NFC Championship: Bears vs. Saints - Sun Jan 21, 2 pm CST

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Benson also hasn't fumbled this year. So he's got that going for him.

 

I could've sworn he fumbled earlier in the year. It was around the time he was complaining about not getting any playing time.

 

Nope, no fumbles this season.

 

Griese got credit for the fumble against Buffalo, but it was mostly on Benson, imo.

[wekse]

Benson also hasn't fumbled this year. So he's got that going for him.

 

I know we've gone over this before, but he should have been credited with a fumble in the Buffalo game, and there are a couple of other times he dropped the ball almost instantly after his knee touched down, most recently in OT last week.

Thomas Jones has one fumble in twice as many carries and over three times as many receptions. He's not exactly Rashan Salaam out there.

 

you should be banned for bringing him up, hah.

[BleedCubbieBlue81]

Thomas Jones has one fumble in twice as many carries and over three times as many receptions. He's not exactly Rashan Salaam out there.

 

you should be banned for bringing him up, hah.

Haha, I know. I was trying to think of a better alternative. But when I think "fumble", only one name comes to mind...

[Chocolate Milk]

Benson also hasn't fumbled this year. So he's got that going for him.

 

I know we've gone over this before, but he should have been credited with a fumble in the Buffalo game, and there are a couple of other times he dropped the ball almost instantly after his knee touched down, most recently in OT last week.

 

QB's are charged for fumbles on botched handoffs. Almost fumbling doesn't count.

[Andy]

Tank Johnson raised a suspicious eyebrow at the news Maynard was the sexiest guy in the locker room: "Wow. He's bringing sexy back."

...

Gould, who got 1 percent of the online vote and is "very single," had a message for female fans who think he's sexy: "Come say 'hi.' "

If I was a kicker/punter, I would absolutely try to stay in the limelight as much as possible to score dates. I am definitely that low.

[UMFan83]

Benson also hasn't fumbled this year. So he's got that going for him.

 

I know we've gone over this before, but he should have been credited with a fumble in the Buffalo game, and there are a couple of other times he dropped the ball almost instantly after his knee touched down, most recently in OT last week.

 

QB's are charged for fumbles on botched handoffs. Almost fumbling doesn't count.

 

I know but looking at the replays, I've personally concluded that Benson was the one that fumbled and it was incorrectly "credited" to Griese

[Soul]

Benson also hasn't fumbled this year. So he's got that going for him.

 

I know we've gone over this before, but he should have been credited with a fumble in the Buffalo game, and there are a couple of other times he dropped the ball almost instantly after his knee touched down, most recently in OT last week.

 

I'll give you the Buffalo game, but last Sunday it had nothing to do with Ced's knee or anything else like that. Benson came down arm-first, and the ground popped the ball loose.

 

It was a clear case of the ground causing the fumble, and wasn't close to a turnover despite the overreaction of the Seahawk players. And it wasn't even reviewed. Just watched it in slo-mo last night.

[CubsLadyinSTL]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, can someone please clear up the time on Sunday?? I have heard everything from 11 et to 3 ct. I need to know.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

If it were true that Benson is the better back, don't you think the coaches would've noticed by now and started him?

 

They tried that, but the veterans reportedly revolted. I think Jones' playing time might be more about team chemistry than best player.

 

 

 

I'd go with the guy that got you there, and continues to play well. Maybe not great, but well.

 

Jones isn't the guy who got you there. He's just the guy who has started at RB most of the games. He hasn't been anymore productive than Benson though. And you wouldn't miss anything if Ced took more of the touches.

 

I cant believe this crap!!! I love Benson, but this "Jones is average, and didnt get us there" is absolute garbage with almost no statistical backing. This is same Griese is better than Grossman mentality. Everyone thinks the guy that isnt playing is better.

 

Why cant we be excited for how Benson is progressing without bashing the only stable offensive production this team has had in the last three years?

 

PS- I have a man crush on Benson, so im not saying Benson isnt great. I'm saying Jones is outstanding as well, and with all the talk about Duce and Bush, I truly believe the bears have a better running attack than NO.

