Jacque Jones: Can We Trade him for Corey Patterson?

[USSoccer]

Especially when he's currently out performing ARam, who is making a hell of a lot more money and seems to be getting a pass on this.

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He gets a pass because since he's been a Cub he's been really, really good. He's built up enough benefit of doubt.

 

Jones had been bad for 3 years, and hasn't been good with us.

[LoneStarCubFan]

Especially when he's currently out performing ARam, who is making a hell of a lot more money and seems to be getting a pass on this.

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He gets a pass because since he's been a Cub he's been really, really good. He's built up enough benefit of doubt.

 

Jones had been bad for 3 years, and hasn't been good with us.

 

So ARam carries no blame for the current funk because he's been good before? Gee, that make sense.

[goonys evil twin]

Heaping the blame for the Cubs' failures on Jacque Jones is beyond ridiculous. Acting like he done the equivalent of go on a tri-state killing spree by getting doubled off base a few times is childish at best.

 

Nobody is acting like he killed somebody.

 

But your pathetic defense of him for "getting doubled off base a few times" is laughable. Jacque Jones was a terrible signing. Jacque Jones has played very poorly for the Cubs. Jacque doesn't have any kind of positive track record with the Cubs. And Jacque whined about fan treatment from day 1. He deserves a huge share of the blame.

 

 

And trying to defend one pathetic player by citing the pathetic play of others is a terrible way to deflect negative attention from that player.

[JC]

Especially when he's currently out performing ARam, who is making a hell of a lot more money and seems to be getting a pass on this.

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He gets a pass because since he's been a Cub he's been really, really good. He's built up enough benefit of doubt.

 

Jones had been bad for 3 years, and hasn't been good with us.

 

So ARam carries no blame for the current funk because he's been good before? Gee, that make sense.

 

Either by design or accident, you are confusing disappointment with blame.

[goonys evil twin]

Especially when he's currently out performing ARam, who is making a hell of a lot more money and seems to be getting a pass on this.

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He gets a pass because since he's been a Cub he's been really, really good. He's built up enough benefit of doubt.

 

Jones had been bad for 3 years, and hasn't been good with us.

 

So ARam carries no blame for the current funk because he's been good before? Gee, that make sense.

 

No, Aramis doesn't receive the same level of anger directed at him because he's actually done some very good things in a Cubs uniform before. It makes perfect sense to anybody who is willing to look at the situation with any sort of logic. He carries plenty of blame for the Cubs bad play. But his bad play has been almost entirely with his bat. He hasn't thrown groundballs from the OF, missed cut-off man and gotten routinely picked off 2nd base. No matter how hard you try and dismiss those pick-offs as no big deal, they are a big deal. It says a lot about a player and his committment to improving when he makes the same mental mistake over and over.

[Scott G. F.]

Heaping the blame for the Cubs' failures on Jacque Jones is beyond ridiculous. Acting like he done the equivalent of go on a tri-state killing spree by getting doubled off base a few times is childish at best.

 

Nobody is acting like he killed somebody.

 

But your pathetic defense of him for "getting doubled off base a few times" is laughable. Jacque Jones was a terrible signing. Jacque Jones has played very poorly for the Cubs. Jacque doesn't have any kind of positive track record with the Cubs. And Jacque whined about fan treatment from day 1. He deserves a huge share of the blame.

 

 

And trying to defend one pathetic player by citing the pathetic play of others is a terrible way to deflect negative attention from that player.

 

 

 

So what you're saying is you don't like "JOCK JONES" then? Right?.....okay.

[LoneStarCubFan]

Heaping the blame for the Cubs' failures on Jacque Jones is beyond ridiculous. Acting like he done the equivalent of go on a tri-state killing spree by getting doubled off base a few times is childish at best.

 

Nobody is acting like he killed somebody.

 

But your pathetic defense of him for "getting doubled off base a few times" is laughable. Jacque Jones was a terrible signing. Jacque Jones has played very poorly for the Cubs. Jacque doesn't have any kind of positive track record with the Cubs. And Jacque whined about fan treatment from day 1. He deserves a huge share of the blame.

