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Jim needs Dusty around, without dusty to blame he is next in line to go

I don't really agree with this. Dusty or not, Hendry has another 2 seasons to prove himself. It's up to him to decide whether he wants to extend Dusty and go out together in 2 years or whether he wants one more fresh start with a new manager. I think we all know the best option, but does Jim?

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said 37 games is too soon to make a change, gave examples of Houston the last 2 years and Florida in 2003.

 

I find it interesting that he referenced Florida in 2003. Yeah, I guess 37 games is too soon. I mean Florida waited a whole 38 games before they replaced Torborg. :roll:

 

I might agree that it's too early to do something if the Cubs were in every game. But, they aren't. They are embarrassingly bad. They can't hit, they can't pitch, they can't put runs on the board. It's probably not going to be "this" bad all season, but there really isn't a whole lot to get excited about.

He also mentioned Houston the last two years, when two years ago Jimy was canned and they turned things around very quickly with a new manager.

 

A sign of things to come?

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said 37 games is too soon to make a change, gave examples of Houston the last 2 years and Florida in 2003.

 

I find it interesting that he referenced Florida in 2003. Yeah, I guess 37 games is too soon. I mean Florida waited a whole 38 games before they replaced Torborg. :roll:

 

I might agree that it's too early to do something if the Cubs were in every game. But, they aren't. They are embarrassingly bad. They can't hit, they can't pitch, they can't put runs on the board. It's probably not going to be "this" bad all season, but there really isn't a whole lot to get excited about.

He also mentioned Houston the last two years, when two years ago Jimy was canned and they turned things around very quickly with a new manager.

 

A sign of things to come?

 

Unfortunately, I think the only way a sign will help is you beat Hendry and Baker with that sign until they are rendered brain dead and incapable of performing their jobs successfully.

 

 

Oh wait. They are already brain dead and incapable of performing their jobs successfully.

 

Ah right, who hit these guys over the head with a sign?

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Both Florida in 2003 and Houston in 2004 changed their managers, so Hendrys reference to them is either dumb or foretelling.

 

I intentionally avoided baseball yesterday (mothers day, Cubs suck)and just got online tonight (no Cubs game today). I am in utter shock they havent done something. At the very least fire Rothschild or Gene Clines or dfa Perez or Bynum or Rusch. Something that will at least tell the players and coaches there is going to be accountability. They only moves that have been made thru this stretch is moving Guzman, Aardsma and Restovich. WOW those are some real statements. Come on Jim Do Something of note, Why dont you at least say we Suck and call some players our publicly.

 

Really I am more depressed about the situation today than I was before.

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When will we all realize you cannot build relationships on lies?In 63 years of this pathetic team,this management team should have their lying tongue cut out.
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Same excuses from Hendry. He has no clue, it's obvious.

 

And here are some obvious responses to Mr. Hendry:

 

Didn't know Prior and Wood would miss time? LMAO. Wake up man, the whole country knew it except you.

 

Thought Rusch and Williams would perform well? Wow. That pretty much says it all, doesn't it? Anyone with half a brain knew they were shaky.

 

Look at the Stros? Sure, pal. Let's. They came back because they had an ACTUAL GOOD BALLCLUB. We don't. And you created it. Time to skip town because you aren't getting it done.

 

 

The proof is in. Hendry can't cut it. Either the Trib eats that extension and fires him, or we're in for 2 more years of hell. Mark it down.

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I am just suprised that Hendry actually went onto a radio talk show and answered some questions.

 

All he did was defend himself. The worst part is that he knows he screwed up and he won't admit it. Just come clean.

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he didnt give a really good anwser on fundamentals either, saying that a lot of players who have played the game for a long time are doing it. he was offering up more excuses than saying it has to stop
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Let me play the Devil's Advocate here -

 

The 2006 Cubs, in some ways, is a transitional team. They have DLee, ARam, and Barrett as established players. Cedeno and Murton are going through growing pains, and Pie and EPatt are in the wings and may be starters next year.

 

As for pitching, the Cubs have Prior and Z as the foundation of the staff with three established veterans in the bullpen. Wood is in his last year, Mad Dog might be. You have Marshall, Guzman, and Hill who also are going through growing pains and could be starters next year.

