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[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I too am optimistic about the Cowboys defense this year.

[dew1679666265]

Apparently, Lendale White is getting along well with his new teammates.

 

Link

 

Great. We already wasted an early first rounder last year on a punk (Pacman Jones) return man. I was afraid when we took LenDale something like this would happen. Oh well, at least there will be a little action this season as we take our learning curve to a 4-12 season again. At least we've got Vince Young. It'll be fun to watch him around the second half of the year.

 

Is Vince Young the starter this year?

 

He probably won't open the season as the starter, Billy Volek is a pretty good QB and has a solid base in that offense. Young probably will become the starter at some point but he still has several adjustments he needs to make to his game to adapt it to the pro level.

 

That's not surprising at all. I didn't think Young would be named the starter right away especially with Volek there who, as you said, is a decent quarterback.

 

Billy is the starter for opening day, that's all that's been announced for sure. Vince, as texascub said, has some stuff to learn in order to play at the NFL level. Also, Jeff Fisher has a history of bringing players along slowly (Steve McNair was drafted in '95 and didn't start full time till '97) so I think he'll take that route with Vince, just not that dramatic. From everthing I've heard I suspect Vince will get a large amount of playing time around the second half of the season and start full time next season. Volek, in my opinion, is more than serviceable and could start for a few teams. McNair was better, but not significantly anymore.

 

edit: BTW, Vince looked very solid in his first preseason game tonight. This kid will be a stud, very comparable to a young Steve McNair.

Edited August 13, 2006 by dew

[dew1679666265]

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- New Orleans quarterback Adrian McPherson went to the locker room early in the third quarter after a golf cart ridden by the Titans' mascot hit him at the end of halftime Saturday night.

 

 

I couldn't help but laugh at this.

 

If we sent out a hitman to make the preseason game easier then we sent him out against the wrong quarterback. :) That is quite funny though.

[dew1679666265]

If Ellis can adapt to the OLB spot in the 3-4, I think he and Ware will put some hurting on the QB's across the league.

 

Junior Glymph has actually looked really good tonight as well. He's had 2 sacks and 2FF's that I've caught. Ellis did a much better job than I was expecting against the pass and when covering the QB when he rolled out of the pocket. I think the move will work pretty good, but our LB's are pretty stacked right now. Ellis, James, Shanle, and Ware got the start but we've also got Carpenter, Ayodele, Singleton, and Burnett as well. I really don't care about the offense, this defense is getting me jacked up already.

 

I think ya'll are going to like Kevin Burnett. At Tennessee, he was the best player on some very solid defenses. He plays very hard and was beginning to get some comparisons to perhaps the greatest linebacker to ever play at Tennessee, Al Wilson. While I don't think he'll ever get that good, I think he'll be a starter for ya'll for a very long time.

[texascub]

If Ellis can adapt to the OLB spot in the 3-4, I think he and Ware will put some hurting on the QB's across the league.

 

Junior Glymph has actually looked really good tonight as well. He's had 2 sacks and 2FF's that I've caught. Ellis did a much better job than I was expecting against the pass and when covering the QB when he rolled out of the pocket. I think the move will work pretty good, but our LB's are pretty stacked right now. Ellis, James, Shanle, and Ware got the start but we've also got Carpenter, Ayodele, Singleton, and Burnett as well. I really don't care about the offense, this defense is getting me jacked up already.

 

I think ya'll are going to like Kevin Burnett. At Tennessee, he was the best player on some very solid defenses. He plays very hard and was beginning to get some comparisons to perhaps the greatest linebacker to ever play at Tennessee, Al Wilson. While I don't think he'll ever get that good, I think he'll be a starter for ya'll for a very long time.

 

He's flashed quite a bit of skill, but a hip injury early in the season didn't help and then he tore his ACL near the end of his season. Right now he's stuck behind Ware at the ROLB (weak side). I think that Carpenter will ultimately affect what happens with Burnett. Ware and James are locks at ROLB and LILB respectively; Carpenter has been working at both RILB and LOLB. I believe that eventually Carpenter will be the starter at LOLB, which leaves Burnett to battle with Ayodele at RILB. Unfortunately Burnett will probably be the odd man out for right now with both Singleton and Ellis at LOLB, Ayodele with the rather large FA contract, and Carpenter as a mid-first rounder this past year. It really is too bad, but Bill does like his style of play and will find a spot for him somewhere.

[dew1679666265]

If Ellis can adapt to the OLB spot in the 3-4, I think he and Ware will put some hurting on the QB's across the league.

 

Junior Glymph has actually looked really good tonight as well. He's had 2 sacks and 2FF's that I've caught. Ellis did a much better job than I was expecting against the pass and when covering the QB when he rolled out of the pocket. I think the move will work pretty good, but our LB's are pretty stacked right now. Ellis, James, Shanle, and Ware got the start but we've also got Carpenter, Ayodele, Singleton, and Burnett as well. I really don't care about the offense, this defense is getting me jacked up already.