 

 

And trying to defend one pathetic player by citing the pathetic play of others is a terrible way to deflect negative attention from that player.

 

I'm sorry your life is so miserable you have to take out your frustrations on anonymous people on a message board.

 

Jacque Jones is not to blame for Jim Hendry offering him a three-year deal.

 

Jacque Jones is not to blame for The Village Idiot managing this team not being able to comprehend the fact Jones is a platoon player.

 

Jacque Jones is currently out-performing, among others, the Cubs' higher-priced third baseman despite the fact he's a platoon player playing every day.

 

Jacque Jones shares equally in the blame for the Cubs current failures. If he should be traded to Baltimore for Corey Patterson so should ARam and any number of other guys on this roster.

 

I'm sorry if I've offended your oh-so delicate sensibilities by pointing out the foolishness of your juvenile hatred of Jacque Jones.

 

And I'm sorry you're upset your white trash girlfriend was too drunk to hit him with that baseball last night.

[USSoccer]

Especially when he's currently out performing ARam, who is making a hell of a lot more money and seems to be getting a pass on this.

.

 

He gets a pass because since he's been a Cub he's been really, really good. He's built up enough benefit of doubt.

 

Jones had been bad for 3 years, and hasn't been good with us.

 

So ARam carries no blame for the current funk because he's been good before? Gee, that make sense.

 

Everyone on the team is responsible for this start. However, Aramis will very likely rebound. We have 3 years of track record to go on. Jones doesn't have anywhere near that ability or track record. Combine that with his contract, his idiotic baserunning and whining anout fans, and there you go.

[goonys evil twin]

So what you're saying is you don't like "JOCK JONES" then? Right?.....okay.

 

I don't know who JOCK JONES is.

[LoneStarCubFan]

Especially when he's currently out performing ARam, who is making a hell of a lot more money and seems to be getting a pass on this.

.

 

He gets a pass because since he's been a Cub he's been really, really good. He's built up enough benefit of doubt.

 

Jones had been bad for 3 years, and hasn't been good with us.

 

So ARam carries no blame for the current funk because he's been good before? Gee, that make sense.

 

Everyone on the team is responsible for this start. However, Aramis will very likely rebound. We have 3 years of track record to go on. Jones doesn't have anywhere near that ability or track record. Combine that with his contract, his idiotic baserunning and whining anout fans, and there you go.

 

After last night he's got every reason to complain about the fans. He's treated them better than they deserve.

 

And if you listened to the interview when he supposedly "whined" aboout the fans, you'd know he wasn't really whining. But hey, believe what you want.

[JC]

In before ban or suspension.

[goonys evil twin]

I'm sorry your life is so miserable you have to take out your frustrations on anonymous people on a message board.

 

Are you or are you not the person who tried to take credit for making me "look like an idiot" in an earlier post? Talk about taking out frustrations.

 

As for the rest of your post:

 

Why is it that everytime somebody has something to say about one player, they are told they have to say the same thing about everybody else? No, Jones isn't the only bad thing about this team. But he's certainly one of them. His defense and baserunning antics should not be tolerated, let alone defended.

[1908]

I'm sorry your life is so miserable you have to take out your frustrations on anonymous people on a message board.

 

And I'm sorry you're upset your white trash girlfriend was too drunk to hit him with that baseball last night.

Garbage like this is both unacceptable and unwelcome.

[Rerisen]

Do players get dumber when they put on a Cubs uniform? This is like the same boneheaded stuff Alou used to do. Of course then we go and ditch him and he hits .350 for the Giants and you hear nothing about the same kind of stuff he did here. :-k

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Do players get dumber when they put on a Cubs uniform?

 

Yes. Next question.

[goonys evil twin]

Do players get dumber when they put on a Cubs uniform?

 

Yes. Next question.

 

Is TO going to play in Philly again.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Do players get dumber when they put on a Cubs uniform?

 

Yes. Next question.

 

Is TO going to play in Philly again.

 

Yes, Dallas travels there week 5. Next.

[Andy]

Especially when he's currently out performing ARam, who is making a hell of a lot more money and seems to be getting a pass on this.

