Rogers: Cubs, Red Sox showing most interest in Drew

[Guest]

really? I thought they were both worse than that in 2005. I guess the bar for 2b is really low? Are those done by position?

[CubsWin]

blanco is no better than soto.

Are you talking offensively, defensively or both?

 

value to the team.

If you are referring to their salaries in relation to what they can provide to the team, then you must know what the Cubs payroll limits are.

 

Without knowing how much Hendry can spend, it is impossible to say with any level of certainty whether Blanco's 2.5 mill is going to impact his ability to sign anyone else.

 

If you look at performance alone and you factor in that the Cubs are trying to win now, resigning Blanco over playing Soto is a no-brainer. Soto's bat is untested at the major league level. His glove and arm and game-calling ability can't be any better than Blanco's, so how would he be an improvement? He wouldn't. He's only cheaper. I like Soto, I think he's got a chance at being a really good back-up catcher in the majors, but I don't want to find out in the next two seasons while the Cubs are trying to win it all. I want to be able to count on a proven commodity for the bench player who under normal circumstances will start more games than any other bench player, my back-up catcher.

 

If Barrett goes down to another injury, do you want a rookie in your line-up during a pennant chase? If the Cubs are out of it, who cares, right? But at least Hendry is planning on being in it. And until someone can show that spending 2.5 mill on Blanco is affecting Hendry's ability to sign a big name FA, then the least we can do is be glad the Cubs have one of the best back-up catchers in the business in the fold.

[Guest]

I said he's no better. and we're talking about the backup freaking catcher here. if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, blanco ain't gonna save the cubs.

[nilodnayr]

really? I thought they were both worse than that in 2005. I guess the bar for 2b is really low? Are those done by position?

 

Nope, just park adjusted and league adjusted I believe. Here are their lines

 

 

 

Aurilia 06 - 300/349/518

 

DeRosa 06 - 296/357/456

 

Aurilia 05 - 282/338/444

 

DeRosa 05 - 243/325/439

 

In 05 Park Adjusted leage OPS was a whopping 22 points lower in the AL and 25 points lower in the NL than in 06.

[nilodnayr]

blanco is no better than soto.

Are you talking offensively, defensively or both?

 

value to the team.

If you are referring to their salaries in relation to what they can provide to the team, then you must know what the Cubs payroll limits are.

 

Without knowing how much Hendry can spend, it is impossible to say with any level of certainty whether Blanco's 2.5 mill is going to impact his ability to sign anyone else.

 

If you look at performance alone and you factor in that the Cubs are trying to win now, resigning Blanco over playing Soto is a no-brainer. Soto's bat is untested at the major league level. His glove and arm and game-calling ability can't be any better than Blanco's, so how would he be an improvement? He wouldn't. He's only cheaper. I like Soto, I think he's got a chance at being a really good back-up catcher in the majors, but I don't want to find out in the next two seasons while the Cubs are trying to win it all. I want to be able to count on a proven commodity for the bench player who under normal circumstances will start more games than any other bench player, my back-up catcher.

 

If Barrett goes down to another injury, do you want a rookie in your line-up during a pennant chase? If the Cubs are out of it, who cares, right? But at least Hendry is planning on being in it. And until someone can show that spending 2.5 mill on Blanco is affecting Hendry's ability to sign a big name FA, then the least we can do is be glad the Cubs have one of the best back-up catchers in the business in the fold.

 

If signing Blanco does inhibit us from spending the extra couple M per year to get a Drew or Sori then it wont matter if Barrett gets hurt or not, we will not have a chance to win. If signing Blanco doesnt inhibit us from spending the extra couple M per year and we do acquire a Drew/Sori and Barrett gets hurt then the difference between Soto and Blanco will be nominal enough that with the lineup we would have built it wouldnt matter.

[CubsWin]

I said he's no better. and we're talking about the backup freaking catcher here. if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, blanco ain't gonna save the cubs.

So a good bench isn't important? Besides a super-sub, the back-up catcher will start more games than any other bench player without injury coming into to play.

 

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

 

I call BS.

 

Blanco is a .657 career OPSer. He's not a high standard to live up to.

[sethuel1]

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

 

Nope.

[CubsWin]

If signing Blanco does inhibit us from spending the extra couple M per year to get a Drew or Sori then it wont matter if Barrett gets hurt or not, we will not have a chance to win. If signing Blanco doesnt inhibit us from spending the extra couple M per year and we do acquire a Drew/Sori and Barrett gets hurt then the difference between Soto and Blanco will be nominal enough that with the lineup we would have built it wouldnt matter.

I agree completely if his signing does affect the Cubs ability to sign the big FA, but as of now, we have no evidence that it does.

 

In fact, we have circumstantial evidence that shows that it doesn't. The Cubs are in hot pursuit of Soriano and his demands are the biggest of any FA out there. So given that there is enough money left to sign who the Cubs need to sign, how can you say what you said in the bolded part above without Soto's bat having been tested at the major league level. What about his ability to throw out base runners or call a game? What about his ability to perform at his highest level possible as a rookie?

 

Keeping in mind the importance defense plays at the catcher's position, is Blanco one of, if not the best back-up catcher in the league or not? Come on, guys, what more do you want?

