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First of all, I'm tired of hearing "Kerry's a wuss" or "Prior's a baby". You know what? I want to see YOU go out there and get surgery on your shoulder or get him by a line drive and then go out and pitch. These guys are major league players, they didn't get here by whining and being weak. I wanna see YOU rehab for 6 months. That takes dedication, it takes guts, and it takes class. Which is more than I can say for those who call Prior or Wood "soft" over the faceless internet.

 

sure. pay me 12 million and I'll rehab for 6 months in arizona

 

Amen. Nurse an injury for 10 mill a year? Sign me up.

 

Serious question though...are there any other teams out there with these types of problems with pitchers?

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So if I may summarize...

 

Reports of additional soreness after his start on Thursday and the possibility that they may give him additional time to rest can lead us to conclude one or more of the following:

 

a) he's going on the DL

 

b) his season is over

 

c) his career is over

 

d) he's a wimp

 

e) he only wants to collect his paycheck and doesn't mind if he never pitches again

 

 

Seems logical to me.

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So if I may summarize...

 

Reports of additional soreness after his start on Thursday and the possibility that they may give him additional time to rest can lead us to conclude one or more of the following:

 

a) he's going on the DL

 

b) his season is over

 

c) his career is over

 

d) he's a wimp

 

e) he only wants to collect his paycheck and doesn't mind if he never pitches again

 

 

Seems logical to me.

 

c) his career (with the Cubs) is (hopefully) over

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Does anyone think there are some pitchers out there that don't mention their soreness and continue on?

 

Didn't Oswalt have something like that happen?

 

I just don't think there is an end in sight to Wood's continual arm/shoulder/back (whatever) problems and we need to deal him away while we can if it's not already too late.

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I almost wish that Wood would come back healthy and pitches well for a little while so we can try to trade him before the deadline and at least get something for him.
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I almost wish that Wood would come back healthy and pitches well for a little while so we can try to trade him before the deadline and at least get something for him.

 

As opposed to what? Wishing he wouldn't come back healthy and pitch well?

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I almost wish that Wood would come back healthy and pitches well for a little while so we can try to trade him before the deadline and at least get something for him.

 

As opposed to what? Wishing he wouldn't come back healthy and pitch well?

 

As opposed to having him just leave without the Cubs being able to at least try to get something for him. If he pitches poorly he hurts us because the Cubs will lose and nobody will want to trade for him.

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I almost wish that Wood would come back healthy and pitches well for a little while so we can try to trade him before the deadline and at least get something for him.

 

As opposed to what? Wishing he wouldn't come back healthy and pitch well?

 

As opposed to having him just leave without the Cubs being able to at least try to get something for him. If he pitches poorly he hurts us because the Cubs will lose and nobody will want to trade for him.

 

Well, right. I'm just saying I don't understand you "almost" wanting him to come back healtlhy and do well. Even if it didn't raise his trade value, you'd presumably want him to do well because that would mean the Cubs were doing well (at least in those games).

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From the Chicago Sun-Times:

 

Kerry Wood bristled Sunday when asked about the possibility that he wouldn't start as scheduled Tuesday at Florida.

 

Even though Cubs manager Dusty Baker and pitching coach Larry Rothschild were the ones who said the chance existed that Wood could be scratched because of right shoulder and total body soreness, Wood gave that news a quick brushoff.

 

``Who doesn't get sore between starts?'' Wood said. ``The recovery wasn't quite as quick as it has been the last few starts, but you get sore between starts and that's the way it is. I expect to be fine. I'm planning to make my start on Tuesday.''

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On the one hand, that's awesome and what you hope to hear.

 

On the other hand, it raises concerning questions about the team's coaches and management.

 

Shocker, I know.

 

I understand the concern, but if it's going to "bristle" your pitcher, why even bother announcing it? Talk it over with Wood in private and decide for sure before making a statement. It makes everyone look bad.

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Someone called this back in the Wood thread about his first start....

I called something similar, that he'd leave with "arm soreness" and go on the DL again. But the Cubs decided to wait two days before fulfilling my prediction...

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I almost wish that Wood would come back healthy and pitches well for a little while so we can try to trade him before the deadline and at least get something for him.

 

As opposed to what? Wishing he wouldn't come back healthy and pitch well?

 

As opposed to having him just leave without the Cubs being able to at least try to get something for him. If he pitches poorly he hurts us because the Cubs will lose and nobody will want to trade for him.

 

Well, we got a first round pick if he leaves, and we also don't have to possibly owe someone a whole lotta money.

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kerry doesn't come across as the sharpest knife, but he's a heckuva competitor. hopefully, he can bounce back, but i really doubt he'll ever be close to the dominant kerry wood from a few years ago.
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From the Chicago Sun-Times:

 

Kerry Wood bristled Sunday when asked about the possibility that he wouldn't start as scheduled Tuesday at Florida.

