The Soccer Thread

[wolf stansson]

You're wrong about Dempsey in both respects. His shoulder was barely off on a long ball from his end, and his body was even. That play is supposed to go to the advantage of the attacking player, per FIFA. Secondly, the ref chose to let play continue, which FIFA also allows for, and didn't even reach for his whistle until after the ball was in the net. He had at least 10 seconds to blow the play dead after it was clear Clint possesed the ball, and didn't. That's poor officiating. Also, considering that Clint played 95% of the game with his back to goal and with horrible service, he did very well to win most everything that came his way. He and Jozy make a good offensive pairing.

 

The refs always, ALWAYS, call offsides if it's that close and never give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking player. It never happens. When in doubt, the flag goes up. And all that was onsides were Dempsey's feet. His body was offsides albeit not by much. As for the referee letting the play continue, maybe he didn't look at the linesman until much later and maybe he blew his whistle while it was going on but nobody heard it - something that happened more than a couple times last night because of the noise.

 

The refs didn't blow that game last night. Sure, there were a couple calls that were questionable and I didn't agree with a couple of the yellow cards but they didn't cause us to tie, Drew Moor did.

 

EDIT: And I didn't mean to say Clint sucked, just that he didn't do much. That's not so much on him but on the team's attack in general which was pretty disappointing as a whole.

On the replay they showed at halftime, you could see that the ref never looked at the linesman during the entire clip. He even signaled that it was a goal, which means that it wasn't called until probably 15-20 seconds after the flag went up.

And much like tie goes to the runner, too close to call offsides go to the attacking player. US is right.

[Jon]

AP[/url]"]LONDON -- England's Premier League could be going global.

 

The league's 20 clubs agreed unanimously Thursday to examine proposals to expand the regular season and play 10 games overseas starting in 2010-11.

 

The matches would be played at five venues around the world over a single weekend in January 2011. Each city would host one game on Saturday and one on Sunday.

 

The international round would be in addition to the traditional 38 home and away matches each of the clubs currently play.

...........

No potential host cities or countries have been discussed, Scudamore said. However, he said the league would avoid venues with potential bad weather conditions. That would appear to rule out the U.S. East Coast and Midwest.

 

Despite protests from coaches that their players already have too many matches, the switch to a 39-game season would start in 2010-11 when a new television broadcast agreement is scheduled to take effect.

[stuy119]

AP[/url]"]LONDON -- England's Premier League could be going global.

 

The league's 20 clubs agreed unanimously Thursday to examine proposals to expand the regular season and play 10 games overseas starting in 2010-11.

 

The matches would be played at five venues around the world over a single weekend in January 2011. Each city would host one game on Saturday and one on Sunday.

 

The international round would be in addition to the traditional 38 home and away matches each of the clubs currently play.

...........

No potential host cities or countries have been discussed, Scudamore said. However, he said the league would avoid venues with potential bad weather conditions. That would appear to rule out the U.S. East Coast and Midwest.

 

Despite protests from coaches that their players already have too many matches, the switch to a 39-game season would start in 2010-11 when a new television broadcast agreement is scheduled to take effect.

 

Yes, because England has such lovely weather in January as it is.

 

Not to mention that they would be alienating a major potential fanbase by skipping Chicago, New England, and New York.

[Guest]

You're wrong about Dempsey in both respects. His shoulder was barely off on a long ball from his end, and his body was even. That play is supposed to go to the advantage of the attacking player, per FIFA. Secondly, the ref chose to let play continue, which FIFA also allows for, and didn't even reach for his whistle until after the ball was in the net. He had at least 10 seconds to blow the play dead after it was clear Clint possesed the ball, and didn't. That's poor officiating. Also, considering that Clint played 95% of the game with his back to goal and with horrible service, he did very well to win most everything that came his way. He and Jozy make a good offensive pairing.

 

The refs always, ALWAYS, call offsides if it's that close and never give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking player. It never happens. When in doubt, the flag goes up. And all that was onsides were Dempsey's feet. His body was offsides albeit not by much. As for the referee letting the play continue, maybe he didn't look at the linesman until much later and maybe he blew his whistle while it was going on but nobody heard it - something that happened more than a couple times last night because of the noise.

 

The refs didn't blow that game last night. Sure, there were a couple calls that were questionable and I didn't agree with a couple of the yellow cards but they didn't cause us to tie, Drew Moor did.

 

EDIT: And I didn't mean to say Clint sucked, just that he didn't do much. That's not so much on him but on the team's attack in general which was pretty disappointing as a whole.

On the replay they showed at halftime, you could see that the ref never looked at the linesman during the entire clip. He even signaled that it was a goal, which means that it wasn't called until probably 15-20 seconds after the flag went up.

 

Then the ref is an idiot for not looking. But it doesn't mean he made the wrong call. It sucks that it happened that way because I was pretty pumped up when Dempsey scored as well but the right call was made.