.

 

He gets a pass because since he's been a Cub he's been really, really good. He's built up enough benefit of doubt.

 

Jones had been bad for 3 years, and hasn't been good with us.

 

So ARam carries no blame for the current funk because he's been good before? Gee, that make sense.

 

Everyone on the team is responsible for this start. However, Aramis will very likely rebound. We have 3 years of track record to go on. Jones doesn't have anywhere near that ability or track record. Combine that with his contract, his idiotic baserunning and whining anout fans, and there you go.

 

After last night he's got every reason to complain about the fans. He's treated them better than they deserve.

 

And if you listened to the interview when he supposedly "whined" aboout the fans, you'd know he wasn't really whining. But hey, believe what you want.

He unfavorably compared Cubs fans to Twins fans on the basis that they were more loyal. He might not have been specifically complaining, but he was making an unbelievably idiotic statement. I think that is adding a lot more fuel to the fire between Jones and the RF bleachers.

[soapy]

Heaping the blame for the Cubs' failures on Jacque Jones is beyond ridiculous. Acting like he done the equivalent of go on a tri-state killing spree by getting doubled off base a few times is childish at best.

 

Especially when he's currently out performing ARam, who is making a hell of a lot more money and seems to be getting a pass on this.

 

Direct your anger at the guy who gave him a three-year deal. And the guy who isn't smart enough to platoon him.

 

Who is heaping all the blame on Jones? There's plenty of blame to go around. Jones is the topic of this discussion.

[snoodmonger]

Do players get dumber when they put on a Cubs uniform?

 

Yes. Next question.

 

Is TO going to play in Philly again.

 

Yes, Dallas travels there week 5. Next.

 

Will the Cubs ever win another World Series?

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Do players get dumber when they put on a Cubs uniform?

 

Yes. Next question.

 

Is TO going to play in Philly again.

 

Yes, Dallas travels there week 5. Next.

 

Will the Cubs ever win another World Series?

 

Yes. Sadly, not in our lifetimes.

[soccer10k]

Unless you're pouring a beer on Lenny Dykstra or Jim Edmonds, there is absolutely no excuse for throwing anything at a player.

 

The syringe getting thrown at Bonds was hilarious. The difference is that the syringe was plastic and wouldn't have hurt Barry. Throwning a ball at a player's head could seriously hurt the player. I'm not saying that throwing anything, whether hard or soft, at a player is right, but there is a difference. I do agree that there is no excuse for throwing anything at a player.

[BigbadB]

I think someone should dress up as a syringe and call himself Barry Bonds' official mascot.

 

Since he believes he is bigger than the game itself, he definitely deserves to have his own mascot.

[oldstyle81]

So Jacque has made mistakes, who hasn't? Jacque is not the one we need to blame the most. Aramis and Pierre still aren't hitting and the starting pitching with the exception of Z, hasn't showed up at all. There are other players that need to shoulder more blame than Jones.[/

 

Jock continaully is making the exact same mistake, Runners in scoring position and he gets doubled off 2nd base. you can justify it anyway you want but it dosent change the fact that you are taught in little league to make sure the ball hits the ground or know for sure it wont be caught before you run.

 

are you forgetting Maddux and Marshall? maddux isint 5-2 by not showing up

 

i dont care if you read the whole thread, comparing someone not hitting to someone continaully making the same mistake is ridicouls. i could see if he did this 3 times all year but twice in 2 weeks? stop being his apologist

 

you are right making a mistake is fine , happens to everyone, making the same mistake over and over again isint ok though, there is a time when you have to learn from your mistake.

[oldstyle81]

Dempster should not be bood after blowing that save.

 

I don't care what kind of logic for it anyone wants to throw my way.

 

i agree, its not his fault he dosent get any work because the rest of his teammates suck

 

 

the bleachers have also gotten to be really annoying, its no longer fun sitting there. the people are all [expletive] to begin with, add beer and its unbearable. 99 percent know nothing about baseball and talk out of their ass. seriosuly hearing Adam Dunn Sucks, Brian Giles sucks ect ect ect gets old really fast when they are beating us.