 

At this point, there is no clear direction for Hendry to take. He can trade Wood, Miller, Jones, and Pierre to get the team younger and give the youngsters more experience this season. He can try to get a veteran bench player or two by trading away some promising prospects to compete for this year.

 

Not an easy situation to face.

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That's what they pay him the big bucks for. He should be earning his pay. Stone on the radio today said that he believes Maddux will get an extension soon to held solidify him as a Cub entering the Hall and to get people's focss off of the losing team.
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That's what they pay him the big bucks for. He should be earning his pay. Stone on the radio today said that he believes Maddux will get an extension soon to held solidify him as a Cub entering the Hall and to get people's focss off of the losing team.

 

I'd like Maddux to become the Cubs pitching coach whenever he retires. I'd even sign him next year as a player/coach (if that's allowed)

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Let me play the Devil's Advocate here -

 

The 2006 Cubs, in some ways, is a transitional team. They have DLee, ARam, and Barrett as established players. Cedeno and Murton are going through growing pains, and Pie and EPatt are in the wings and may be starters next year.

 

As for pitching, the Cubs have Prior and Z as the foundation of the staff with three established veterans in the bullpen. Wood is in his last year, Mad Dog might be. You have Marshall, Guzman, and Hill who also are going through growing pains and could be starters next year.

 

At this point, there is no clear direction for Hendry to take. He can trade Wood, Miller, Jones, and Pierre to get the team younger and give the youngsters more experience this season. He can try to get a veteran bench player or two by trading away some promising prospects to compete for this year.

 

Not an easy situation to face.

 

Understood. It's a situation that Hendry has put himself in, however. Basically you're saying he's out of bullets. And I can't argue it. A good GM wouldn't get himself into such a mess.

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That's what they pay him the big bucks for. He should be earning his pay. Stone on the radio today said that he believes Maddux will get an extension soon to held solidify him as a Cub entering the Hall and to get people's focss off of the losing team.

 

I'd like Maddux to become the Cubs pitching coach whenever he retires. I'd even sign him next year as a player/coach (if that's allowed)

 

According to Stone, he does more for the pitchers than Larry

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That's what they pay him the big bucks for. He should be earning his pay. Stone on the radio today said that he believes Maddux will get an extension soon to held solidify him as a Cub entering the Hall and to get people's focss off of the losing team.

Was he actually being serious? It would take more than another year or two for Maddux to get into the Hall as a Cub (I doubt anything less than another three years with a World Series title would do it). And it would be a horrible move for Hendry to make.

 

There's no real impact move for Hendry to make. Aside from finding a platoon partner for Jones and firing most of the coaching staff, Dusty, and then himself, there are no easy answers.

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That's what they pay him the big bucks for. He should be earning his pay. Stone on the radio today said that he believes Maddux will get an extension soon to held solidify him as a Cub entering the Hall and to get people's focss off of the losing team.

Was he actually being serious? It would take more than another year or two for Maddux to get into the Hall as a Cub (I doubt anything less than another three years with a World Series title would do it). And it would be a horrible move for Hendry to make.

 

There's no real impact move for Hendry to make. Aside from finding a platoon partner for Jones and firing most of the coaching staff, Dusty, and then himself, there are no easy answers.

 

A lot of people said giving Maddux the third year would be horrible too.

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That's what they pay him the big bucks for. He should be earning his pay. Stone on the radio today said that he believes Maddux will get an extension soon to held solidify him as a Cub entering the Hall and to get people's focss off of the losing team.

Was he actually being serious? It would take more than another year or two for Maddux to get into the Hall as a Cub (I doubt anything less than another three years with a World Series title would do it). And it would be a horrible move for Hendry to make.

 

There's no real impact move for Hendry to make. Aside from finding a platoon partner for Jones and firing most of the coaching staff, Dusty, and then himself, there are no easy answers.

Yes, Stone was being completely serious and he thinks that will happen soon, but he also hinted that it would be done for all the wrong reasons. By the way, what happened to Hendry's policy of not negotiating contracts during the season?

