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Some of you guys wouldn't be happy no matter who Hendry picks, isn't that right? Some complain about Girardi or Piniella or Bochy or Brenly blah blah blah...

 

The manager matters little, I keep saying that...but it's true, unless you are a guy named Leyland or Larussa...at least IMO...

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I don't think Leyland or LaRussa are particularly good managers. But anyways, I was originally against Lou because of things I heard about him on here. After hearing him talk about needing to work the count and not putting horrible OBP players at the top of the order, I've started to shift sides. I'm gonna take a wait and see approach on this one. I do know that a hard-nosed fiery manager could do this team some good. They really lacked fundamentals last year and I didn't like the overall attitude of the team. We'll have to see how this turns out. Jesus Christ, himself, couldn't lead this team, as its currently assembled, to a WS. Jim Hendry has some work to do.
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It's beyond me how any of you can be anti-Piniella. This guy is a hard-nosed winner who will impart a winning attitude and discipline into our lazy Cubs.

 

 

it's beyond me how any of you can be anti-baker. this guy is a hard-nosed winner who will impart a winning attitude and discipline into our lazy cubs.
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I don't think Leyland or LaRussa are particularly good managers. But anyways, I was originally against Lou because of things I heard about him on here. After hearing him talk about needing to work the count and not putting horrible OBP players at the top of the order, I've started to shift sides. I'm gonna take a wait and see approach on this one. I do know that a hard-nosed fiery manager could do this team some good. They really lacked fundamentals last year and I didn't like the overall attitude of the team. We'll have to see how this turns out. Jesus Christ, himself, couldn't lead this team, as its currently assembled, to a WS. Jim Hendry has some work to do.

 

Just curious, where did you hear him say this?

 

Did he say it in the playoff broadcasts or something? I haven't really been watching. Baseball has been dead to me since May or so.

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I don't think Leyland or LaRussa are particularly good managers. But anyways, I was originally against Lou because of things I heard about him on here. After hearing him talk about needing to work the count and not putting horrible OBP players at the top of the order, I've started to shift sides. I'm gonna take a wait and see approach on this one. I do know that a hard-nosed fiery manager could do this team some good. They really lacked fundamentals last year and I didn't like the overall attitude of the team. We'll have to see how this turns out. Jesus Christ, himself, couldn't lead this team, as its currently assembled, to a WS. Jim Hendry has some work to do.

 

Just curious, where did you hear him say this?

 

Did he say it in the playoff broadcasts or something? I haven't really been watching. Baseball has been dead to me since May or so.

yes he made several comments like this during the play off broadcasts
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Is that really all that matters anymore when deciding if a manager will be successful - talking about OBP? Is there nothing to be said for how a manager defines roles for players, if he is an excellent teacher and mentor, does he make well planned substitutions, etc? So now we've gone from fuming anti-Piniella loathing, to acceptance, just because he brought up OBP at the top of the lineup, probably making you all remember that fad/clique hatred everyone had for Neifi?

 

Jeez.

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I was never anti Piniella so nobody can say that I'm just jumping on the bandwagon. One thing I look foward to is him covering the plate with dirt or throwing 2nd base or something, and then wrigley going crazy. You all know you are gonna love it.
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I guess Piniella will get to do to Z what Dusty couldn't complete.
this is my biggest concern when it comes to Sweaty Lou.
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Is that really all that matters anymore when deciding if a manager will be successful - talking about OBP? Is there nothing to be said for how a manager defines roles for players, is an excellent teacher and mentor, makes well planned substitutions, etc? So now we've gone from fuming anti-Piniella loathing, to acceptance, just because he brought up OBP at the top of the lineup, probably bringing up that fad clique hatred we all had for Neifi?

 

Jeez.

 

You've named just one positive. Not mentioned that fact that in his fits he has he also happens to run out to the feild and defend his players at the same time. Something baker didn't want his baby boy to see. He also would be a stark contrast to Baker's "buddy system". I think he can get more out of our players than Baker ever could. I don't think we will underacheive as much as we have once we get him at the helm. .

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Some of you guys wouldn't be happy no matter who Hendry picks, isn't that right? Some complain about Girardi or Piniella or Bochy or Brenly blah blah blah...

 

The manager matters little, I keep saying that...but it's true, unless you are a guy named Leyland or Larussa...at least IMO...

 

God himself could descend from heaven directly upon Wrigley to manage the Cubs and wouldn't be enough for some around here.

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I guess Piniella will get to do to Z what Dusty couldn't complete.
this is my biggest concern when it comes to Sweaty Lou.

 

Err, I accidentally deleted my post, but yeah...pitcher abuse is why I don't like Lou.

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Some of you guys wouldn't be happy no matter who Hendry picks, isn't that right? Some complain about Girardi or Piniella or Bochy or Brenly blah blah blah...

 

The manager matters little, I keep saying that...but it's true, unless you are a guy named Leyland or Larussa...at least IMO...

 

God himself could descend from heaven directly upon Wrigley to manage the Cubs and wouldn't be enough for some around here.

 

That's some ridiculous hyperbole.

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Some of you guys wouldn't be happy no matter who Hendry picks, isn't that right? Some complain about Girardi or Piniella or Bochy or Brenly blah blah blah...

