Trading Prior in the offseason

[TXCubsFan]

Assuming Prior regains his form by the end of the season, should the Cubs consider trading him and playing for 2008? The Cubs have some huge holes. They need to rebuild two-thirds of their outfield (and get a platoon partner for Jacque) as well as a finding a SS/2B to complement Ronny. I sense neither Pie nor Patterson will be ready to start at Wrigley until the second half of 2007 at best.

 

For instance, would trading Prior to the Diamondbacks for Drew and Quentin be worthwhile? Given all the young pitching that will be ready by mid-season 2007 (Marshall, Marmol, Guzman, Gallagher, and Wells) and the Cubs' ability to nuture that pitching, perhaps getting some top-flight position prospects for Prior would be best for him and the Cubs.

 

Thoughts?

[srbin84]

No way Prior pitches well enough to get those kind of returns. If he had an ERA in the 1's, maybe 2's for the rest of year, I think you could get a very nice return for him. Otherwise, you hope he stays healthy and try to plug a hole on your team with a decent player in return for him and be thankful for it.

[CuseCubFan69]

I'm sure Hendry can get some 280/310 type hitter for Prior.

[Outshined_One]

I'm sure Hendry can get some 280/310 type hitter for Prior.

 

Who is currently in High A.

[Guest]

I'm sure Hendry can get some 280/310 type hitter for Prior.

 

Who is currently in High A.

And 25 years old.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I'm sure Hendry can get some 280/310 type hitter for Prior.

 

Who is currently in High A.

And 25 years old.

 

Repeating the level for the third year.

[sherwood921]

I'm sure Hendry can get some 280/310 type hitter for Prior.

 

Who is currently in High A.

And 25 years old.

 

Repeating the level for the third year.

 

But he's very aggressive.

[Outshined_One]

I'm sure Hendry can get some 280/310 type hitter for Prior.

 

Who is currently in High A.

And 25 years old.

 

Repeating the level for the third year.

 

But he's very aggressive.

 

And toolsy.

[BigbadB]

And fast.

[Balsa]

But with no plate discipline.

[Flames24Rulz]

But can catch the ball.

[BigbadB]

And is a good clubhouse guy.

[Sarcastic]

Trading Prior for a so-so player based on his first start back. No, that's not a knee jerk reaction at all, is it?

 

I don't care if he sucked today, he is worth a hell of a lot more than some mediocre stop gap. His trade value is going to much lower than his real value going into 2007, so why trade him?

 

We might as well keep him until he becomes a free agent. If he can't put up a healthy season by then, I'll be ready to get rid of him. Otherwise, there's no good reason.

[BigbadB]

Trading Prior for a so-so player based on his first start back. No, that's not a knee jerk reaction at all, is it?

 

I don't care if he sucked today, he is worth a hell of a lot more than some mediocre stop gap. His trade value is going to much lower than his real value going into 2007, so why trade him?

 

We might as well keep him until he becomes a free agent. If he can't put up a healthy season by then, I'll be ready to get rid of him. Otherwise, there's no good reason.

 

Agreed. But, with Jim Hendry at the controls, we should all be very scared.

[YearofDaCubs]

Trading Prior for a so-so player based on his first start back. No, that's not a knee jerk reaction at all, is it?

 

I don't care if he sucked today, he is worth a hell of a lot more than some mediocre stop gap. His trade value is going to much lower than his real value going into 2007, so why trade him?

 

We might as well keep him until he becomes a free agent. If he can't put up a healthy season by then, I'll be ready to get rid of him. Otherwise, there's no good reason.

 

Agreed. But, with Jim Hendry at the controls, we should all be very scared.

I'm with you there. The simple fact that Hendry hasn't done squat yet is disturbing. Hendry is the Isiah Thomas of MLB general managing.

[jiml60]

Assuming Prior regains his form by the end of the season, should the Cubs consider trading him and playing for 2008? The Cubs have some huge holes. They need to rebuild two-thirds of their outfield (and get a platoon partner for Jacque) as well as a finding a SS/2B to complement Ronny. I sense neither Pie nor Patterson will be ready to start at Wrigley until the second half of 2007 at best.

 

For instance, would trading Prior to the Diamondbacks for Drew and Quentin be worthwhile? Given all the young pitching that will be ready by mid-season 2007 (Marshall, Marmol, Guzman, Gallagher, and Wells) and the Cubs' ability to nuture that pitching, perhaps getting some top-flight position prospects for Prior would be best for him and the Cubs.

 

Thoughts?

 

What ability? What has Rothschild done in his time here that would give us any hope that the young pitching will ever reach their potential?

[YearofDaCubs]

Assuming Prior regains his form by the end of the season, should the Cubs consider trading him and playing for 2008? The Cubs have some huge holes. They need to rebuild two-thirds of their outfield (and get a platoon partner for Jacque) as well as a finding a SS/2B to complement Ronny. I sense neither Pie nor Patterson will be ready to start at Wrigley until the second half of 2007 at best.

 

For instance, would trading Prior to the Diamondbacks for Drew and Quentin be worthwhile? Given all the young pitching that will be ready by mid-season 2007 (Marshall, Marmol, Guzman, Gallagher, and Wells) and the Cubs' ability to nuture that pitching, perhaps getting some top-flight position prospects for Prior would be best for him and the Cubs.

 

Thoughts?

 

What ability? What has Rothschild done in his time here that would give us any hope that the young pitching will ever reach their potential?

