Manny Ramirez?

[A New Era]

Oh I agree that offense would be disgusting. But we'd be covering our eyes every half-inning. In actuality it would be really interesting to watch.

 

Yeah, but your eyes would be DAMN WIDE OPEN, the other half inning!!

[LeftCoastCubFan]

Guys, Boston has more than once tried to give Manny away for free. If you want to pay a cheap price in talent, tell Boston that you'll pick up the whole salary and I doubt you'll pay much.

But that was 3 years ago (October 2003). At that point you would be assuming a 5/108.5 mil contract at a time when baseball economics were pretty bad for most teams. Now he is due 2/38, and from what I've read it's really 2/34 when you factor in all of the deferred money. That's a bargain contract for a 1.000 plus OPS player in todays market.

 

The Red Sox would love to get rid of the headache, but only if it makes them better, so he won't come cheaply from a talent prospective.

[Balsa]

While talks have remained quiet, the Red Sox have pushed Texas owner Tom Hicks to once again consider trading for Manny Ramírez. ... This time, according to multiple sources, the Sox would like to pry All-Star shortstop Michael Young away, but there has been little evidence that the Rangers would part with Young.

 

The Red Sox catch a break, for a change. They get lucky with Manny Ramirez. He wants to play somewhere else next season, and apparently he’s not all that picky about where. He has given the Red Sox a list of teams to which he would accept a trade, and according to TV analyst Jerry Remy that list is at least 10 teams long. So it is time to end this annual charade, and let the bidding begin.

[JWCUB]

There is way too much Manny talk for the Cubs to not even sniff it.

[questionmarkgrace]

He'd fit best in the A.L. but the Bo Sox probably want him in the N.L.

If we get him we'd better have one hell of a Centerfielder to keep Manny and Soriano in check.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

He'd fit best in the A.L. but the Bo Sox probably want him in the N.L.

If we get him we'd better have one hell of a Centerfielder to keep Manny and Soriano in check.

 

If we get Manny, we could afford to have Pie play CF.

[questionmarkgrace]

good catch vance, I was hinting at that. With manny's contract and soriano's it would make sense to play a major league minimum guy.

 

I was thinking Jones, Wuertz and another. For Manny and maybe a prospect. and we take on all of his contract.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

If the Cubs get Manny, they might as well trade Murton. I like Murton, but Manny will block him for the next two years. While Murton could be used off the bench, he'd have more value in a trade than as a bench player.

 

On the other hand, can Manny still play RF? How about Murton in left, Soriano in CF, and Manny in right. =P~

[JWCUB]

If the Cubs get Manny, they might as well trade Murton. I like Murton, but Manny will block him for the next two years. While Murton could be used off the bench, he'd have more value in a trade than as a bench player.

 

On the other hand, can Manny still play RF? How about Murton in left, Soriano in CF, and Manny in right. =P~

 

 

 

DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER

[baseball7897]

Many Ramirez in RF? He has trouble playing LF in Boston with that big green monster behind him. Ramirez benefits with having that green monster behind because he doesn't have to run that far to catch a fly ball. Putting Ramirez in Wrigley with those different wind currents would kill his defense.

 

That being said, I would love to see his bat in the Cubs lineup.

[Roast]

Many Ramirez in RF? He has trouble playing LF in Boston with that big green monster behind him. Ramirez benefits with having that green monster behind because he doesn't have to run that far to catch a fly ball. Putting Ramirez in Wrigley with those different wind currents would kill his defense.

 

That being said, I would love to see his bat in the Cubs lineup.

 

He'd drive in more runs than he would give up due to poor defense. That makes his defense a moot point, imo.

[baseball7897]

Many Ramirez in RF? He has trouble playing LF in Boston with that big green monster behind him. Ramirez benefits with having that green monster behind because he doesn't have to run that far to catch a fly ball. Putting Ramirez in Wrigley with those different wind currents would kill his defense.

 

That being said, I would love to see his bat in the Cubs lineup.

 

He'd drive in more runs than he would give up due to poor defense. That makes his defense a moot point, imo.

 

I dont see how his defense wouldn't hurt the Cubs. They already have very weak SP as it is right now. If they go into next season with a staff that they have now, they cannot afford to give up uneared runs to the opponents day in day out.

 

If you're going to put Manny in a Cubs unifrom, he will be playing LF not RF. I don't see how Murton will have a tuff time making the move to RF.

[Abe Frohman]

Murton doesn't have the arm for RF.

