Its Bowl Season...

[Andy]

A lot of people hate the spoiled rich kid who doesn't deserve all the perks of being a spoiled rich kid. ND is the spoiled rich kid of college football.

Fair enough. Best I've seen it summarized yet actually.

[CuseCubFan69]

A lot of people hate the spoiled rich kid who doesn't deserve all the perks of being a spoiled rich kid. ND is the spoiled rich kid of college football.

 

That's funny Vance because that's how I view the SEC and Big 10.

 

Plus, Thanks to Delaney (Big 10 Commish) we will NEVER have a playoff because he's too happy with the Rose Bowl the way it's set up now.

[BigSlick]

A lot of people hate the spoiled rich kid who doesn't deserve all the perks of being a spoiled rich kid. ND is the spoiled rich kid of college football.

 

That's funny Vance because that's how I view the SEC and Big 10.

 

Plus, Thanks to Delaney (Big 10 Commish) we will NEVER have a playoff because he's too happy with the Rose Bowl the way it's set up now.

 

You think the lack of a playoff makes me happy? No, it doesn't.

 

And how do you go and call 23 teams out of 119 spoiled rich kids? Absurd.

 

That and they seem to lick up half the national titles. I mean, at least they have something back up.

[Derwood]

A lot of people hate the spoiled rich kid who doesn't deserve all the perks of being a spoiled rich kid. ND is the spoiled rich kid of college football.

 

That's funny Vance because that's how I view the SEC and Big 10.

 

Plus, Thanks to Delaney (Big 10 Commish) we will NEVER have a playoff because he's too happy with the Rose Bowl the way it's set up now.

 

You think the lack of a playoff makes me happy? No, it doesn't.

 

And how do you go and call 23 teams out of 119 spoiled rich kids? Absurd.

 

That and they seem to lick up half the national titles. I mean, at least they have something back up.

 

congrats on 1000 posts

 

The era of independent college teams is past us. 20 years ago Penn State, Miami, ND, Temple, Navy, Army, Cincy, etc. were all independents. Only a couple left these days. Get with the program ND!

[CDBears1259]

A lot of people hate the spoiled rich kid who doesn't deserve all the perks of being a spoiled rich kid. ND is the spoiled rich kid of college football.

 

That's funny Vance because that's how I view the SEC and Big 10.

 

Plus, Thanks to Delaney (Big 10 Commish) we will NEVER have a playoff because he's too happy with the Rose Bowl the way it's set up now.

 

You think the lack of a playoff makes me happy? No, it doesn't.

 

And how do you go and call 23 teams out of 119 spoiled rich kids? Absurd.

 

That and they seem to lick up half the national titles. I mean, at least they have something back up.

 

congrats on 1000 posts

 

The era of independent college teams is past us. 20 years ago Penn State, Miami, ND, Temple, Navy, Army, Cincy, etc. were all independents. Only a couple left these days. Get with the program ND!

 

Although, I'm a diehard LSU fan and don't hate ND, that is one of the things that makes me like the Irish even more.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

A lot of people hate the spoiled rich kid who doesn't deserve all the perks of being a spoiled rich kid. ND is the spoiled rich kid of college football.

 

That's funny Vance because that's how I view the SEC and Big 10.

 

Plus, Thanks to Delaney (Big 10 Commish) we will NEVER have a playoff because he's too happy with the Rose Bowl the way it's set up now.

 

But to a man, most of the big name coaches in the SEC are firmly in favor of a playoff. I know Miles, Myer, and Tubberville are for certain.

[CuseCubFan69]

A lot of people hate the spoiled rich kid who doesn't deserve all the perks of being a spoiled rich kid. ND is the spoiled rich kid of college football.

 

That's funny Vance because that's how I view the SEC and Big 10.

 

Plus, Thanks to Delaney (Big 10 Commish) we will NEVER have a playoff because he's too happy with the Rose Bowl the way it's set up now.

 

But to a man, most of the big name coaches in the SEC are firmly in favor of a playoff. I know Miles, Myer, and Tubberville are for certain.

 

But Vance we know who runs the SEC and it isn't the coaches.

[soccer10k]

A lot of people hate the spoiled rich kid who doesn't deserve all the perks of being a spoiled rich kid. ND is the spoiled rich kid of college football.

 

That's funny Vance because that's how I view the SEC and Big 10.

 

Plus, Thanks to Delaney (Big 10 Commish) we will NEVER have a playoff because he's too happy with the Rose Bowl the way it's set up now.