 

The manager matters little, I keep saying that...but it's true, unless you are a guy named Leyland or Larussa...at least IMO...

 

God himself could descend from heaven directly upon Wrigley to manage the Cubs and wouldn't be enough for some around here.

 

That's some ridiculous hyperbole.

but the best kind of hyperbole is ridiculous hyperbole
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I have a Mariners fan friend that has been so his entire life, and he will preach about Piniella, and what a gem we possibly have in acquiring him.

 

Baker was not a fit for Chicago, his thin Californian skin was not accustomed to the icy media. We're no New York, but it's no Southern California either.

 

Piniella has managed (obviously) on the biggest stages, the Bronx, and the World Series. He had a 119 freaking win season with the Mariners. Even with the Rays, players like Huff, Baldelli, and Crawford exploded onto the scene. Since, all 3 of those players have arguably regressed.

 

Piniella is a stud, and will lead us into NL Central contention next year if we can acquire some not necessarily top notch, but consistent starting pitching.

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Some of you guys wouldn't be happy no matter who Hendry picks, isn't that right? Some complain about Girardi or Piniella or Bochy or Brenly blah blah blah...

 

The manager matters little, I keep saying that...but it's true, unless you are a guy named Leyland or Larussa...at least IMO...

 

God himself could descend from heaven directly upon Wrigley to manage the Cubs and wouldn't be enough for some around here.

 

That's some ridiculous hyperbole.

 

I won't deny that. :)

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Some of you guys wouldn't be happy no matter who Hendry picks, isn't that right? Some complain about Girardi or Piniella or Bochy or Brenly blah blah blah...

 

The manager matters little, I keep saying that...but it's true, unless you are a guy named Leyland or Larussa...at least IMO...

 

God himself could descend from heaven directly upon Wrigley to manage the Cubs and wouldn't be enough for some around here.

 

That's some ridiculous hyperbole.

 

Yeah, I think I'd be satisfied with God. I guess I'd have to first see how he handles the pitching staff though.

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Some of you guys wouldn't be happy no matter who Hendry picks, isn't that right? Some complain about Girardi or Piniella or Bochy or Brenly blah blah blah...

 

The manager matters little, I keep saying that...but it's true, unless you are a guy named Leyland or Larussa...at least IMO...

 

God himself could descend from heaven directly upon Wrigley to manage the Cubs and wouldn't be enough for some around here.

 

Coming from a man -or- woman who just got done critizicing our new manager. Ironic this comment was just a few posts after what you were ciriticising. .

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Piniella is a stud, and will lead us into NL Central contention next year if we can acquire some not necessarily top notch, but consistent starting pitching.

contending in the worst division in MLB isnt exactly what anyone is hopeing for, if all we do is contend in the central, this Sweaty Lou experiment will be a complete flop
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Some of you guys wouldn't be happy no matter who Hendry picks, isn't that right? Some complain about Girardi or Piniella or Bochy or Brenly blah blah blah...

 

The manager matters little, I keep saying that...but it's true, unless you are a guy named Leyland or Larussa...at least IMO...

 

God himself could descend from heaven directly upon Wrigley to manage the Cubs and wouldn't be enough for some around here.

 

That's some ridiculous hyperbole.

 

Yeah, I think I'd be satisfied with God. I guess I'd have to first see how he handles the pitching staff though.

"His" expectations are ridiculously high, though. I've also heard that he runs too tight of a clubhouse for some players. I mean come on, they think Showalter is strict!

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Piniella is a stud, and will lead us into NL Central contention next year if we can acquire some not necessarily top notch, but consistent starting pitching.

contending in the worst division in MLB isnt exactly what anyone is hopeing for, if all we do is contend in the central, this Sweaty Lou experiment will be a complete flop

 

Yeah but the stat monk. . . ER HERM!! "some" people say "We'll we are horrible. We cannot go from 30 under .500 to contention no matter WHO we sign"!!!!.>!.1.!!>.!.!>!!!##!@~!~!!!

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Piniella is a stud, and will lead us into NL Central contention next year if we can acquire some not necessarily top notch, but consistent starting pitching.

 

So is Piniella going to improve the offense with his presence, or is he going to manage us into contention with one of the worst offenses in baseball?

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Tracy Ringolsby, Rocky Mountain News[/url]"] Chicago Cubs general manager Jim Hendry will open contract talks with Lou Piniella concerning the Cubs managerial job today. If the Cubs decide they can’t make a deal they like, they will turn to San Diego manager Bruce Bochy.

 

The Cubs have not asked for permission to talk to Bochy out of respect for Bochy. The feeling is if they interview Bochy that means they want to hire him and they have to be ready to make him an offer ... Former manager Jimy Williams is in line for a coaching job in Philadelphia ... Joe Girardi will rejoin the coaching staff of Yankee manager Joe Torre if he doesn’t land the Washington or Cubs managerial job.

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Welcome the white Dusty Baker. Ugh.

 

Oh, and if the Cubs manage to be successful in 2007 it will not be because of Lou Piniella.

 

I will go on record and agree with this right now.

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Welcome the white Dusty Baker. Ugh.

 

Oh, and if the Cubs manage to be successful in 2007 it will not be because of Lou Piniella.

 

I think Lou is a notch or two above Dusty.

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