 

PSS- On everyone's logic, where is the call for Adrian Peterson to start? He has played very well when given the chance. See the lions game.

[Chocolate Milk]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, can someone please clear up the time on Sunday?? I have heard everything from 11 et to 3 ct. I need to know.

 

http://www.chicagobears.com

 

or you could always glance at the thread title.

[BleedCubbieBlue81]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, can someone please clear up the time on Sunday?? I have heard everything from 11 et to 3 ct. I need to know.

 

http://www.chicagobears.com

 

Or just check the title of this thread. :lol: Start of the game should be 2 p.m. central time.

[CubsLadyinSTL]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, can someone please clear up the time on Sunday?? I have heard everything from 11 et to 3 ct. I need to know.

 

http://www.chicagobears.com

 

or you could always glance at the thread title.

 

YOU KNOW WHAT...................

When you look at something so many times, you tend to not read what it says. That may sound really stupid, but it makes sense.

 

But thank you and good bye.

[BleedCubbieBlue81]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, can someone please clear up the time on Sunday?? I have heard everything from 11 et to 3 ct. I need to know.

 

http://www.chicagobears.com

 

or you could always glance at the thread title.

 

YOU KNOW WHAT...................

When you look at something so many times, you tend to not read what it says. That may sound really stupid, but it makes sense.

 

But thank you and good bye.

Haha, I know exactly what you mean. I was looking all over looking for the start time too. It took me a while to notice that it was in the title.

[goonys evil twin]

If it were true that Benson is the better back, don't you think the coaches would've noticed by now and started him?

 

They tried that, but the veterans reportedly revolted. I think Jones' playing time might be more about team chemistry than best player.

 

 

 

I'd go with the guy that got you there, and continues to play well. Maybe not great, but well.

 

Jones isn't the guy who got you there. He's just the guy who has started at RB most of the games. He hasn't been anymore productive than Benson though. And you wouldn't miss anything if Ced took more of the touches.

 

I cant believe this crap!!! I love Benson, but this "Jones is average, and didnt get us there" is absolute garbage with almost no statistical backing. This is same Griese is better than Grossman mentality. Everyone thinks the guy that isnt playing is better.

 

Why cant we be excited for how Benson is progressing without bashing the only stable offensive production this team has had in the last three years?

 

PS- I have a man crush on Benson, so im not saying Benson isnt great. I'm saying Jones is outstanding as well, and with all the talk about Duce and Bush, I truly believe the bears have a better running attack than NO.

 

PSS- On everyone's logic, where is the call for Adrian Peterson to start? He has played very well when given the chance. See the lions game.

 

Crap?

 

Jones is average. Nothing more. He's not a special back, nor is he even close. He's a 1200-1300 yard back. He's a 4.0 AVG kind of back. He's underachieved significantly in his career, given his draft status. He's not fast, he doesn't break long runs and he's nowhere close to dominant. He hesitates at the line and dances too much. But he's not terrible. I'm not bashing. You just aren't reading. That wasn't crap, it's called an opinion and it's shared by the vast majority of others. This has nothing to do with Griese/Grossman, and it was quite stupid to bring that up. Jones isn't anywhere close to outstanding. Nobody wants Peterson because because hasn't come close to showing he's a possible franchise back.

[goonys evil twin]

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE, can someone please clear up the time on Sunday?? I have heard everything from 11 et to 3 ct. I need to know.

 

http://www.chicagobears.com

 

or you could always glance at the thread title.

 

YOU KNOW WHAT...................

When you look at something so many times, you tend to not read what it says. That may sound really stupid, but it makes sense.

 

But thank you and good bye.

 

Where in the world did you hear 11 eastern?

[CubsLadyinSTL]

It was, and I have a witness, on the bottom line of ESPN 2 on Sunday night. I was intoxicated, but my witness was NOT. I am not blind, I swear.

[goonys evil twin]

It was, and I have a witness, on the bottom line of ESPN 2 on Sunday night. I was intoxicated, but my witness was NOT. I am not blind, I swear.

 

I'm guessing that was talking about Sunday NFL Countdown. ESPN had the 3 et start time listed almost immediately after the Bears game.