 

But to a man, most of the big name coaches in the SEC are firmly in favor of a playoff. I know Miles, Myer, and Tubberville are for certain.

 

But Vance we know who runs the SEC and it isn't the coaches.

 

To be fair, have any of the major conference commissioners come out and said they would favor a playoff system? I don't think it's just the SEC and Big 10.

[TruffleShuffle]

A lot of people hate the spoiled rich kid who doesn't deserve all the perks of being a spoiled rich kid. ND is the spoiled rich kid of college football.

 

That's funny Vance because that's how I view the SEC and Big 10.

 

Plus, Thanks to Delaney (Big 10 Commish) we will NEVER have a playoff because he's too happy with the Rose Bowl the way it's set up now.

 

But to a man, most of the big name coaches in the SEC are firmly in favor of a playoff. I know Miles, Myer, and Tubberville are for certain.

 

But Vance we know who runs the SEC and it isn't the coaches.

 

boosters?

[CuseCubFan69]

A lot of people hate the spoiled rich kid who doesn't deserve all the perks of being a spoiled rich kid. ND is the spoiled rich kid of college football.

 

That's funny Vance because that's how I view the SEC and Big 10.

 

Plus, Thanks to Delaney (Big 10 Commish) we will NEVER have a playoff because he's too happy with the Rose Bowl the way it's set up now.

 

You think the lack of a playoff makes me happy? No, it doesn't.

 

And how do you go and call 23 teams out of 119 spoiled rich kids? Absurd.

 

That and they seem to lick up half the national titles. I mean, at least they have something back up.

 

I think you didn't read the posts correctly. Did either post call the kids spoiled? No. What was written was that the SEC and Big 10 have things just the way they want them and they do not want to share. ND is by far not the only one that is "spoiled", believe me.

 

And they lick up National titles by the good ole boy vote. You will always have an SEC, Big 12, USC, ND or a Big 10 team win over any other team if they have the same record. Always.

[TruffleShuffle]

And they lick up National titles by the good ole boy vote. You will always have an SEC, Big 12, USC, ND or a Big 10 team win over any other team if they have the same record. Always.

 

I've still yet to see you post any concrete evidence that the Big East got screwed in the bowls they were awarded this year.

[CuseCubFan69]

And they lick up National titles by the good ole boy vote. You will always have an SEC, Big 12, USC, ND or a Big 10 team win over any other team if they have the same record. Always.

 

I've still yet to see you post any concrete evidence that the Big East got screwed in the bowls they were awarded this year.

 

Tell me...what is concrete about college football? Did Louisville and Florida have the same record? Once Louisville lost 1 game they were booted out of the BSC Big game. Same for Rutgers and WV. Auburn and LSU have to lose twice. Why?

[TruffleShuffle]

And they lick up National titles by the good ole boy vote. You will always have an SEC, Big 12, USC, ND or a Big 10 team win over any other team if they have the same record. Always.

 

I've still yet to see you post any concrete evidence that the Big East got screwed in the bowls they were awarded this year.

 

Tell me...what is concrete about college football? Did Louisville and Florida have the same record? Once Louisville lost 1 game they were booted out of the BSC Big game. Same for Rutgers and WV. Auburn and LSU have to lose twice. Why?

 

Well, because Florida and LSU clearly played more difficult schedules, which is apparent to anyone who isn't blinded by conference homerism.

[CuseCubFan69]

And they lick up National titles by the good ole boy vote. You will always have an SEC, Big 12, USC, ND or a Big 10 team win over any other team if they have the same record. Always.

 

I've still yet to see you post any concrete evidence that the Big East got screwed in the bowls they were awarded this year.

 

Tell me...what is concrete about college football? Did Louisville and Florida have the same record? Once Louisville lost 1 game they were booted out of the BSC Big game. Same for Rutgers and WV. Auburn and LSU have to lose twice. Why?

 

Well, because Florida and LSU clearly played more difficult schedules, which is apparent to anyone who isn't blinded by conference homerism.

 

5-0 my man....5-0 and it's NEVER been done before. We proved it on the field yet again but next year the Auburns will play those tough Buffalo's and go 4-0 into SEC play and once again the SEC will be so strong. If the Big East does that they are weak because the conference is so weak. It isn't weak and 5-0 proves that. Florida did not play a tougher schedule but the illusion of what the SEC does makes it look that way.

