2006 INJURY THREAD

[Old Style]

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor????

:?

John Blutoski

 

Animal House

 

Blutoski? It's Belushi.

The character's name was Blutarsky. :idea:

[otis89]

Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor????

:?

John Blutoski

 

Animal House

 

Blutoski? It's Belushi.

The character's name was Blutarsky. :idea:

 

Oh. He still spelled it wrong. :P

[Butterscup1679666578]

So is every post and every game thread going to be 'woe is us' from here on out? He's out for the first half. I'm pretty sure the Astros sucked the past two years in the first half, and ended up doing pretty well. Anything can happen. I'm bummed about it too, but it's not gonna stop be from believing that this team can hang around until Lee, Wood, and Prior return, and that we can still make a playoff push.

[da bears]

So is every post and every game thread going to be 'woe is us' from here on out? He's out for the first half. I'm pretty sure the Astros sucked the past two years in the first half, and ended up doing pretty well. Anything can happen. I'm bummed about it too, but it's not gonna stop be from believing that this team can hang around until Lee, Wood, and Prior return, and that we can still make a playoff push.

 

Very good point. It would be very gratifying if they could pull an Astros. Time for the Cubs to pick it up! And hopefully the idiotic Cardinal fans and White Sox fans (to Cubbies75: ahem, Joe Booze) can be at least a little classy over the Lee injury.

[Soul]

So is every post and every game thread going to be 'woe is us' from here on out? He's out for the first half. I'm pretty sure the Astros sucked the past two years in the first half, and ended up doing pretty well. Anything can happen. I'm bummed about it too, but it's not gonna stop be from believing that this team can hang around until Lee, Wood, and Prior return, and that we can still make a playoff push.

 

Very good point. It would be very gratifying if they could pull an Astros. Time for the Cubs to pick it up! And hopefully the idiotic Cardinal fans and White Sox fans (to Cubbies75: ahem, Joe Booze) can be at least a little classy over the Lee injury.

 

Don't count on it:

 

http://forums.espn.go.com/espn/thread?forumID=104&threadID=3525113&lastPostID=22386515

[Warpticon]

I have been a Cubs fan for my whole life and have been lurking here for quite some time. I am sick to my stomach right now, but I felt the need to post to say that the season is NOT over. Losing DLee sucks big time, but I think giving up right now is very premature. Guys are going to have to step up, but hopefully they will rise to the occasion. And if we can get Prior, Wood, and Miller back healthy, that could carry us for quite a while.

 

Very true. People need to back up from the ledge.

 

Nice gesture, but it's over.

 

Astros '05

[Andy]

All this Astros '05 talk assumes that the Cubs are a team capable of ripping off about 35 wins in 45 games when healthy. They're not. We can't come back from this. I don't want to think it's over in April, but it'd take a pretty damn big miracle.

[USSoccer]

I have been a Cubs fan for my whole life and have been lurking here for quite some time. I am sick to my stomach right now, but I felt the need to post to say that the season is NOT over. Losing DLee sucks big time, but I think giving up right now is very premature. Guys are going to have to step up, but hopefully they will rise to the occasion. And if we can get Prior, Wood, and Miller back healthy, that could carry us for quite a while.

 

Very true. People need to back up from the ledge.

 

Nice gesture, but it's over.

 

Astros '05

 

Look at the schedule in May and for the rest of April. It's hardly a murderers row of teams we play. We'll be okay until June, and by then maybe Derrek will be back.

[Soul]

I have been a Cubs fan for my whole life and have been lurking here for quite some time. I am sick to my stomach right now, but I felt the need to post to say that the season is NOT over. Losing DLee sucks big time, but I think giving up right now is very premature. Guys are going to have to step up, but hopefully they will rise to the occasion. And if we can get Prior, Wood, and Miller back healthy, that could carry us for quite a while.

 

Very true. People need to back up from the ledge.

 

Nice gesture, but it's over.

 

Astros '05

 

You think this Cub team is as good as the '05 Astros? Wow.

[minnesotacubsfan]

I just had a horrible preminition

 

 

 

ARAM pulled groin...........