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That's what they pay him the big bucks for. He should be earning his pay. Stone on the radio today said that he believes Maddux will get an extension soon to held solidify him as a Cub entering the Hall and to get people's focss off of the losing team.

Was he actually being serious? It would take more than another year or two for Maddux to get into the Hall as a Cub (I doubt anything less than another three years with a World Series title would do it). And it would be a horrible move for Hendry to make.

 

There's no real impact move for Hendry to make. Aside from finding a platoon partner for Jones and firing most of the coaching staff, Dusty, and then himself, there are no easy answers.

 

id give him a 1 year deal with a team option in 2008. he has shown that he still can be a great pitcher thus far. i would try really hard to resign him if he continues his performance this year so far

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I am not so sure that Stone thinks it would be a bad idea. Stone has a ton of good things to say about Maddux. Even as a fifth starter, you can't fidn much better. He would be pricey, but price should not be an option for this team. He would demand more than he is worth, but it is money well spent if he gets you 13-15 wins a season.
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Let me play the Devil's Advocate here -

 

The 2006 Cubs, in some ways, is a transitional team. They have DLee, ARam, and Barrett as established players. Cedeno and Murton are going through growing pains, and Pie and EPatt are in the wings and may be starters next year.

 

As for pitching, the Cubs have Prior and Z as the foundation of the staff with three established veterans in the bullpen. Wood is in his last year, Mad Dog might be. You have Marshall, Guzman, and Hill who also are going through growing pains and could be starters next year.

 

At this point, there is no clear direction for Hendry to take. He can trade Wood, Miller, Jones, and Pierre to get the team younger and give the youngsters more experience this season. He can try to get a veteran bench player or two by trading away some promising prospects to compete for this year.

 

Not an easy situation to face.

 

It's frustrating that we accept "transitional teams". The Yankees and Red Sox win every year, we make as much money as at least the Red Sox, yet we do not win. We barely ever win. In fact, we never win. We shouldn't accept transitional teams.

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There's a long way to go in the season and there's no reason to extend a 40-year-old pitcher in mid-May who's coming off a pair of 4.00+ ERA seasons. And it doesn't really make much sense for Hendry, either, as that makes a big impact on what he's going to do with Wood.
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Let me play the Devil's Advocate here -

 

The 2006 Cubs, in some ways, is a transitional team. They have DLee, ARam, and Barrett as established players. Cedeno and Murton are going through growing pains, and Pie and EPatt are in the wings and may be starters next year.

 

As for pitching, the Cubs have Prior and Z as the foundation of the staff with three established veterans in the bullpen. Wood is in his last year, Mad Dog might be. You have Marshall, Guzman, and Hill who also are going through growing pains and could be starters next year.

 

At this point, there is no clear direction for Hendry to take. He can trade Wood, Miller, Jones, and Pierre to get the team younger and give the youngsters more experience this season. He can try to get a veteran bench player or two by trading away some promising prospects to compete for this year.

 

Not an easy situation to face.

 

It's frustrating that we accept "transitional teams". The Yankees and Red Sox win every year, we make as much money as at least the Red Sox, yet we do not win. We barely ever win. In fact, we never win. We shouldn't accept transitional teams.

 

especially after the "transitional team" of 2005

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There's a long way to go in the season and there's no reason to extend a 40-year-old pitcher in mid-May who's coming off a pair of 4.00+ ERA seasons. And it doesn't really make much sense for Hendry, either, as that makes a big impact on what he's going to do with Wood.

 

Yeah there is no reason to give a contract to Maddux now. Who knows what kind of year he could have. I hope he pitches great, but I'd still let it all play out.

 

Here's my dream coaching team: Girardi, Maddux as PC, Ryno as HC, Bench Coach is Dawson, and the base coaches are Grace and Sosa (LOL!)

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There's a long way to go in the season and there's no reason to extend a 40-year-old pitcher in mid-May who's coming off a pair of 4.00+ ERA seasons. And it doesn't really make much sense for Hendry, either, as that makes a big impact on what he's going to do with Wood.

 

What's age have to do with anything? He's been the Cubs No. 2 behind Z since he got here.

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