[CP_414]

Many Ramirez in RF? He has trouble playing LF in Boston with that big green monster behind him. Ramirez benefits with having that green monster behind because he doesn't have to run that far to catch a fly ball. Putting Ramirez in Wrigley with those different wind currents would kill his defense.

 

That being said, I would love to see his bat in the Cubs lineup.

 

He'd drive in more runs than he would give up due to poor defense. That makes his defense a moot point, imo.

 

I dont see how his defense wouldn't hurt the Cubs. They already have very weak SP as it is right now. If they go into next season with a staff that they have now, they cannot afford to give up uneared runs to the opponents day in day out.

 

If you're going to put Manny in a Cubs unifrom, he will be playing LF not RF. I don't see how Murton will have a tuff time making the move to RF.

 

Why is Rf so much harder than LF? Aren't there less balls hit to right than left? Manny still has a cannon, so his arm is fine for right.

 

If they get Manny, they could play him at 2B and I would be ok with it (maybe).

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Manny played a decent RF for the Indians and actually wanted to stay there when he signed his deal with Boston. I think he'd be below average there but not nearly as bad as some think.

 

His bat would more than make up for his gaffes.

[JWCUB]

The question is, what would it take to get Manny. I have heard anything from prospects to BP help, to a SP. Maybe a combo of all 3. Who knows.

[Roast]

 

I dont see how his defense wouldn't hurt the Cubs.

 

I don't sew why he would be any worse than Jones was in right. Jones may be able to get to the ball quicker, but he cant throw it into the infield to save his life. Manny may not get to the ball as fast but he has a cannon. So its a trade off, in my opinion.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I really don't think Manny's defense in RF would be any worse than Sosa's was in final two seasons.

[baseball7897]

 

I dont see how his defense wouldn't hurt the Cubs.

 

I don't sew why he would be any worse than Jones was in right. Jones may be able to get to the ball quicker, but he cant throw it into the infield to save his life. Manny may not get to the ball as fast but he has a cannon. So its a trade off, in my opinion.

 

Manny has a horrible throwing arm.

[mul21]

 

I dont see how his defense wouldn't hurt the Cubs.

 

I don't sew why he would be any worse than Jones was in right. Jones may be able to get to the ball quicker, but he cant throw it into the infield to save his life. Manny may not get to the ball as fast but he has a cannon. So its a trade off, in my opinion.

 

Manny has a horrible throwing arm.

 

It can't be as bad as Jacque's based on the number of assists he's had in recent years, especially compared to our OF last year.

[baseball7897]

 

I dont see how his defense wouldn't hurt the Cubs.

 

I don't sew why he would be any worse than Jones was in right. Jones may be able to get to the ball quicker, but he cant throw it into the infield to save his life. Manny may not get to the ball as fast but he has a cannon. So its a trade off, in my opinion.

 

Manny has a horrible throwing arm.

 

It can't be as bad as Jacque's based on the number of assists he's had in recent years, especially compared to our OF last year.

 

He has all of those assists because he is playing 10 feet away from the infield.

[questionmarkgrace]

Why is Rf so much harder than LF? Aren't there less balls hit to right than left? Manny still has a cannon, so his arm is fine for right.

 

 

I think you're correct that right field is tougher because of the throws you have to make to third base. Plus I think that when righty's hit opposite field the ball slices so that can be difficult to judge. Plus right field is even tougher at wrigley. I'm not too sure that manny could handle the winds along with all of the ground to cover.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

 

I dont see how his defense wouldn't hurt the Cubs.

 

I don't sew why he would be any worse than Jones was in right. Jones may be able to get to the ball quicker, but he cant throw it into the infield to save his life. Manny may not get to the ball as fast but he has a cannon. So its a trade off, in my opinion.

 

Manny has a horrible throwing arm.

 

I disagree.

[baseball7897]

 

I dont see how his defense wouldn't hurt the Cubs.

 

I don't sew why he would be any worse than Jones was in right. Jones may be able to get to the ball quicker, but he cant throw it into the infield to save his life. Manny may not get to the ball as fast but he has a cannon. So its a trade off, in my opinion.

 

Manny has a horrible throwing arm.

 

I disagree.

 

Everyone who plays LF in Boston looks like they have a strong arm. Ramirez is awful when he throws the ball. Not only does he have a poor throwing arm, but he is not even accurate with his throws.

[questionmarkgrace]

yeah manny does still have a good arm. I saw him hose somebody from deep left at the cell last year. No bounce either. Straight into Varitek's glove.