Prior to the DL? Also, Z to Make Next Start.

[Outshined_One]

Prior could be headed back to DL?

Mark Prior - S - CHC - Jul. 13 - 1:26 pm et

 

Mark Prior will try throwing Thursday at a team workout, then will decide whether he can start make his scheduled start on Sunday or whether he must be pushed back.

If the injury is determined to be serious enough, Prior could be placed on the 15-day disabled list Friday. He is 0-4 in his first four starts back from the DL and continues to have difficulty with his breaking ball. Jul. 13 - 1:26 pm et

Source: Chicago Sun-Times

 

Carlos Zambrano expects to make next start

Carlos Zambrano - S - CHC - Jul. 13 - 9:44 am et

 

Carlos Zambrano gave the Cubs assurances about his physical well-being in a phone call with trainer Mark O'Neal.

White Sox coach Joey Cora accidentally hit him in his pitching elbow with a bat during All-Star Game batting practice Tuesday night in Pittsburgh. "He said he feels fine and that he fully expects to make his next start," GM Jim Hendry said He's scheduled to start Saturday against the Mets. Jul. 13 - 9:44 am et

Source: Chicago Sun-Times

 

From Rotoworld.

[impaler_240]

I am gonna slit my wrist. :roll:

[CUBZ99]

Well, Hill will supposedly get his shot according to the papers this morning.

[CubsBullsBears]

Well, Hill will supposedly get his shot according to the papers this morning.

Rusch will get it over him.

[Shavo]

I am gonna slit my wrist. :roll:

 

 

Why the hell would you say somthing like that?

[CUBZ99]

Well, Hill will supposedly get his shot according to the papers this morning.

Rusch will get it over him.

 

With the paper's comments and Hendry's tonight, my guess would be that Hill will take his spot in the rotation if Prior goes on the DL.

[CubsBullsBears]

Well, Hill will supposedly get his shot according to the papers this morning.

Rusch will get it over him.

 

With the paper's comments and Hendry's tonight, my guess would be that Hill will take his spot in the rotation if Prior goes on the DL.

And he'll get bombed his 1st start, sent back to AAA, and Rusch will take his spot, b/c he "earned it."

[abuck1220]

the cubs have also talked about going w/ a 4 man rotation out of the gate, which would rank in most organizations' top 10 stupid things to do, but with the cubs it would just sneak in the top 50.

 

in other words, if prior goes to the DL, hill/guzman will come up and sit in the pen for two weeks.

[Andy]

This clinches it for me. Z is indestructible.

[sporrer17]

Wow. talk about polar opposites on the same team. Zambrano is hit on the throwing elbow with a bat and will make his next start. Prior strains his oblique and goes to the DL.

 

Anyone else find that absolutely freaking hilarious? :roll:

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Why does Hill get the start? Is Guzman part of the discussion? I know Hill is pitching well in the minors again, but we have seen this before. In his last few outings with the Cubs Guzman showed that he can get guys out.

[sporrer17]

Why does Hill get the start? Is Guzman part of the discussion? I know Hill is pitching well in the minors again, but we have seen this before. In his last few outings with the Cubs Guzman showed that he can get guys out.

 

Because Hill has been pitching out of his mind, and Guzman has been just average since returning to Iowa. Hill still has not had much of an opportunity up here...I still think he's got big league potential (as a nice 2/3 starter)

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Why does Hill get the start? Is Guzman part of the discussion? I know Hill is pitching well in the minors again, but we have seen this before. In his last few outings with the Cubs Guzman showed that he can get guys out.

 

What more does Rich Hill have to prove at AAA? Let's see if he can make adjustments at the big league level.

 

Also, Guzman is still getting his arm strengthened after getting an 18-day vacation to the end of the big league bullpen.

[sporrer17]

Plus think about it this way...less starts for Rusch.

 

Zambrano, Maddux, Marmol, Marshall, Hill.

 

At least we know Hill is capable of going deep into games. He's a big K guy, so he will throw a lot of pitches, but he's been doing it for a while now. Guzman seems to fall apart before getting to the 4-5 inning mark. Hill's problem is just location, not endurance.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Why does Hill get the start? Is Guzman part of the discussion? I know Hill is pitching well in the minors again, but we have seen this before. In his last few outings with the Cubs Guzman showed that he can get guys out.

 

What more does Rich Hill have to prove at AAA? Let's see if he can make adjustments at the big league level.

 

Also, Guzman is still getting his arm strengthened after getting an 18-day vacation to the end of the big league bullpen.

 

I'm fine with giving him another shot, but the guy just baffles me. He dominates in AAA but then gets shelled outing after outing in the majors. How many more chances do we give this guy to prove himself?

[Drew Doughty]

rich hill has pitched 43.1 innings in his career. i think he has a lot more time to prove himself. didn't really see the mariners give up on Hernandez after his rough start. i don't think the twins are going to give up on scott baker.

 

hill has plenty of time to prove himself still. his only problem is age, which is a rather large problem, but it doesn't really bother me so long as he "figures it out" as a Cub.

