Sosa Has Arrived in Rangers Camp

[Larry Horse]

OMG HE USED THE WORD 'I' LIKE A MILLION TIMES IN THAT QUOTE!!! HE'S NOT A TEAM PLAYERRRR!!!!

 

 

Please. It's nonsense.

 

My apologies. I don't know where, given his past behavior, I would think that Sammy is not a "team player".

 

And my post was nonsense? Wow.

[David]

OMG HE USED THE WORD 'I' LIKE A MILLION TIMES IN THAT QUOTE!!! HE'S NOT A TEAM PLAYERRRR!!!!

 

 

Please. It's nonsense.

 

My apologies. I don't know where, given his past behavior, I would think that Sammy is not a "team player".

 

And my post was nonsense? Wow.

 

The idea of team players in baseball is pure and utter conventional wisdom nonsense.

 

EDIT - And what Chris said.

Edited March 16, 2007 by David

[Chris]

And my post was nonsense? Wow.

 

Would you rather Sammy refer to Sammy in the 3rd person?

 

I can tell you about his rehab assignment in west Tennessee and all of the great things he did for the minor leaguers, their families and the community. Oh yeah, the media didn't jump all over those stories.

[Larry Horse]

And I could tell you about Sammy corking his bat...."I'm in the house"....him responding to a reporter's question if the Cubs were still his team "What the **** do you think?"...Sammy mysteriously forgetting his english during the steroid hearings...For some unknown reason his boombox being smashed up by a teammate....

 

I'll agree to disagree with the Sammy fans on this one.

[Chris]

edit- much appreciation Edited March 16, 2007 by Chris

[Chris]

Everyone has their bad times, but I choose to appreciate all of the good that Sammy did. If people want to choose to villify him then that's cool. A refusal to accept and appreciate the good that he did is another.

[go_cubs_go]

We should trade for Sammy.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

We should trade for Sammy.

 

As much as I love Sammy, I wouldn't go that far.

[David]

And I could tell you about Sammy corking his bat...."I'm in the house"....him responding to a reporter's question if the Cubs were still his team "What the **** do you think?"...Sammy mysteriously forgetting his english during the steroid hearings...For some unknown reason his boombox being smashed up by a teammate....

 

I'll agree to disagree with the Sammy fans on this one.

 

Most of these are valid and if you choose to vilify him for that stuff, fine. The corked bat, even though it does nothing to help him as a hitter, does reflect on his character because he likely fully believed that it would give him an edge.

 

The thing about the steroid hearings gets to me, though. I really don't understand why people don't get this. I speak Spanish at home, and I'm very comfortable with it (probably significantly more comfortable with it than Sammy is with English). Still, if I were in another country and was placed in a similar situation (where every word was under a microscope and the things I said were under so much scrutiny), I would feel far more comfortable saying whatever I had to say in English, my primary language.

 

 

Is it so hard to understand that in such a setting he feels more comfortable with an interpreter????

[fromthestretch]

I think the unending myopic Sammy love on this board is "ridiculous".

 

I could frankly care less if anyone likes/hates Sosa. Obviously, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

 

The problem I have is when people who don't like Sosa verbally bash those that actually still think of him in a positive light. Seriously, implying that people are narrow-minded for thinking fondly of a guy that was one of the best players in franchise history is a bit much.

 

 

 

 

 

Unless, of course, you meant "myopic" and "ridiculous" in their rarely used flattering sense.

[The Voice of Reason]

Everyone has their bad times, but I choose to appreciate all of the good that Sammy did. If people want to choose to villify him then that's cool. A refusal to accept and appreciate the good that he did is another.

 

 

Like his charitable foundation?

 

http://www.sportslawnews.com/archive/Articles%202000/Sosacharity.htm

[CubinNY]

And I could tell you about Sammy corking his bat...."I'm in the house"....him responding to a reporter's question if the Cubs were still his team "What the **** do you think?"...Sammy mysteriously forgetting his english during the steroid hearings...For some unknown reason his boombox being smashed up by a teammate....

 

I'll agree to disagree with the Sammy fans on this one.

 

That's BS.

 

He appologized for the cork incident and he didn't mysteriously forget English. He brought someone to help him.

 

He may not have beent he best teammate, but let's not go overboard. He played hard every game and he played well. He did a lot of good for the fans when he was in Chicago.

 

I think it is quite pathetic that some people will let the Jay Marrotti's and Gene Wojohowski's of the world color their image of Sammy.