[brinoch]

Dempsey might have been half a step offsides when the ball was played. His feet look to be onside, but his head is clearly off, and his shoulder might be off. However, it's very hard to see. I might still have the game in non-HD; I can look tonight. Moreover, because of the flight of the ball, Dempsey gained no advantage by being offsides. By the time he actually played it, he was in an onside position -- not that that matters, of course. Because of the way the play developed, the call is magnified, but I think Dempsey was probably offsides, though it's a really, really, really questionable call.

 

On a play that close, if you're going to call that offsides, you really need to do straight away. Not once the ball is in the net. Dempsey's individual effort made the play, and if he hadn't scored, the ref wouldn't have called it offsides. Which to me means that it shouldn't have been called at all.

[Guest]

AP[/url]"]LONDON -- England's Premier League could be going global.

 

The league's 20 clubs agreed unanimously Thursday to examine proposals to expand the regular season and play 10 games overseas starting in 2010-11.

 

The matches would be played at five venues around the world over a single weekend in January 2011. Each city would host one game on Saturday and one on Sunday.

 

The international round would be in addition to the traditional 38 home and away matches each of the clubs currently play.

...........

No potential host cities or countries have been discussed, Scudamore said. However, he said the league would avoid venues with potential bad weather conditions. That would appear to rule out the U.S. East Coast and Midwest.

 

Despite protests from coaches that their players already have too many matches, the switch to a 39-game season would start in 2010-11 when a new television broadcast agreement is scheduled to take effect.

 

Yes, because England has such lovely weather in January as it is.

 

Not to mention that they would be alienating a major potential fanbase by skipping Chicago, New England, and New York.

 

Sucks to be you guys. :D

[Guest]

You're wrong about Dempsey in both respects. His shoulder was barely off on a long ball from his end, and his body was even. That play is supposed to go to the advantage of the attacking player, per FIFA. Secondly, the ref chose to let play continue, which FIFA also allows for, and didn't even reach for his whistle until after the ball was in the net. He had at least 10 seconds to blow the play dead after it was clear Clint possesed the ball, and didn't. That's poor officiating. Also, considering that Clint played 95% of the game with his back to goal and with horrible service, he did very well to win most everything that came his way. He and Jozy make a good offensive pairing.

 

The refs always, ALWAYS, call offsides if it's that close and never give the benefit of the doubt to the attacking player. It never happens. When in doubt, the flag goes up. And all that was onsides were Dempsey's feet. His body was offsides albeit not by much. As for the referee letting the play continue, maybe he didn't look at the linesman until much later and maybe he blew his whistle while it was going on but nobody heard it - something that happened more than a couple times last night because of the noise.

 

The refs didn't blow that game last night. Sure, there were a couple calls that were questionable and I didn't agree with a couple of the yellow cards but they didn't cause us to tie, Drew Moor did.

 

EDIT: And I didn't mean to say Clint sucked, just that he didn't do much. That's not so much on him but on the team's attack in general which was pretty disappointing as a whole.

On the replay they showed at halftime, you could see that the ref never looked at the linesman during the entire clip. He even signaled that it was a goal, which means that it wasn't called until probably 15-20 seconds after the flag went up.

And much like tie goes to the runner, too close to call offsides go to the attacking player. US is right.

 

The difference is in baseball, umpires almost always give the tie to the runner. Right or wrong, linesman always raise their flag on offsides if it's close and the call will almost always favor the defense. That's how all linesman do it and you're crazy if you think you've seen differently. The linesman obviously thought it was close and he raised his flag immediately. I realize that the referee didn't blow the whistle until later but the linesman raised his flag, didn't move and kept it up until the ref saw him. Things like that have happened before when a linesman signals something and the ref doesn't see him for a while. This situation just happens to be much more important because it ended up in a goal.

[wolf stansson]

I know that's how it usually done, but the rule is that it should be onside. This is the big problem with the offside rule, too open to individual interpretation, however there is no good solution.

[sethuel1]

your sig picture is amazing, by the way

[wolf stansson]

your sig picture is amazing, by the way

It would've been more amazing if it wasn't called a BS foul and Jozy scored.

[sethuel1]

your sig picture is amazing, by the way

It would've been more amazing if it wasn't called a BS foul and Jozy scored.

I like how Marquez waited until Jozy was between him and the ref and then just bit it, even though he hadn't been touched. Oh wait, no I don't. marquez is such a giant bitch.

[MPC]

chelsea-liverpool sunday morning at 10 am on fsc.

 

liverpool is almost getting desperate for points, chelsea needs to keep pace with arsenal and man utd. for any chance to win the league. should be a good one.

[wolf stansson]

chelsea-liverpool sunday morning at 10 am on fsc.

 

liverpool is almost getting desperate for points, chelsea needs to keep pace with arsenal and man utd. for any chance to win the league. should be a good one.

Same time as Werder-Bayern on GOL TV. I'm torn. Torres is out, so the home unbeaten streak should continue.

Edited February 9, 2008 by wolf stansson

[brinoch]

your sig picture is amazing, by the way

It would've been more amazing if it wasn't called a BS foul and Jozy scored.

I like how Marquez waited until Jozy was between him and the ref and then just bit it, even though he hadn't been touched. Oh wait, no I don't. marquez is such a giant bitch.