Rothschild and Baker have the ability to absolutely end a pitchers' career in a short amount of time. That's the only ability I see.

[NCCubFan]

Assuming Prior regains his form by the end of the season, should the Cubs consider trading him and playing for 2008?

Playing for 2008 before 2007 even begins is completely unacceptable in my opinion. As many bad years as the Cubs have had, and with all the disappointment following the promise of 2003, writing off yet another year cannot be tolerated. The Cubs must somehow find a way to contend next year. We deserve much better than still more wait till next year's.

[YearofDaCubs]

Assuming Prior regains his form by the end of the season, should the Cubs consider trading him and playing for 2008?

Playing for 2008 before 2007 even begins is completely unacceptable in my opinion. As many bad years as the Cubs have had, and with all the disappointment following the promise of 2003, writing off yet another year cannot be tolerated. The Cubs must somehow find a way to contend next year. We deserve much better than still more wait till next year's.

Sadly, with Prior and Wood w/ their problems and the terrible GMing by Hendry, I don't see us going anywhere for a long time. Hendry has sunk the ship and unfortunately 2003 was a long time ago.

[imb]

I wouldnt be surprised if Hendry traded Prior. If Marmol and Marshall look decent for the rest of the year and dont break down, he may be willing to turn over the pitching rotation to the new jacks.

[soccer10k]

Trading Prior for a so-so player based on his first start back. No, that's not a knee jerk reaction at all, is it?

 

I don't care if he sucked today, he is worth a hell of a lot more than some mediocre stop gap. His trade value is going to much lower than his real value going into 2007, so why trade him?

 

We might as well keep him until he becomes a free agent. If he can't put up a healthy season by then, I'll be ready to get rid of him. Otherwise, there's no good reason.

 

Agreed. But, with Jim Hendry at the controls, we should all be very scared.

 

I don't think we have to worry about Hendry trading Prior because he doesn't appear willing to trade the players he likes. Prior's 2003 is the only thing weighing on Hendry's mind.

[soccer10k]

Assuming Prior regains his form by the end of the season, should the Cubs consider trading him and playing for 2008?

Playing for 2008 before 2007 even begins is completely unacceptable in my opinion. As many bad years as the Cubs have had, and with all the disappointment following the promise of 2003, writing off yet another year cannot be tolerated. The Cubs must somehow find a way to contend next year. We deserve much better than still more wait till next year's.

 

I couldn't agree with you more. Numerous teams have made the worst-to-first jump before if the right moves are made. Please save me the "Hendry's an idiot and won't make the right moves" crap because I don't want to hear it. Teams can have a complete turnaroung. In 2002 the Cubs finished 67-95 and we all know how they did in 2003. Same goes for 1997 (68-94) followed by 1998.

[NCCubFan]

I couldn't agree with you more. Numerous teams have made the worst-to-first jump before if the right moves are made. Please save me the "Hendry's an idiot and won't make the right moves" crap because I don't want to hear it. Teams can have a complete turnaroung. In 2002 the Cubs finished 67-95 and we all know how they did in 2003. Same goes for 1997 (68-94) followed by 1998.

The classic examples are the 1991 Braves and Twins. I think that's the only time in baseball history when both World Series teams finished last the previous season.

[bleedcubbieblue]

I couldn't agree with you more. Numerous teams have made the worst-to-first jump before if the right moves are made. Please save me the "Hendry's an idiot and won't make the right moves" crap because I don't want to hear it. Teams can have a complete turnaroung. In 2002 the Cubs finished 67-95 and we all know how they did in 2003. Same goes for 1997 (68-94) followed by 1998.

The classic examples are the 1991 Braves and Twins. I think that's the only time in baseball history when both World Series teams finished last the previous season.

 

To point out the obvious, neither of those 2 team names are spelled C-U-B-S. In other words, I am not holding out hope that this will be our case next season, but I guess one can always dream.

 

BCB

[Backtobanks]

Assuming Prior regains his form by the end of the season, should the Cubs consider trading him and playing for 2008?

Playing for 2008 before 2007 even begins is completely unacceptable in my opinion. As many bad years as the Cubs have had, and with all the disappointment following the promise of 2003, writing off yet another year cannot be tolerated. The Cubs must somehow find a way to contend next year. We deserve much better than still more wait till next year's.

 

I couldn't agree with you more. Numerous teams have made the worst-to-first jump before if the right moves are made. Please save me the "Hendry's an idiot and won't make the right moves" crap because I don't want to hear it. Teams can have a complete turnaroung. In 2002 the Cubs finished 67-95 and we all know how they did in 2003. Same goes for 1997 (68-94) followed by 1998.

 

I agree too. All of this "White Flag" talk means 2-3 more years of rebuilding while the Sox are contending. There's no way the Tribune is going to let the Sox take over the city while the Cubs wait for prospects to mature. As pitiful as they are, I do think they would be in contention without the injuries to Lee, Wood, and Prior, especially with the injury to Pujols. What the Cubs need is one blockbuster deal (Cabrera?), some health for a change, and continued progress by the likes of Marshall, Guzman, Marmol, and Hill (the progress might be needed to showcase them for trade purposes). The "Cabrera" thread in transactions had the suggestion of trading Prior to Dodgers, DBacks, or Angels (prospect rich teams), with their prospects going to the Marlins, and Cabrera coming to the Cubs. I can't believe a lineup with Cabrera, Lee, Ramirez, and Barrett wouldn't be contending for the NL central.