[TruffleShuffle]

5-0 my man....5-0 and it's NEVER been done before.

 

Yeah, remind me how many times one conference has been favored in all its bowl games, and been favored by at least a touchdown in four of them? The Big East went 5-0 in large part because they had easy matchups.

 

 

We proved it on the field yet again but next year the Auburns will play those tough Buffalo's and go 4-0 into SEC play

 

Maybe they played Buffalo because Howard, Eastern Washington and Temple already had commitments to play Big East teams.

[CuseCubFan69]

5-0 my man....5-0 and it's NEVER been done before.

 

Yeah, remind me how many times one conference has been favored in all its bowl games, and been favored by at least a touchdown in four of them? The Big East went 5-0 in large part because they had easy matchups.

 

 

We proved it on the field yet again but next year the Auburns will play those tough Buffalo's and go 4-0 into SEC play

 

Maybe they played Buffalo because Howard, Eastern Washington and Temple already had commitments to play Big East teams.

 

5-0. Yeah, we all know the favorites always win too. You seem to like perception but I like facts....5-0.

 

Let's go to these easy matchups. Why do you think this? Is it because the Big East is frozen out of the big boy pool?

[soccer10k]

5-0 my man....5-0 and it's NEVER been done before.

 

Yeah, remind me how many times one conference has been favored in all its bowl games, and been favored by at least a touchdown in four of them? The Big East went 5-0 in large part because they had easy matchups.

 

 

We proved it on the field yet again but next year the Auburns will play those tough Buffalo's and go 4-0 into SEC play

 

Maybe they played Buffalo because Howard, Eastern Washington and Temple already had commitments to play Big East teams.

 

All teams do this. It's not exactly a new practice. I could go through all the major conferences and find a bunch of low DI-A and DI-AA schools that they schedule year in and year out.

 

As for the first point, yeah, the Big East was favored. But they still went out and won the games. They could have packed it in, been ticked off they played crummy schools, and overlooked their bowl matchups. But they didn't. They went out and won the games that were given to them and that's all they could do. There was no sense complaining because it wasn't going to change anything.

[TruffleShuffle]

5-0. Yeah, we all know the favorites always win too. You seem to like perception but I like facts....5-0.

 

OK, well the fact is that they beat the top two teams from the worst major conference in CFB, the 7th best Big XII team, the 4th or 5th best Conference USA team, and the 3rd best MAC team. Pardon me for not crapping my pants in amazement at that brutal

 

Let's go to these easy matchups. Why do you think this? Is it because the Big East is frozen out of the big boy pool?

 

Rutgers got screwed, no doubt. But games against the #1 and #2 ACC schools are usually going to yield really good matchups. And in previous years, the Big East has hardly been dominating its bowl games, so I can't say it's completely unfair that the current Big East teams have to prove themselves before getting matchups against similarly-seeded schools from the Big Ten or SEC. I mean, would Rutgers or USF really have belonged on the same field as Wisconsin, Auburn or Florida last year? No, they couldn't even beat mediocre Arizona State and NC State.

[TruffleShuffle]

All teams do this. It's not exactly a new practice. I could go through all the major conferences and find a bunch of low DI-A and DI-AA schools that they schedule year in and year out.

 

That's my point. I'm sure if Rutgers, USF and WVU were SEC schools, Cuse would be hammering them for playing garbage OOC schedules. But I guess because they're in the Big East it's somehow okay for them not to play anyone.

[Jon]

Any truth to the rumors that there's a national championship game still to be played?

 

I assumed they already finished.

[DCNashville]

Truffle, 99% of us agree with you. I would stop arguing it because some of these guys will never be able to see the obvious.

[CubinNY]

A lot of people hate the spoiled rich kid who doesn't deserve all the perks of being a spoiled rich kid. ND is the spoiled rich kid of college football.

 

That's funny Vance because that's how I view the SEC and Big 10.

 

Plus, Thanks to Delaney (Big 10 Commish) we will NEVER have a playoff because he's too happy with the Rose Bowl the way it's set up now.

 

But to a man, most of the big name coaches in the SEC are firmly in favor of a playoff. I know Miles, Myer, and Tubberville are for certain.

 

Unfortunatly neither their Presidents or ADs are in favor.

[CuseCubFan69]

5-0. Yeah, we all know the favorites always win too. You seem to like perception but I like facts....5-0.