 

](*,)

[Soul]

I just had a horrible preminition

 

 

 

ARAM pulled groin...........

 

](*,)

 

He's already been tweaky.

 

Happens every year, so why will '06 be different?

[minnesotacubsfan]

I just had a horrible preminition

 

 

 

ARAM pulled groin...........

 

](*,)

 

He's already been tweaky.

 

Happens every year, so why will '06 be different?

 

thats what I am saying...........

[treebird]

where is my sticky?

[Roast]

RoastTheD---Goat out indefinatley after gouging his eyes watching the replay of lee's injury.

[badger1679666666]

Wood - Knee/Shoulder. Check.

Prior - Shoulder. Check.

Pagan - Hamstring. Check.

Jones - Twitchy Hamstring. Check.

Ramirez - Twitchy Hamstring. Check.

Mabry - Shoulder on a colision. Check.

Lee - Broken Wrist in 2 spots. Check.

Eyre - Knee Contusion. Check.

 

 

What's next?

[snoodmonger]

Wood - Knee/Shoulder. Check.

Prior - Shoulder. Check.

Pagan - Hamstring. Check.

Jones - Twitchy Hamstring. Check.

Ramirez - Twitchy Hamstring. Check.

Mabry - Shoulder on a colision. Check.

Lee - Broken Wrist in 2 spots. Check.

Eyre - Knee Contusion. Check.

 

 

What's next?

 

World Series Hopes - Shattered. Check.

[jjgman21]

I have been a Cubs fan for my whole life and have been lurking here for quite some time. I am sick to my stomach right now, but I felt the need to post to say that the season is NOT over. Losing DLee sucks big time, but I think giving up right now is very premature. Guys are going to have to step up, but hopefully they will rise to the occasion. And if we can get Prior, Wood, and Miller back healthy, that could carry us for quite a while.

 

Very true. People need to back up from the ledge.

 

Nice gesture, but it's over.

 

Astros '05

 

You think this Cub team is as good as the '05 Astros? Wow.

 

if healthy and producing like they are capable of, I don't think it's even debatable that the 2006 Cubs 25 man and 40 man roster is far superior to the 2005 Astros.

[Andy]

Wood - Knee/Shoulder. Check.

Prior - Shoulder. Check.

Pagan - Hamstring. Check.

Jones - Twitchy Hamstring. Check.

Ramirez - Twitchy Hamstring. Check.

Mabry - Shoulder on a colision. Check.

Lee - Broken Wrist in 2 spots. Check.

Eyre - Knee Contusion. Check.

 

 

What's next?

This is why even though we are 9-5, it feels like we're 0-14.

[TruffleShuffle]

So is every post and every game thread going to be 'woe is us' from here on out? He's out for the first half. I'm pretty sure the Astros sucked the past two years in the first half, and ended up doing pretty well.

 

if healthy and producing like they are capable of, I don't think it's even debatable that the 2006 Cubs 25 man and 40 man roster is far superior to the 2005 Astros.

 

Isn't debatable??? They aren't healthy. Wood isn't healthy. Neither is Prior. ARam is pretty much guaranteed to miss a handful of games this year, and the rest of the supporting cast is mediocre.

 

The Astros had Berkman, Ensberg, 3 starting pitchers with ERAs under 3.00, and the best closer in the league. The Cubs don't have anthing close to that, except for ARam in place of Ensberg. Even Jason Lane is better than any of the Cubs' 3 starting outfielders. Zambrano, Prior and Wood can't hold a candle to what Clemens, Oswalt and Pettitte did last season. While I like Dempster, he's not in the same league as Brad Lidge.

 

Wait til next year. Although I guess that if the Cubs manage a .500 record with Lee, Prior and Wood missing a significant amount of time, people can feel good about it, rather than disappointed.

[soccer10k]

So is every post and every game thread going to be 'woe is us' from here on out? He's out for the first half. I'm pretty sure the Astros sucked the past two years in the first half, and ended up doing pretty well.

 

if healthy and producing like they are capable of, I don't think it's even debatable that the 2006 Cubs 25 man and 40 man roster is far superior to the 2005 Astros.