[BleedCubbieBlue81]

Crap?

 

Jones is average. Nothing more. He's not a special back, nor is he even close. He's a 1200-1300 yard back. He's a 4.0 AVG kind of back. He's underachieved significantly in his career, given his draft status. He's not fast, he doesn't break long runs and he's nowhere close to dominant. He hesitates at the line and dances too much. But he's not terrible. I'm not bashing. You just aren't reading. That wasn't crap, it's called an opinion and it's shared by the vast majority of others. This has nothing to do with Griese/Grossman, and it was quite stupid to bring that up. Jones isn't anywhere close to outstanding. Nobody wants Peterson because because hasn't come close to showing he's a possible franchise back.

You know, almost everything you just said can be said about Cedric Benson as well. Only differences is that Jones has run for 1200-1300 yards (granted Benson doesn't have the carries that Jones does), and Benson doesn't dance in the backfield because they have different running styles.

[Handlebar McSkullet]

If it were true that Benson is the better back, don't you think the coaches would've noticed by now and started him?

 

They tried that, but the veterans reportedly revolted. I think Jones' playing time might be more about team chemistry than best player.

 

 

 

I'd go with the guy that got you there, and continues to play well. Maybe not great, but well.

 

Jones isn't the guy who got you there. He's just the guy who has started at RB most of the games. He hasn't been anymore productive than Benson though. And you wouldn't miss anything if Ced took more of the touches.

 

I cant believe this crap!!! I love Benson, but this "Jones is average, and didnt get us there" is absolute garbage with almost no statistical backing. This is same Griese is better than Grossman mentality. Everyone thinks the guy that isnt playing is better.

 

Why cant we be excited for how Benson is progressing without bashing the only stable offensive production this team has had in the last three years?

 

PS- I have a man crush on Benson, so im not saying Benson isnt great. I'm saying Jones is outstanding as well, and with all the talk about Duce and Bush, I truly believe the bears have a better running attack than NO.

 

PSS- On everyone's logic, where is the call for Adrian Peterson to start? He has played very well when given the chance. See the lions game.

 

Crap?

 

Jones is average. Nothing more. He's not a special back, nor is he even close. He's a 1200-1300 yard back. He's a 4.0 AVG kind of back. He's underachieved significantly in his career, given his draft status. He's not fast, he doesn't break long runs and he's nowhere close to dominant. He hesitates at the line and dances too much. But he's not terrible. I'm not bashing. You just aren't reading. That wasn't crap, it's called an opinion and it's shared by the vast majority of others. This has nothing to do with Griese/Grossman, and it was quite stupid to bring that up. Jones isn't anywhere close to outstanding. Nobody wants Peterson because because hasn't come close to showing he's a possible franchise back.

 

When in the history of the NFL has 1200-1300 yard back been AVERAGE?

You are comparing Benson to Jones. 4.0 back? WHATS BENSON? 4.1 and 4.1... WOW!!! FRANCHISE BACK!!!

 

"underachieved SIGNIFICANTLY" he led his team in rushing the last three years out of his 7. In the entire spectrum of the NFL, there have been a multitude of top ten backs who havent even played three years!!!! on this franchise alone we have had one!

 

I'm not bashing. You just aren't reading.

 

"average" calling jones average is bashing. when he ranked 11th in the nfl in rushing yards this year. there are 32 teams. that is ABOVE AVERAGE.

 

That wasn't crap, it's called an opinion and it's shared by the vast majority of others.

 

did you poll every person who watches football in the united states? does this include the people i sat with at the game last week that called for orton to start.

 

no where close to dominant

fine. but is benson, and who is dominant? tomlinson, johnson, gore, barber...??? thats four backs... so if jones isnt producing like they are its "average"?

 

This has nothing to do with Griese/Grossman, and it was quite stupid to bring that up.

 

i was pointing out the mentality of the fan base to covet the guy who isnt playing. "You just aren't reading."

[B]

I have not read any of this thread, but I just wanted it to be known that I am not rooting for anyone. I am rooting against the Saints though.