 

OK, well the fact is that they beat the top two teams from the worst major conference in CFB, the 7th best Big XII team, the 4th or 5th best Conference USA team, and the 3rd best MAC team. Pardon me for not crapping my pants in amazement at that brutal

 

Let's go to these easy matchups. Why do you think this? Is it because the Big East is frozen out of the big boy pool?

 

Rutgers got screwed, no doubt. But games against the #1 and #2 ACC schools are usually going to yield really good matchups. And in previous years, the Big East has hardly been dominating its bowl games, so I can't say it's completely unfair that the current Big East teams have to prove themselves before getting matchups against similarly-seeded schools from the Big Ten or SEC. I mean, would Rutgers or USF really have belonged on the same field as Wisconsin, Auburn or Florida last year? No, they couldn't even beat mediocre Arizona State and NC State.

 

Truffle the point is, no matter what the Big East does, they will not get the same opportunity as the "football" conferences. The past is the past and you have to look at the 2006 season. The BE has 3 undefeated teams late in the year. If this happened in one of the "elite" conferences ESPN would never let us hear the end of it....ever. My lord, the Ohio St vs Michigan was the second coming for christs sake. I heard broadcasters say this was the best game ever. Best game ever! "Game for the ages" They must have watched a different game than I did because OSU had that game in the bag and Michigan goes within 4 at the end. It was a good game but that's all.

 

Also, for 4 or 5 years in a row the Big East had one of if not thee best bowl records in college football before Miami and company left leaving a hole. I too was worried and I don't deny that. But, this hole has been covered earlier than many expected and I saw how young these teams were last year and commented that they were going to be strong, how strong I didn't know but good. Last year is last year and if you go by last year why did WV not go to the BCS since they beat the SEC champ last year? I admit they were flaky on D but their offense is incredible. 2 loss LSU goes to the BCS while WV goes to the Liberty. I do not deny that the SEC and Big 10 are strong conferences but my reference of the perception of the Big 10 and SEC being spoiled is true. They hold almost all the cards as does the Big 12.

 

Lets go back to January 1987. Penn State is playing Miami. Who had Penn State winning? You assume that Miami is going to win but you play the game on the field and what happens, Penn State wins. This happens all the time. But, the Big East team that has the same record as any....and I mean any....SEC, Big 10 or Big 12 team and they will be going to the lesser bowl.

 

Let me add that to go 5-0 shows depth. The Mel Kippers of the world always say how much depth the SEC has. They went 5-3. If they are that good they shouldn't have lost 3 games but they somehow managed to do so. Don't you find it strange that the SEC and Big 10 play each other 3 times? Why is that? Gotta keep it in the family.

[CuseCubFan69]

All teams do this. It's not exactly a new practice. I could go through all the major conferences and find a bunch of low DI-A and DI-AA schools that they schedule year in and year out.

 

That's my point. I'm sure if Rutgers, USF and WVU were SEC schools, Cuse would be hammering them for playing garbage OOC schedules. But I guess because they're in the Big East it's somehow okay for them not to play anyone.

 

Then what makes the SEC teams better than? The 5-3 record in the Bowl games? I concede that the Big East teams play some easy teams but they also play major BCS conference teams too. Name one team that Auburn played that went to a bowl out of conference 0, Florida 1....LSU 0? Louisville played 3. WV played 2. Rutgers 1. Where did the SEC prove it was better?

[TruffleShuffle]

All teams do this. It's not exactly a new practice. I could go through all the major conferences and find a bunch of low DI-A and DI-AA schools that they schedule year in and year out.

 

That's my point. I'm sure if Rutgers, USF and WVU were SEC schools, Cuse would be hammering them for playing garbage OOC schedules. But I guess because they're in the Big East it's somehow okay for them not to play anyone.

 

Then what makes the SEC teams better than? The 5-3 record in the Bowl games? I concede that the Big East teams play some easy teams but they also play major BCS conference teams too. Name one team that Auburn played that went to a bowl out of conference 0, Florida 1....LSU 0? Louisville played 3. WV played 2. Rutgers 1. Where did the SEC prove it was better?

 

I'm not impressed by those wins.... East Carolina, Navy, Kansas State, Middle Tennessee State? Big deal. Those are unranked teams, maybe rating around #50-60 in the nation. If you're a true top 15 team, you shouldn't have any difficulty beating mediocre squads like that. Most SEC teams play at least 6 bowl teams in conference, which sure as hell isn't the case for Big East teams.