 

I think ya'll are going to like Kevin Burnett. At Tennessee, he was the best player on some very solid defenses. He plays very hard and was beginning to get some comparisons to perhaps the greatest linebacker to ever play at Tennessee, Al Wilson. While I don't think he'll ever get that good, I think he'll be a starter for ya'll for a very long time.

 

He's flashed quite a bit of skill, but a hip injury early in the season didn't help and then he tore his ACL near the end of his season. Right now he's stuck behind Ware at the ROLB (weak side). I think that Carpenter will ultimately affect what happens with Burnett. Ware and James are locks at ROLB and LILB respectively; Carpenter has been working at both RILB and LOLB. I believe that eventually Carpenter will be the starter at LOLB, which leaves Burnett to battle with Ayodele at RILB. Unfortunately Burnett will probably be the odd man out for right now with both Singleton and Ellis at LOLB, Ayodele with the rather large FA contract, and Carpenter as a mid-first rounder this past year. It really is too bad, but Bill does like his style of play and will find a spot for him somewhere.

 

Honestly, I think Ayodele is solid but possibly as soon as next season the only thing keeping Burnett behind Ayodele would be Ayodele's big contract. I'm hoping ya'll can find a spot for him like you did with that other former Vol, Jason Witten (he seemed to turn out well :) )

[Andy]

If Ellis can adapt to the OLB spot in the 3-4, I think he and Ware will put some hurting on the QB's across the league.

 

Junior Glymph has actually looked really good tonight as well. He's had 2 sacks and 2FF's that I've caught. Ellis did a much better job than I was expecting against the pass and when covering the QB when he rolled out of the pocket. I think the move will work pretty good, but our LB's are pretty stacked right now. Ellis, James, Shanle, and Ware got the start but we've also got Carpenter, Ayodele, Singleton, and Burnett as well. I really don't care about the offense, this defense is getting me jacked up already.

 

I think ya'll are going to like Kevin Burnett. At Tennessee, he was the best player on some very solid defenses. He plays very hard and was beginning to get some comparisons to perhaps the greatest linebacker to ever play at Tennessee, Al Wilson. While I don't think he'll ever get that good, I think he'll be a starter for ya'll for a very long time.

I look forward to seeing what BSU alum Justin Beriault can do for you guys too, as Parcells had him on track to play a lot of minutes at SS before he suffered a season ending injury last year.

[Andy]

Panthers won tonight doing what they do best, giving up only 74 yards to Buffalo in the first half and the defense scoring as many TDs as the Bills did (on a Kenny Lucas INT). About what I expected as the Carolina defense looks as promising as it ever has.

[texascub]

If Ellis can adapt to the OLB spot in the 3-4, I think he and Ware will put some hurting on the QB's across the league.

 

Junior Glymph has actually looked really good tonight as well. He's had 2 sacks and 2FF's that I've caught. Ellis did a much better job than I was expecting against the pass and when covering the QB when he rolled out of the pocket. I think the move will work pretty good, but our LB's are pretty stacked right now. Ellis, James, Shanle, and Ware got the start but we've also got Carpenter, Ayodele, Singleton, and Burnett as well. I really don't care about the offense, this defense is getting me jacked up already.

 

I think ya'll are going to like Kevin Burnett. At Tennessee, he was the best player on some very solid defenses. He plays very hard and was beginning to get some comparisons to perhaps the greatest linebacker to ever play at Tennessee, Al Wilson. While I don't think he'll ever get that good, I think he'll be a starter for ya'll for a very long time.

I look forward to seeing what BSU alum Justin Beriault can do for you guys too, as Parcells had him on track to play a lot of minutes at SS before he suffered a season ending injury last year.

 

He hasn't been playing lately. He had microfracture surgery in the offseason, and he also had some sort of surgery to shorten his fibula I believe so that when he moves his knee it wears on a different part now. Apparently there's no cartilage left in his knee and it was swelling up badly, and this is a surgery commonly used to put off a complete knee replacement. He had been doing alright in camp though he suffered a concussion about a week ago and hasn't been back to practice since. There was some speculation that he knee wasn't responding well, but Parcells has said that his knee is doing fine.

 

Also, no matter what Beriault probably wouldn't have played much last year. Roy is the SS and he rarely misses a snap.

[rawaction]

Broncos lost their first preseason game of the year, but the positives are Jay Cutler looked awesome (16/22 for almost 200 yards), and this new guy who apparently was working at a subway before the season caught 72 yards and a TD

 

Only a matter of time til Cutler beats out the horrible, Jake Plummer.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

Broncos lost their first preseason game of the year, but the positives are Jay Cutler looked awesome (16/22 for almost 200 yards), and this new guy who apparently was working at a subway before the season caught 72 yards and a TD

 

Only a matter of time til Cutler beats out the horrible, Jake Plummer.

 

Yep.

[texascub]

ndistops, I know you were looking forward to seeing what Beriault could do for the Cowboys this season but it now looks like he's going to retire. Apparently Parcells is telling him to retire and not let anyone talk him out of it because his knee just isn't responding very well.

