a non-call on a possible charge that went SIU's way, so the refs are evening things out

 

Not completely.

 

i still don't believe in refs deciding games. it's easy to say refs are calling against your team when you're biased for your team. same goes with people saying announcers hate their team. they only hear the bad things about their team and not the other

 

I want KU to win. So how am I being biased?

 

all i'm saying is that if SIU loses, it will be due to missed layups, not the refs

 

and there's no guarantee they lose if KU keeps shooting free throws like the Illini (sorry, couldn't help myself)

 

So the game wouldn't be different if they waved off Julian Wright's dunk in the first half and got the goaltending call when Tatum was fouled in the second half? In such a close game, that could have been the difference - SIU isn't afforded the chances that KU was.

 

different? sure, but a lot of the game would be different. you can't assume that every other play in the game would have been the same had those two calls not been made

 

I didn't assume anything.

 

i think you know what i'm saying

[Flames24Rulz]

This is depressing.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

That was a brutal pass attempt by Falkner, he's gonna remember that for a while.

[Derwood]

This is depressing.

 

your guys played a heck of a game. I'd be proud if my school played that hard against KU. Oh wait, my school beat KU. But my team didnt' make it to the tourney, so you're still in better shape.

[ChiCubsFan]

That was a brutal pass attempt by Falkner, he's gonna remember that for a while.

 

Yeah, he started to pass it and then saw the KU guy in the way so he tried to stop. Then he realized he was about to travel so he got rid of it.

[illiniguy]

This is depressing.

 

your guys played a heck of a game. I'd be proud if my school played that hard against KU. Oh wait, my school beat KU. But my team didnt' make it to the tourney, so you're still in better shape.

If your team didn't make the routny you shouldn't be talking about them in the tourny thread. A bit hypocritical no?

[Sosa21MVP]

big shot. and there was a non-call on a possible charge that went SIU's way, so the refs are evening things out

 

Not completely.

 

i still don't believe in refs deciding games. it's easy to say refs are calling against your team when you're biased for your team. same goes with people saying announcers hate their team. they only hear the bad things about their team and not the other

 

I want KU to win. So how am I being biased?

 

all i'm saying is that if SIU loses, it will be due to missed layups, not the refs

 

and there's no guarantee they lose if KU keeps shooting free throws like the Illini (sorry, couldn't help myself)

 

So the game wouldn't be different if they waved off Julian Wright's dunk in the first half and got the goaltending call when Tatum was fouled in the second half? In such a close game, that could have been the difference - SIU isn't afforded the chances that KU was.

 

Meh, SIU has had plenty of chances tonight. Missing two layups at point blank off that one steal was probably the turning point against them.

They got screwed out of 4 points and lost by 3. Missed layups or not, that isn't right.

 

At the end of the game if a team is left blaming the refs over some calls then they didn't do enough themselves to win the game. It's pretty cut and dry in my eyes. SIU also missed a lot of open 3 balls. The opportunities were there.

[Sosa21MVP]

big shot. and there was a non-call on a possible charge that went SIU's way, so the refs are evening things out

 

Not completely.

 

i still don't believe in refs deciding games. it's easy to say refs are calling against your team when you're biased for your team. same goes with people saying announcers hate their team. they only hear the bad things about their team and not the other

 

I want KU to win. So how am I being biased?

 

all i'm saying is that if SIU loses, it will be due to missed layups, not the refs

 

and there's no guarantee they lose if KU keeps shooting free throws like the Illini (sorry, couldn't help myself)

 

So the game wouldn't be different if they waved off Julian Wright's dunk in the first half and got the goaltending call when Tatum was fouled in the second half? In such a close game, that could have been the difference - SIU isn't afforded the chances that KU was.

 

Meh, SIU has had plenty of chances tonight. Missing two layups at point blank off that one steal was probably the turning point against them.

 

No doubt, but it's a different game if the refs make the right call on those two plays.

 

It's a different game if SIU makes more open shots and layups too. *shrugs*

[Derwood]

This is depressing.

 

your guys played a heck of a game. I'd be proud if my school played that hard against KU. Oh wait, my school beat KU. But my team didnt' make it to the tourney, so you're still in better shape.

If your team didn't make the routny you shouldn't be talking about them in the tourny thread. A bit hypocritical no?

 

oh shut up

[CubinNY]

Memphis A&M is a great game

 

63-63 A&M 3 min to go.

[snoodmonger]

This is depressing.

 

 

I know you don't want to hear it, but IMO, you were no worse than the 3rd best team we played this year. Probably the second best. (ahead of aTm, behind Florida.) That's a fun team to watch, unless your team is playing them.

 

Great game.

[CubColtPacer]

All Raisin is saying is that KU had more opportunities to make mistakes and still win because of the referees. Both teams could have minimized their mistakes and played better, sure. However, they played pretty equally and made about the same number of mistakes-the difference in the score could certainly be attributed to a few calls by the referees. SIU still had their opportunities to try to make up that disadvantage, but they shouldn't have been put at that disadvantage to begin with.

[snoodmonger]

All Raisin is saying is that KU had more opportunities to make mistakes and still win because of the referees. Both teams could have minimized their mistakes and played better, sure. However, they played pretty equally and made about the same number of mistakes-the difference in the score could certainly be attributed to a few calls by the referees. SIU still had their opportunities to try to make up that disadvantage, but they shouldn't have been put at that disadvantage to begin with.

 

KU definitely caught some breaks. It happens in every game. Does it suck for SIU? Yeah. But that's how sports work.

[illiniguy]

This is depressing.

 

your guys played a heck of a game. I'd be proud if my school played that hard against KU. Oh wait, my school beat KU. But my team didnt' make it to the tourney, so you're still in better shape.

If your team didn't make the routny you shouldn't be talking about them in the tourny thread. A bit hypocritical no?

 

oh shut up

Nice. Yet the mods tell the Illinois and Indiana fans to let it go. But you can take a shot at us, then attack a poster by telling them to shut up.