[Chris]

I don't understand how being the recipent of a boox box beating marks Sammy as a bad person. I'd take Sammy's production over the production of the guy that attacked the boombox. Besides, I'd rather guys produce on the field than love one another off the field.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I don't understand how being the recipent of a boox box beating marks Sammy as a bad person. I'd take Sammy's production over the production of the guy that attacked the boombox. Besides, I'd rather guys produce on the field than love one another off the field.

 

And if the rumor that Wood smashed the boom box is true, Sosa has provided the Cubs much more value per contract than Wood ever did.

 

I think it says a lot more about the character of the one doing the smashing than the owner of said boombox.

[Chris]

I don't understand how being the recipent of a boox box beating marks Sammy as a bad person. I'd take Sammy's production over the production of the guy that attacked the boombox. Besides, I'd rather guys produce on the field than love one another off the field.

 

And if the rumor that Wood smashed the boom box is true, Sosa has provided the Cubs much more value per contract than Wood ever did.

 

I think it says a lot more about the character of the one doing the smashing than the owner of said boombox.

 

we have a winner!

[go_cubs_go]

if someone smashed my boombox i would be pissed too.

[Mizzou]

Everyone has their bad times, but I choose to appreciate all of the good that Sammy did. If people want to choose to villify him then that's cool. A refusal to accept and appreciate the good that he did is another.

 

 

Like his charitable foundation?

 

http://www.sportslawnews.com/archive/Articles%202000/Sosacharity.htm

Sammy not donating money to charity is now a strike against him? Wow.

[J.R.]

Sammy is awesome.

[Larry Horse]

I think the unending myopic Sammy love on this board is "ridiculous".

 

I could frankly care less if anyone likes/hates Sosa. Obviously, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

 

The problem I have is when people who don't like Sosa verbally bash those that actually still think of him in a positive light. Seriously, implying that people are narrow-minded for thinking fondly of a guy that was one of the best players in franchise history is a bit much.

 

 

 

 

 

Unless, of course, you meant "myopic" and "ridiculous" in their rarely used flattering sense.

 

And the people who like Sosa bash those who don't. It goes both ways. As you said, everyone is entitled to their opinion. "Ridiculous" was used to describe the Sammy bashing.

[Bruno7481]

I appreciate what Sosa did for the Cubs, but I don't really consider myself a "fan" of his.

 

At the same time I don't ridicule, or think less of, those that do still hold him in high regard.

 

I lost a lot of respect for him after the bat incident. The whole, "I picked up the wrong bat, the bat I use in BP to show off for the fans" excuse was comical.

 

I do know that he was not very well-liked, or even respected by a lot of his teammates. That comes form a former teammate who has no reason to make it up.

 

I don't doubt that he has done good things in his life. He was decent to me the one time I met him.

 

His public image is mostly an act though, although he is not the lone offender in that reagard in our world today.

[rocket]

sosa was basically written off by everyone in the baseball world, except one guy gave him a chance. sosa used that chance and produced tremendously. now he's asked about it by the media and he's obviously proud of himself, so what happens? people point out that he's talking about himself and they look at how many times he uses the word "i". can't he be proud of an individual accomplishment? and how come people don't understand that to be the ultimate team player, your personal stats should be at their best. sammy hitting homeruns for himself helps the team tremendously. it's almost impossible to be a selfish player in baseball.

[wolf stansson]

sammy hitting homeruns for himself helps the team tremendously. it's almost impossible to be a selfish player in baseball.

Now stop it. That actually makes sense. We can't have that in a thread such as this one.

[n l doormat]

Rocket Sauce wrote: sosa was basically written off by everyone in the baseball world, except one guy gave him a chance. sosa used that chance and produced tremendously.

 

How has he produced? Wouldn't it make sense to actually wait until the season starts before we decide he has produced tremendously? Or for that matter, if his comeback is successful or not?

[Soul]

Rocket Sauce wrote: sosa was basically written off by everyone in the baseball world, except one guy gave him a chance. sosa used that chance and produced tremendously.

 

How has he produced? Wouldn't it make sense to actually wait until the season starts before we decide he has produced tremendously? Or for that matter, if his comeback is successful or not?

 

He was signed to a minor league deal, and required to produce in ST or he wouldn't make the major league roster. In Sammy's case, his ST production actually makes the difference between washing out and getting a shot with the big league club.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Sosa's line this spring: 408/.444/.816

 

Let's hope he can keep it up for the Rangers. Supposedly, he's going to hit fifth in the line-up.