Fox Sports: Ramirez SIGNS WITH CUBS!

[Banedon]

I'm tentatively very happy. But we're just back to where we were...I want additions now please.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

And wheres a list of the type A's and B's?

 

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[Ding Dong Johnson]

And wheres a list of the type A's and B's?

 

Link

 

That list can't be right according to the 30-50-60 description at the top. The new CBA has the breakdown at 20-40 with C's eliminated.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Fair enough.

 

Try this out for size, from Jim Callis of BA:

 

Ari: Miguel Batista (B), Craig Counsell (B), Luis Gonzalez (A).

Atl: Danys Baez (A).

Bal: LaTroy Hawkins (B), Kevin Millar (A).

Bos: *Keith Foulke (B), Alex Gonzalez (B), Mark Loretta (A), Trot Nixon (B).

ChC: Juan Pierre (B), Aramis Ramirez (A).

CWS: *Dustin Hermanson (A), David Riske (A).

Cin: Rich Aurilia (A), Eddie Guardado (A), *Kent Mercker (B), Scott Schoeneweis (B), David Weathers (A).

Cle: None.

Col: Jose Mesa (B).

Det: Sean Casey (A), Jamie Walker (B).

Fla: Joe Borowski (A).

Hou: *Craig Biggio (B), *Roger Clemens (A), Aubrey Huff (A), *Andy Pettitte (A), Russ Springer (A).

KC: None.

LAA: Adam Kennedy (B).

LAD: *J.D. Drew (A), Eric Gagne (A), Nomar Garciaparra (B), *Kenny Lofton (B), Julio Lugo (A), Greg Maddux (A).

Mil: Tony Graffanino (A), Rick Helling (B), Tomo Ohka (B).

Min: None.

NYM: Chad Bradford (A), Cliff Floyd (A), *Tom Glavine (A), Orlando Hernandez (B), Roberto Hernandez (A), Guillermo Mota (B), Darren Oliver (B), Jose Valentin (B).

NYY: *Mike Mussina (A), *Gary Sheffield (A), Ron Villone (B).

Oak: Jay Payton (B), Frank Thomas (B), Barry Zito (A).

Phi: *Jeff Conine (B), *David Dellucci (A), Aaron Fultz (A), Mike Lieberthal (A), Arthur Rhodes (B).

Pit: *Jeromy Burnitz (B).

StL: Ronnie Belliard (A), *Jim Edmonds (A), Jason Marquis (B), *Mark Mulder (B), Jeff Suppan (A), Jeff Weaver (B), *Preston Wilson (B).

SD: Alan Embree (B), Ryan Klesko (B), Chan Ho Park (B), *Mike Piazza (A), Dave Roberts (A), Rudy Seanez (A), Todd Walker (A), *David Wells (B), Woody Williams (A).

SF: Moises Alou (A), Barry Bonds (A), Ray Durham (A), Pedro Feliz (B), Shea Hillenbrand (B), Jason Schmidt (A), Mike Stanton (B).

Sea: Gil Meche (B).

TB: None.

Tex: Rod Barajas (B), Mark DeRosa (B), Carlos Lee (A), Gary Matthews Jr. (A), Vicente Padilla (B).

Tor: Frank Catalanotto (A), Ted Lilly (B), Bengie Molina (A), Justin Speier (A), Gregg Zaun (B).

Was: Jose Guillen (B), Ramon Ortiz (B), Alfonso Soriano (A).

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Does anyone have a link to the full set of rules governing the number of FA's we'd be able to sign? I can't seem to find anything more than just general statements that don't tell me whether or not re-signing Aramis today vs yesterday would actually count against our max.

[A New Era]

I'm tentatively very happy. But we're just back to where we were...I want additions now please.

 

Well in fact we are higher than we were before.