[Bobson Dugnutt]

Comparing Rich Hill (26-year old rookie) to Felix Hernandez (a 19-year old rookie) is hardly fair. Besides, after Hernandez's first 44 innings he had a 1.84 ERA and a .176 BAA so the comparison really doesn't work.

 

My concern is that Guzman, who has been more productive than Hill at the major league level (yes I know it is a small sample size) is losing starts to this guy who batters have just teed off of nearly every time he has started.

[TB_11]

Wow. talk about polar opposites on the same team. Zambrano is hit on the throwing elbow with a bat and will make his next start. Prior strains his oblique and goes to the DL.

 

Anyone else find that absolutely freaking hilarious? :roll:

 

Yes.

 

This clinches it for me. Z is indestructible.

 

The man is a Sherman tank.

[sporrer17]

Wow. talk about polar opposites on the same team. Zambrano is hit on the throwing elbow with a bat and will make his next start. Prior strains his oblique and goes to the DL.

 

Anyone else find that absolutely freaking hilarious? :roll:

 

Yes.

 

This clinches it for me. Z is indestructible.

 

The man is a Sherman tank.

 

haha the 2nd quote wasn't me, but i'll claim it if no one else does :lol:

[CaliforniaRaisin]

Why does Hill get the start? Is Guzman part of the discussion? I know Hill is pitching well in the minors again, but we have seen this before. In his last few outings with the Cubs Guzman showed that he can get guys out.

 

What more does Rich Hill have to prove at AAA? Let's see if he can make adjustments at the big league level.

 

Also, Guzman is still getting his arm strengthened after getting an 18-day vacation to the end of the big league bullpen.

 

I'm fine with giving him another shot, but the guy just baffles me. He dominates in AAA but then gets shelled outing after outing in the majors. How many more chances do we give this guy to prove himself?

 

Hill's had only 19.1 IP (4 starts) at the big leagues this season. Given how well he's performed at AAA, I think it's only fair he gets a very extended look in the big leagues.

 

My concern is that Guzman, who has been more productive than Hill at the major league level (yes I know it is a small sample size) is losing starts to this guy who batters have just teed off of nearly every time he has started.

 

Guzman is also younger and higher up the prospect totem pole. He'll have his chances.

[Drew Doughty]

Comparing Rich Hill (26-year old rookie) to Felix Hernandez (a 19-year old rookie) is hardly fair. Besides, after Hernandez's first 44 innings he had a 1.84 ERA and a .176 BAA so the comparison really doesn't work.

 

My concern is that Guzman, who has been more productive than Hill at the major league level (yes I know it is a small sample size) is losing starts to this guy who batters have just teed off of nearly every time he has started.

 

it's not really different as they're both rookies and they've both had moments where they've really struggled. Hernandez is obviously much more highly touted (as in he was the best pitching prospect in baseball before he got the call), but the point remains. you need more than 43 innings to get any kind of a read on a guy. it's really not fair that he's been given the boot whenever he struggles too. he needs to feel secure. he has nothing left to prove at AAA. gooz is great, i think he's actually going to be better, but he hasn't dominated AAA like Hill has. Give Hill 5-10 starts. best case scenario, he figures it out and he's part of the rotation, worst case is that he fails on a team that is already pretty much done this year.

[oldstyle81]

does anyone know where i can get offical tackle twill jersey numbers and letters. i want to get the the prior and 22 taken off my home jersey and put Santo on it.

[soccer10k]

Why don't we just shut Prior down for the rest of the year so he can take as long as he wants to recover and let Hill start for the remainder of the year. Even if he gets shelled, just let him pitch for the rest of the year. Either he works his way though it and garners consideration for a starting spot next year, or he hit hard and we narrow down our potential options for starters next year. Either way, it gives the Cubs something to bank on.

[abuck1220]

Why does Hill get the start? Is Guzman part of the discussion? I know Hill is pitching well in the minors again, but we have seen this before. In his last few outings with the Cubs Guzman showed that he can get guys out.

 

What more does Rich Hill have to prove at AAA? Let's see if he can make adjustments at the big league level.

 

Also, Guzman is still getting his arm strengthened after getting an 18-day vacation to the end of the big league bullpen.

 

I'm fine with giving him another shot, but the guy just baffles me. He dominates in AAA but then gets shelled outing after outing in the majors. How many more chances do we give this guy to prove himself?

 

ugh, i know. what's it been, 150 starts? enough already, you know?

[Banedon]

Why does Hill get the start? Is Guzman part of the discussion? I know Hill is pitching well in the minors again, but we have seen this before. In his last few outings with the Cubs Guzman showed that he can get guys out.

 

What more does Rich Hill have to prove at AAA? Let's see if he can make adjustments at the big league level.

 

Also, Guzman is still getting his arm strengthened after getting an 18-day vacation to the end of the big league bullpen.

 

I'm fine with giving him another shot, but the guy just baffles me. He dominates in AAA but then gets shelled outing after outing in the majors. How many more chances do we give this guy to prove himself?

 

ugh, i know. what's it been, 150 starts? enough already, you know?

 

It's not like Glendon Rusch who really deserves a chance to work through his struggles.