 

Even though Cubs manager Dusty Baker and pitching coach Larry Rothschild were the ones who said the chance existed that Wood could be scratched because of right shoulder and total body soreness, Wood gave that news a quick brushoff.

 

``Who doesn't get sore between starts?'' Wood said. ``The recovery wasn't quite as quick as it has been the last few starts, but you get sore between starts and that's the way it is. I expect to be fine. I'm planning to make my start on Tuesday.''

 

And everyone that jumped on him or being a wimp should now step up and apologize. (At least until he misses his next start).

 

I love how certain people just talk crap without getting all the details. It's pretty clear that anyone who has an OUNCE of reasoning capability (with the information given so far) would realize that

 

1) Kerry hasn't had spring training really, in that he's pitched 1 rookie league game and 2 re-hab starts, so his recovery time might not be what it should.

 

2) All pitchers get SORE, and if he needs to skip one day, then he needs to skip one day until he's had 4 or 5 starts under his belt (since he missed ST).

 

Instead people jump to conclusions and look like idiots with their vitriol, when they didn't have a clue as to what was going on.

 

Clearly, Woody doesn't want to miss a game, nor does he THINK he's going to miss the game. People should wait until actual facts come through before criticizing people.

 

But that would be too rational for some.

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He had major surgery to repair his labrum and finally made his season debut as a pitcher. I had surgery on my labrum about 2 weeks after Kerry and made my softball debut the other night as a middle infielder. After playing catch to warm up and throwing a few soft tosses during the game, my shoulder was sore as hell Thursday, Friday, and part of Saturday. Kerry was likely feeling a lot of the same feelings. I'm fine now, and penciled in to play SS tonight.

 

The moral to my story is, he isn't a wuss or a baby or soft. He'll be fine.

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He had major surgery to repair his labrum and finally made his season debut as a pitcher. I had surgery on my labrum about 2 weeks after Kerry and made my softball debut the other night as a middle infielder. After playing catch to warm up and throwing a few soft tosses during the game, my shoulder was sore as hell Thursday, Friday, and part of Saturday. Kerry was likely feeling a lot of the same feelings. I'm fine now, and penciled in to play SS tonight.

 

The moral to my story is, he isn't a wuss or a baby or soft. He'll be fine.

 

Maybe you're a wuss too!! :D

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He had major surgery to repair his labrum and finally made his season debut as a pitcher. I had surgery on my labrum about 2 weeks after Kerry and made my softball debut the other night as a middle infielder. After playing catch to warm up and throwing a few soft tosses during the game, my shoulder was sore as hell Thursday, Friday, and part of Saturday. Kerry was likely feeling a lot of the same feelings. I'm fine now, and penciled in to play SS tonight.

 

The moral to my story is, he isn't a wuss or a baby or soft. He'll be fine.

 

Maybe you're a wuss too!! :D

 

:twisted:

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Why doesn't anybody ever consider the possibility that Wood and/or Prior just might have weak bodies. It's nothing to do with being a wuss, but some people just injure easier, and others may go through a lifetime with no major injuries of any kind. That's just basic anatomy.
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Why doesn't anybody ever consider the possibility that Wood and/or Prior just might have weak bodies. It's nothing to do with being a wuss, but some people just injure easier, and others may go through a lifetime with no major injuries of any kind. That's just basic anatomy.

 

Pretty sure it's been considered/discussed ad nauseum on this board. Some people believe that's the case. Some (like myself) don't. Difference of opinion on a topic that can't be factually proven. Not much more to be said on the topic IMO.

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Why doesn't anybody ever consider the possibility that Wood and/or Prior just might have weak bodies. It's nothing to do with being a wuss, but some people just injure easier, and others may go through a lifetime with no major injuries of any kind. That's just basic anatomy.

 

It's possible. It's also possible that his arm is not in top top shape following Labrum Surgery and that excessive soreness might last a little bit longer than normal.

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I think Kerry's new nickname should be "Easy Money"

 

I think Kerry should be forced to donate all of his 2006 salary to NSBB.

 

With 99.9% of it going to me.

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I think Kerry's new nickname should be "Easy Money"

 

What about Prior? He's not even recovering from surgery, half the people don't know why hes injured, and he hasn't even pitched this year yet.

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I think Kerry's new nickname should be "Easy Money"

 

What about Prior? He's not even recovering from surgery, half the people don't know why hes injured, and he hasn't even pitched this year yet.

 

Mark Prior must be joining Dick Cheney in those undisclosed bunker locations. Its really ridiculous. At this point he probably won't play before Lee does.

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