 

I declare open season on Marquez. Have at him.

[sethuel1]

your sig picture is amazing, by the way

It would've been more amazing if it wasn't called a BS foul and Jozy scored.

I like how Marquez waited until Jozy was between him and the ref and then just bit it, even though he hadn't been touched. Oh wait, no I don't. marquez is such a giant bitch.

 

I declare open season on Marquez. Have at him.

I'm sure I've told this before, but at the US-Mex WC qualifier in Columbus in 2005, my buddy and I chanted "Puta Marquez" for about 15 solid minutes even though our voices were shot and we were annoying everyone else around us (we were in the Crew season ticket holder section, so people had their families and crap, weren't standing up, etc. Not that it made any impact on how we acted). Also there was an 8 year old mexican boy in front of us. Also we realized later that we were calling Rafa a female whore instead of a male whore, but I actually found that more apt and amusing anyway.

[sethuel1]

Also I want Nike to come out with the "don't tread on me" red t-shirts again. I'd buy about 85 of them.

http://www.soccer.com/channels/features/nike_dontTread/dtom_800.jpg

Sorry for the size

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I found out that the TV with DirecTV has FSC and GolTV, awesome. Saw the end of Deportivo-Betis and realized that if I were ever in charge of soccer, that people who intentionally interfere with free kicks to stall will be thrown in a pit with Seth after we told him they were responsible for Dempsey's offsides. Honestly, there are fewer things that piss me off more than that, even in games where I have no personal interest in who wins.

[shnsajax]

I found out that the TV with DirecTV has FSC and GolTV, awesome. Saw the end of Deportivo-Betis and realized that if I were ever in charge of soccer, that people who intentionally interfere with free kicks to stall will be thrown in a pit with Seth after we told him they were responsible for Dempsey's offsides. Honestly, there are fewer things that piss me off more than that, even in games where I have no personal interest in who wins.

 

In cases in which I know the official is not ready I would drill right at the person as hard as I could. I hate it too.

[sethuel1]

I found out that the TV with DirecTV has FSC and GolTV, awesome. Saw the end of Deportivo-Betis and realized that if I were ever in charge of soccer, that people who intentionally interfere with free kicks to stall will be thrown in a pit with Seth after we told him they were responsible for Dempsey's offsides. Honestly, there are fewer things that piss me off more than that, even in games where I have no personal interest in who wins.

 

In cases in which I know the official is not ready I would drill right at the person as hard as I could. I hate it too.

I don't understand why it's not just an automatic yellow for doing that

[imb]

I found out that the TV with DirecTV has FSC and GolTV, awesome. Saw the end of Deportivo-Betis and realized that if I were ever in charge of soccer, that people who intentionally interfere with free kicks to stall will be thrown in a pit with Seth after we told him they were responsible for Dempsey's offsides. Honestly, there are fewer things that piss me off more than that, even in games where I have no personal interest in who wins.

 

In cases in which I know the official is not ready I would drill right at the person as hard as I could. I hate it too.

 

a guy on my HS team loved to mess with free kicks like this, just nonchalantly strolling through, stuff like that. I mean, it was obviously purposeful, but the way he did it usually kept him out of trouble, a ref would yell at him to move and that would be that. I don't think he ever drew a card or anything.

 

Anyway, one day someone had enough and laced one right into his side. It would have been much funnier, except that he saw it coming and turned. Either way it bruised his ribs and knocked the wind out of him. He was laying on the ground in a heap, rolling around. It was one of the better things I'd ever seen on a field before.

[wolf stansson]

I found out that the TV with DirecTV has FSC and GolTV, awesome. Saw the end of Deportivo-Betis and realized that if I were ever in charge of soccer, that people who intentionally interfere with free kicks to stall will be thrown in a pit with Seth after we told him they were responsible for Dempsey's offsides. Honestly, there are fewer things that piss me off more than that, even in games where I have no personal interest in who wins.

You keepers are touchy.

 

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20080207/capt.f754dac1510a43298e9a6be27b90c074.mexico_us_soccer_htt111.jpg

[Guest]

your sig picture is amazing, by the way

It would've been more amazing if it wasn't called a BS foul and Jozy scored.

I like how Marquez waited until Jozy was between him and the ref and then just bit it, even though he hadn't been touched. Oh wait, no I don't. marquez is such a giant bitch.

 

I particularly enjoyed on Jozy's goal that Moor's crossed went right over Marquez's head. I was already happy because the US had scored but that only made it better.

[wolf stansson]

Sevilla-Barcelona on Gol TV. Ronaldinho drinking a freaking pepsi on the bench.

[MPC]

Sevilla-Barcelona on Gol TV. Ronaldinho drinking a freaking pepsi on the bench.

ha ha...he might as well be holding up a sign that says "please come and get me, milan."

[wolf stansson]

Sevilla-Barcelona on Gol TV. Ronaldinho drinking a freaking pepsi on the bench.

ha ha...he might as well be holding up a sign that says "please come and get me, milan."

Unfortunately I have a hunch it'll be our Chelsea.

 

I hope I'm wrong. That Pepsi wasn't diet.