 

Derreck Lee isn't injured, we do not have Pierre in CF. We are not paying Wood $13 million. Miller is probably close to fully rehabed and is only getting $0.5 million more and could be our #5 next year (in APRIL). Prior "could" come back. We have a hitting coach that preaches more patient hitting practices. We have a manager that will not stand for loosing and demand the team win close games. (IE: not laying over for the pirates and reds). We have a president and team that knows fans are angry and they are obviously going to push hard for some top talent and the goal is to win next year. And according to sources payroll was upped to $115 mil. So I would hardly say we are were we were last year. We are MUCH better. And it's going to get MUCH better.

[Laura]

I'm tentatively very happy. But we're just back to where we were...I want additions now please.

 

Well in fact we are higher than we were before.

 

Derreck Lee isn't injured, we do not have Pierre in CF. We are not paying Wood $13 million. Miller is probably close to fully rehabed and is only getting $0.5 million more and could be our #5 next year (in APRIL). Prior "could" come back. We have a hitting coach that preaches more patient hitting practices. We have a manager that will not stand for loosing and demand the team win close games. (IE: not laying over for the pirates and reds). We have a president and team that knows fans are angry and they are obviously going to push hard for some top talent and the goal is to win next year. And according to sources payroll was upped to $115 mil. So I would hardly say we are were we were last year. We are MUCH better. And it's going to get MUCH better.

 

The Cubs.com article that talks about Ramirez & Wood signing also said that Hendry will be talking with the agents for Pierre & Blanco over the next week.

[Banedon]

I'm tentatively very happy. But we're just back to where we were...I want additions now please.

 

Well in fact we are higher than we were before.

 

Derreck Lee isn't injured, we do not have Pierre in CF. We are not paying Wood $13 million. Miller is probably close to fully rehabed and is only getting $0.5 million more and could be our #5 next year (in APRIL). Prior "could" come back. We have a hitting coach that preaches more patient hitting practices. We have a manager that will not stand for loosing and demand the team win close games. (IE: not laying over for the pirates and reds). We have a president and team that knows fans are angry and they are obviously going to push hard for some top talent and the goal is to win next year. And according to sources payroll was upped to $115 mil. So I would hardly say we are were we were last year. We are MUCH better. And it's going to get MUCH better.

 

Getting a bad team more cheaply doesn't inherently make us better. There's plenty of Neifi Perez's and Glendon Rusch's out there for us to spend money on. D-Lee not being injured helps...agreed, but nothing says that he won't get hurt again. Pierre being gone doesn't mean that spot is going to be better either. We've done a good job so far of getting rid of the bad, and keeping the good. Now it's time to add. Until I see those positive additions, I'm going to remain skeptical. I've been burned enough.

[USSoccer]

I'm tentatively very happy. But we're just back to where we were...I want additions now please.

 

Well in fact we are higher than we were before.

 

Derreck Lee isn't injured, we do not have Pierre in CF. We are not paying Wood $13 million. Miller is probably close to fully rehabed and is only getting $0.5 million more and could be our #5 next year (in APRIL). Prior "could" come back. We have a hitting coach that preaches more patient hitting practices. We have a manager that will not stand for loosing and demand the team win close games. (IE: not laying over for the pirates and reds). We have a president and team that knows fans are angry and they are obviously going to push hard for some top talent and the goal is to win next year. And according to sources payroll was upped to $115 mil. So I would hardly say we are were we were last year. We are MUCH better. And it's going to get MUCH better.

 

The Cubs.com article that talks about Ramirez & Wood signing also said that Hendry will be talking with the agents for Pierre & Blanco over the next week.

 

Ugh. We can do better than both of them.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I'm tentatively very happy. But we're just back to where we were...I want additions now please.

 

Well in fact we are higher than we were before.

 

Derreck Lee isn't injured, we do not have Pierre in CF. We are not paying Wood $13 million. Miller is probably close to fully rehabed and is only getting $0.5 million more and could be our #5 next year (in APRIL). Prior "could" come back. We have a hitting coach that preaches more patient hitting practices. We have a manager that will not stand for loosing and demand the team win close games. (IE: not laying over for the pirates and reds). We have a president and team that knows fans are angry and they are obviously going to push hard for some top talent and the goal is to win next year. And according to sources payroll was upped to $115 mil. So I would hardly say we are were we were last year. We are MUCH better. And it's going to get MUCH better.