[CubsWin]

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

 

I call BS.

 

Blanco is a .657 career OPSer. He's not a high standard to live up to.

And when evaluating a back-up catcher, OPS is the most important stat how? If that is what you are using to judge what Blanco brings to the table then you are missing the big picture.

[CubsWin]

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

 

Nope.

You're persuasive, you...

[CaliforniaRaisin]

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

 

Nope.

You're persuasive, you...

 

Haha, you are too.

[sethuel1]

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

 

I call BS.

 

Blanco is a .657 career OPSer. He's not a high standard to live up to.

And when evaluating a back-up catcher, OPS is the most important stat how? If that is what you are using to judge what Blanco brings to the table then you are missing the big picture.

 

Please tell me what Blanco brings to the table.

 

Also use short sentences. I;m a bit drunk.

[CubmanPi]

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

 

I call BS.

 

Blanco is a .657 career OPSer. He's not a high standard to live up to.

And when evaluating a back-up catcher, OPS is the most important stat how? If that is what you are using to judge what Blanco brings to the table then you are missing the big picture.

I hope Hendry signs Drew.

[CubsWin]

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

 

Nope.

You're persuasive, you...

 

Haha, you are too.

Thanks, yes I am. Blanco's defensive and game calling abilities are well documented as is the importance of both at the catcher position. I think that is rather persuasive, don't you?

[CubsWin]

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

 

I call BS.

 

Blanco is a .657 career OPSer. He's not a high standard to live up to.

And when evaluating a back-up catcher, OPS is the most important stat how? If that is what you are using to judge what Blanco brings to the table then you are missing the big picture.

I hope Hendry signs Drew.

That makes two of us. Thanks for getting the thread back on track. :oops:

[Guest]

I said he's no better. and we're talking about the backup freaking catcher here. if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, blanco ain't gonna save the cubs.

So a good bench isn't important? Besides a super-sub, the back-up catcher will start more games than any other bench player without injury coming into to play.

 

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

 

there is nothing super about blanco.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

 

Nope.

You're persuasive, you...

 

Haha, you are too.

Thanks, yes I am. Blanco's defensive and game calling abilities are well documented as is the importance of both at the catcher position. I think that is rather persuasive, don't you?

 

And Derek Jeter is a gold glove caliber shortstop. I need something more than reputation to claim Blanco is some sort of defensive legend. Soto has the same great defensive reputation, and he has experience with many of our young arms.

[Guest]

I said he's no better. and we're talking about the backup freaking catcher here. if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, blanco ain't gonna save the cubs.

So a good bench isn't important? Besides a super-sub, the back-up catcher will start more games than any other bench player without injury coming into to play.

 

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

 

with if the rookie was joe mauer (when he was a rookie)?

[Guest]

I said he's no better. and we're talking about the backup freaking catcher here. if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, blanco ain't gonna save the cubs.

So a good bench isn't important? Besides a super-sub, the back-up catcher will start more games than any other bench player without injury coming into to play.

 

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

 

with if the rookie was joe mauer (when he was a rookie)?

 

or do you mean like when johnny estrada went down and that rookie mccann destroyed the braves?

[Guest]

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

 

I call BS.

 

Blanco is a .657 career OPSer. He's not a high standard to live up to.

And when evaluating a back-up catcher, OPS is the most important stat how? If that is what you are using to judge what Blanco brings to the table then you are missing the big picture.

 

I guarantee you the loss of offense from barrett to blanco would cost the cubs far more than the loss of defense from blanco to soto - if there was one.

[CubsWin]

I said he's no better. and we're talking about the backup freaking catcher here. if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, blanco ain't gonna save the cubs.

So a good bench isn't important? Besides a super-sub, the back-up catcher will start more games than any other bench player without injury coming into to play.

 

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

 

there is nothing super about blanco.

What? To what are you responding?

[Guest]

I said he's no better. and we're talking about the backup freaking catcher here. if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, blanco ain't gonna save the cubs.

So a good bench isn't important? Besides a super-sub, the back-up catcher will start more games than any other bench player without injury coming into to play.

 

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

 

there is nothing super about blanco.

What? To what are you responding?

 

you said blanco is a super-sub - he isn't. he's below league average.

[CubsWin]

I said he's no better. and we're talking about the backup freaking catcher here. if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, blanco ain't gonna save the cubs.

So a good bench isn't important? Besides a super-sub, the back-up catcher will start more games than any other bench player without injury coming into to play.

 

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

 

there is nothing super about blanco.

What? To what are you responding?

 

you said blanco is a super-sub - he isn't. he's below league average.

No I didn't. Read it again.

[Guest]

I said he's no better. and we're talking about the backup freaking catcher here. if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, blanco ain't gonna save the cubs.

So a good bench isn't important? Besides a super-sub, the back-up catcher will start more games than any other bench player without injury coming into to play.

 

And yes, if Barrett goes down in a pennant race, having Blanco fill his shoes over a rookie may well save the Cubs playoff hopes.

 

there is nothing super about blanco.

What? To what are you responding?

 

you said blanco is a super-sub - he isn't. he's below league average.

No I didn't. Read it again.

 

so why do you want a bad player like blanco filling that role then?