[Jazz]

Broncos lost their first preseason game of the year, but the positives are Jay Cutler looked awesome (16/22 for almost 200 yards), and this new guy who apparently was working at a subway before the season caught 72 yards and a TD

 

Only a matter of time til Cutler beats out the horrible, Jake Plummer.

 

34-11 in 3 years with a 90% Passer Rating sure is horrible huh.

[Soul]

Nice start Viking fans.

 

 

BWAHAHAHAH :twisted:

[Butterscup1679666578]

Leinart finally signs:

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2549668

[texascub]

Leinart finally signs:

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2549668

 

After Green's comments earlier today, I wonder what kind of reception he'll give Leinart?

[Andy]

ndistops, I know you were looking forward to seeing what Beriault could do for the Cowboys this season but it now looks like he's going to retire. Apparently Parcells is telling him to retire and not let anyone talk him out of it because his knee just isn't responding very well.

That's too bad :( He was so good for us in the one season I got to see him play too. A shame to see a promising career cut down.

[rawaction]

Broncos lost their first preseason game of the year, but the positives are Jay Cutler looked awesome (16/22 for almost 200 yards), and this new guy who apparently was working at a subway before the season caught 72 yards and a TD

 

Only a matter of time til Cutler beats out the horrible, Jake Plummer.

 

34-11 in 3 years with a 90% Passer Rating sure is horrible huh.

 

What does a 90% passer rating mean? I've honestly heard of or seen that stat before. 34-11 just means he's had good teams. Kyle Orton was what? 11-3?

[Jazz]

Broncos lost their first preseason game of the year, but the positives are Jay Cutler looked awesome (16/22 for almost 200 yards), and this new guy who apparently was working at a subway before the season caught 72 yards and a TD

 

Only a matter of time til Cutler beats out the horrible, Jake Plummer.

 

34-11 in 3 years with a 90% Passer Rating sure is horrible huh.

 

What does a 90% passer rating mean? I've honestly heard of or seen that stat before. 34-11 just means he's had good teams. Kyle Orton was what? 11-3?

 

the addition of the % was a goof on my part, but if you're questiniong the actual term passer rating

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passer_rating

 

You can't be considered horrible when you lead your team to 3 straight playoffs, regardless of the result in sed playoffs.

[dew1679666265]

Leinart finally signs:

 

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=2549668

 

After Green's comments earlier today, I wonder what kind of reception he'll give Leinart?

 

Probably a nice, warm spot on the bench for the first few games. I wouldn't be surprised if Leinart sits out long enough to learn the offense, etc. which could carry well into the regular season.

[Butterscup1679666578]

Wow, I didn't think the Vikings' uniforms could get any uglier, until I just saw their new ones.

[soccer10k]

Broncos lost their first preseason game of the year, but the positives are Jay Cutler looked awesome (16/22 for almost 200 yards), and this new guy who apparently was working at a subway before the season caught 72 yards and a TD

 

Only a matter of time til Cutler beats out the horrible, Jake Plummer.

 

34-11 in 3 years with a 90% Passer Rating sure is horrible huh.

 

What does a 90% passer rating mean? I've honestly heard of or seen that stat before. 34-11 just means he's had good teams. Kyle Orton was what? 11-3?

 

the addition of the % was a goof on my part, but if you're questiniong the actual term passer rating

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passer_rating

 

You can't be considered horrible when you lead your team to 3 straight playoffs, regardless of the result in sed playoffs.

 

Of course. The reason the Broncos have made the playoffs 3 straight years couldn't be due to the fact that they have averaged the 2nd, 4th, and 2nd most rushing yards per game in 2003-2005 could it?

[Jazz]

Broncos lost their first preseason game of the year, but the positives are Jay Cutler looked awesome (16/22 for almost 200 yards), and this new guy who apparently was working at a subway before the season caught 72 yards and a TD

 

Only a matter of time til Cutler beats out the horrible, Jake Plummer.

 

34-11 in 3 years with a 90% Passer Rating sure is horrible huh.

 

What does a 90% passer rating mean? I've honestly heard of or seen that stat before. 34-11 just means he's had good teams. Kyle Orton was what? 11-3?

 

the addition of the % was a goof on my part, but if you're questiniong the actual term passer rating

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passer_rating

 

You can't be considered horrible when you lead your team to 3 straight playoffs, regardless of the result in sed playoffs.

 

Of course. The reason the Broncos have made the playoffs 3 straight years couldn't be due to the fact that they have averaged the 2nd, 4th, and 2nd most rushing yards per game in 2003-2005 could it?

 

but are you still trying to push plummer = horrible because you should know that with someone like kordell stewart under center, they would not have made any playoff berths.

 

Plummer is a decent, and at best above average QB at the moment., and he looks to improve for the 4th straight time under shannahan.

[CuseCubFan69]

So instead of doing pushups in his driveway TO is now just riding a bike. Good luck Billy boy.

[Soul]

Wow, I didn't think the Vikings' uniforms could get any uglier, until I just saw their new ones.

 

I know. Between those new unis, and the refs new unis, I had to check myself to make sure the Raiders weren't playing an exhibition against an Arena League team------in an Arena League stadium, no less.