 

The Cubs.com article that talks about Ramirez & Wood signing also said that Hendry will be talking with the agents for Pierre & Blanco over the next week.

 

Hopefully it's just to identify Pierre's asking price to decide whether or not to offer arby. I've heard a few times they want Hank back.

[cubs121]

actually... i like Blanco (Hank White).... i wouldnt mind seeing him come back.. but... i kinda dont wanna see Pierre come back.. plus look at the price your going to have to pay for JP. :shock:

[CubFanPhilly]

Does anyone have a link to the full set of rules governing the number of FA's we'd be able to sign? I can't seem to find anything more than just general statements that don't tell me whether or not re-signing Aramis today vs yesterday would actually count against our max.

 

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Regular

 

*Though the conclusion that the quota would be three appears to be wrong. It looks like it's four this year, and if ARAM signed after the exclusive window closed he counts against that total. So it looks to me like the Cubs can sign THREE more A/B free agents.

 

Also, signings throught the posting system apparently don't count.

[radarluv1]

so durham and dave roberts are both type A? i'm hoping our other type A signing is a bigger impact player than those two.

[Rob]

so durham and dave roberts are both type A? i'm hoping our other type A signing is a bigger impact player than those two.

 

I'm wondering if this stuff transfers over to the new CBA, though.

[CubFanPhilly]

so durham and dave roberts are both type A? i'm hoping our other type A signing is a bigger impact player than those two.

 

The CBA doesn't distinguish between Type As and Type Bs for purposes of the quota. The Cubs can sign either three or four Type As (depending on whether ARAMs deal was agreed to before the deadline).

[jjgman21]

actually... i like Blanco (Hank White).... i wouldnt mind seeing him come back

 

I'd just go with Soto and save the couple of million.

[CuseCubFan69]

I just read the contract and it said Ramirez can be a free agent after the 1st year. :wink:

[A New Era]

I'm tentatively very happy. But we're just back to where we were...I want additions now please.

 

Well in fact we are higher than we were before.

 

Derreck Lee isn't injured, we do not have Pierre in CF. We are not paying Wood $13 million. Miller is probably close to fully rehabed and is only getting $0.5 million more and could be our #5 next year (in APRIL). Prior "could" come back. We have a hitting coach that preaches more patient hitting practices. We have a manager that will not stand for loosing and demand the team win close games. (IE: not laying over for the pirates and reds). We have a president and team that knows fans are angry and they are obviously going to push hard for some top talent and the goal is to win next year. And according to sources payroll was upped to $115 mil. So I would hardly say we are were we were last year. We are MUCH better. And it's going to get MUCH better.

 

Getting a bad team more cheaply doesn't inherently make us better. There's plenty of Neifi Perez's and Glendon Rusch's out there for us to spend money on. D-Lee not being injured helps...agreed, but nothing says that he won't get hurt again. Pierre being gone doesn't mean that spot is going to be better either. We've done a good job so far of getting rid of the bad, and keeping the good. Now it's time to add. Until I see those positive additions, I'm going to remain skeptical. I've been burned enough.

 

I'm waiting for those positive actions as well. But we are clearly in a better position now than we were in mid last season with those coaches, woods money and Lee out. While getting a "bad" team (as you call them) more cheaply doesn't make us better per se. It does give us even more money to spend to make the team better.

[Banedon]

I'm tentatively very happy. But we're just back to where we were...I want additions now please.

 

Well in fact we are higher than we were before.

 

Derreck Lee isn't injured, we do not have Pierre in CF. We are not paying Wood $13 million. Miller is probably close to fully rehabed and is only getting $0.5 million more and could be our #5 next year (in APRIL). Prior "could" come back. We have a hitting coach that preaches more patient hitting practices. We have a manager that will not stand for loosing and demand the team win close games. (IE: not laying over for the pirates and reds). We have a president and team that knows fans are angry and they are obviously going to push hard for some top talent and the goal is to win next year. And according to sources payroll was upped to $115 mil. So I would hardly say we are were we were last year. We are MUCH better. And it's going to get MUCH better.