 

Coach Ditka?

Did you see Ditka's prediction of the game? Hilarious. Apparently the game will go into an overtime that will last for 6 weeks. The superbowl will be canceled and the Bears and Saints will both be declared champions.

 

I didn't see it. I just said that b/c I'm not a Bears fan, but I can't stand the Saints. I get tired of all the ppl. that live around here that are jumping on their bandwagon now.

[goonys evil twin]

Crap?

 

Jones is average. Nothing more. He's not a special back, nor is he even close. He's a 1200-1300 yard back. He's a 4.0 AVG kind of back. He's underachieved significantly in his career, given his draft status. He's not fast, he doesn't break long runs and he's nowhere close to dominant. He hesitates at the line and dances too much. But he's not terrible. I'm not bashing. You just aren't reading. That wasn't crap, it's called an opinion and it's shared by the vast majority of others. This has nothing to do with Griese/Grossman, and it was quite stupid to bring that up. Jones isn't anywhere close to outstanding. Nobody wants Peterson because because hasn't come close to showing he's a possible franchise back.

You know, almost everything you just said can be said about Cedric Benson as well. Only differences is that Jones has run for 1200-1300 yards (granted Benson doesn't have the carries that Jones does), and Benson doesn't dance in the backfield because they have different running styles.

 

Actually none of that cant be said about Benson.

[goonys evil twin]

When in the history of the NFL has 1200-1300 yard back been AVERAGE?

You are comparing Benson to Jones. 4.0 back? WHATS BENSON? 4.1 and 4.1... WOW!!! FRANCHISE BACK!!!

 

"underachieved SIGNIFICANTLY" he led his team in rushing the last three years out of his 7. In the entire spectrum of the NFL, there have been a multitude of top ten backs who havent even played three years!!!! on this franchise alone we have had one!

 

I'm not bashing. You just aren't reading.

 

"average" calling jones average is bashing. when he ranked 11th in the nfl in rushing yards this year. there are 32 teams. that is ABOVE AVERAGE.

 

That wasn't crap, it's called an opinion and it's shared by the vast majority of others.

 

did you poll every person who watches football in the united states? does this include the people i sat with at the game last week that called for orton to start.

 

no where close to dominant

fine. but is benson, and who is dominant? tomlinson, johnson, gore, barber...??? thats four backs... so if jones isnt producing like they are its "average"?

 

This has nothing to do with Griese/Grossman, and it was quite stupid to bring that up.

 

i was pointing out the mentality of the fan base to covet the guy who isnt playing. "You just aren't reading."

 

This post made no sense, just like the claim that Jones is the guy that got us here. He's just a decent back, maybe a little above average, but nowhere near a franchise back. There's a reason the Bears got him on the cheap.

[BleedCubbieBlue81]

This post made no sense, just like the claim that Jones is the guy that got us here. He's just a decent back, maybe a little above average, but nowhere near a franchise back. There's a reason the Bears got him on the cheap.

And there's also a reason he's starting and Benson is not.

[goonys evil twin]

This post made no sense, just like the claim that Jones is the guy that got us here. He's just a decent back, maybe a little above average, but nowhere near a franchise back. There's a reason the Bears got him on the cheap.

And there's also a reason he's starting and Benson is not.

 

Because he's the "trusted veteran" and the other veterans were mad that Benson got his job.

 

 

I'm not going to argue over this right now. Somebody asked for people to give reason for saying Benson should get more carries, and I did that. If somebody else wants to get all worked up over that statement, so be it. I did not want another RB taken in 2006, but he was. And from what I've seen, I think he's clearly better. Some people don't see it that way. Fine. Combined they are pretty productive, although Turner still struggles with sticking with a running game when it's clicking. Hopefully they dominate this game on Sunday.

[OleMissCub]

I didn't see it. I just said that b/c I'm not a Bears fan, but I can't stand the Saints. I get tired of all the ppl. that live around here that are jumping on their bandwagon now.

 

I've said it before, the Saints are more of a Mississippi team than a Louisiana team. Damn near everyone I know from Louisiana are Cowboys fans it seems.