 

Getting a bad team more cheaply doesn't inherently make us better. There's plenty of Neifi Perez's and Glendon Rusch's out there for us to spend money on. D-Lee not being injured helps...agreed, but nothing says that he won't get hurt again. Pierre being gone doesn't mean that spot is going to be better either. We've done a good job so far of getting rid of the bad, and keeping the good. Now it's time to add. Until I see those positive additions, I'm going to remain skeptical. I've been burned enough.

 

I'm waiting for those positive actions as well. But we are clearly in a better position now than we were in mid last season with those coaches, woods money and Lee out. While getting a "bad" team (as you call them) more cheaply doesn't make us better per se. It does give us even more money to spend to make the team better.

 

Agreed...I'm just skeptical of Hendry actually spending that money wisely. I'm ready to be proven wrong.

[CuseCubFan69]

actually... i like Blanco (Hank White).... i wouldnt mind seeing him come back

 

I'd just go with Soto and save the couple of million.

 

Me too unless the Cubs can afford Blanco and all the other toys I want them to have.

[Blueheart05]

actually... i like Blanco (Hank White).... i wouldnt mind seeing him come back

 

I'd just go with Soto and save the couple of million.

 

I can easily see the Cubs allowing Hank to walk while promoting Soto; especially since he works well with Rich Hill. That being said, I think Blanco is the best defensive catcher on the team.

[cubs121]

I just read the contract and it said Ramirez can be a free agent after the 1st year. :wink:

ohhh please!!!! :D

[Jon]

I'll be pretty surprised if Hendry lets Blanco walk. I don't see Jim giving up the tendancy to give multi-year deals to terrible players who could easily be replaced by guys who make major league minimum.

 

Although, I do find it quite amusing that Blanco is coming off a career year.

[A New Era]

I'm tentatively very happy. But we're just back to where we were...I want additions now please.

 

Well in fact we are higher than we were before.

 

Derreck Lee isn't injured, we do not have Pierre in CF. We are not paying Wood $13 million. Miller is probably close to fully rehabed and is only getting $0.5 million more and could be our #5 next year (in APRIL). Prior "could" come back. We have a hitting coach that preaches more patient hitting practices. We have a manager that will not stand for loosing and demand the team win close games. (IE: not laying over for the pirates and reds). We have a president and team that knows fans are angry and they are obviously going to push hard for some top talent and the goal is to win next year. And according to sources payroll was upped to $115 mil. So I would hardly say we are were we were last year. We are MUCH better. And it's going to get MUCH better.

 

Getting a bad team more cheaply doesn't inherently make us better. There's plenty of Neifi Perez's and Glendon Rusch's out there for us to spend money on. D-Lee not being injured helps...agreed, but nothing says that he won't get hurt again. Pierre being gone doesn't mean that spot is going to be better either. We've done a good job so far of getting rid of the bad, and keeping the good. Now it's time to add. Until I see those positive additions, I'm going to remain skeptical. I've been burned enough.

 

I'm waiting for those positive actions as well. But we are clearly in a better position now than we were in mid last season with those coaches, woods money and Lee out. While getting a "bad" team (as you call them) more cheaply doesn't make us better per se. It does give us even more money to spend to make the team better.

 

Agreed...I'm just skeptical of Hendry actually spending that money wisely. I'm ready to be proven wrong.

 

Well it's just, to me. Piniella agreeing to come in, the raised payroll, and Mcdunough's statements all point in the right direction. The recent news with Aram. Everything is looking good so far.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

I'll be pretty surprised if Hendry lets Blanco walk. I don't see Jim giving up the tendancy to give multi-year deals to terrible players who could easily be replaced by guys who make major league minimum.

 

Although, I do find it quite amusing that Blanco is coming off a career year.

 

Oh come on. How can you forget his 2000 season?