 

Isn't debatable??? They aren't healthy. Wood isn't healthy. Neither is Prior. ARam is pretty much guaranteed to miss a handful of games this year, and the rest of the supporting cast is mediocre.

 

The Astros had Berkman, Ensberg, 3 starting pitchers with ERAs under 3.00, and the best closer in the league. The Cubs don't have anthing close to that, except for ARam in place of Ensberg. Even Jason Lane is better than any of the Cubs' 3 starting outfielders. Zambrano, Prior and Wood can't hold a candle to what Clemens, Oswalt and Pettitte did last season. While I like Dempster, he's not in the same league as Brad Lidge.

 

Wait til next year. Although I guess that if the Cubs manage a .500 record with Lee, Prior and Wood missing a significant amount of time, people can feel good about it, rather than disappointed.

 

The only good sign for us is the NL is down this year. The Cardinals aren't as good and the Astros, as long as Clemens isn't on the team, aren't as good either. With that being said, I think we would need a heathy Prior/Wood and some career years from other guys, as well as a completely healthy DLee the last two months of the year to have a chance. If we can somehow manage to hover around .500 until Lee comes back we have a chance. Unfortuantely, I don't see that happening.

[macuser1]

Wait til next year.

 

Nothing personal, but I am getting just a bit tired of hearing that.

 

Meh. I publicly announce I am switching loyalties to the Blue Jays.

[TruffleShuffle]

Wait til next year.

 

Nothing personal, but I am getting just a bit tired of hearing that.

 

I'm still rooting for the Cubs, just like I did last year even though I knew before the season started that their bullpen was too lousy and their on-base abilities too low to win anything. Unfortunately, I'm a realist.

[Soul]

Wait til next year.

 

Nothing personal, but I am getting just a bit tired of hearing that.

 

I'm still rooting for the Cubs, just like I did last year even though I knew before the season started that their bullpen was too lousy and their on-base abilities too low to win anything. Unfortunately, I'm a realist.

 

Me too. I used to be an optimist, way back in my younger years. Then came heartbreak season after heartbreak season. It wears you down after awhile. I'll always root for the Cubs, but when they're bad or something devastating happens----I call it what it is. Another catastrophe.

[Derwood]

looks like cancelling my ExtraInnings package was a good move this year

[jjgman21]

So is every post and every game thread going to be 'woe is us' from here on out? He's out for the first half. I'm pretty sure the Astros sucked the past two years in the first half, and ended up doing pretty well.

 

if healthy and producing like they are capable of, I don't think it's even debatable that the 2006 Cubs 25 man and 40 man roster is far superior to the 2005 Astros.

 

Isn't debatable??? They aren't healthy. Wood isn't healthy. Neither is Prior. ARam is pretty much guaranteed to miss a handful of games this year, and the rest of the supporting cast is mediocre.

 

The Astros had Berkman, Ensberg, 3 starting pitchers with ERAs under 3.00, and the best closer in the league. The Cubs don't have anthing close to that, except for ARam in place of Ensberg. Even Jason Lane is better than any of the Cubs' 3 starting outfielders. Zambrano, Prior and Wood can't hold a candle to what Clemens, Oswalt and Pettitte did last season. While I like Dempster, he's not in the same league as Brad Lidge.

 

Wait til next year. Although I guess that if the Cubs manage a .500 record with Lee, Prior and Wood missing a significant amount of time, people can feel good about it, rather than disappointed.

 

when not ignoring my caveats and living in fantasies, ie. Jason Lane is better than Matt Murton or that Brad Lidge was a better closer than Dempster last year, it isn't even debatable.

 

I will give you that the Cubs big 3 of Prior, Z, Wood, if healthy and producing like they are capable of probably would not equal what Pettittie, Clemens and Oswalt did last year, but they wouldn't be excessively worse (all are perfectly capable of being below or near 3.00 ERAs) and Maddux and whoever fills the majority of the 5th starter role would blow away anything the Astros got out of the 4th and 5th starter last year.

 

the Astros bullpen was very good last year. however if healthy and producing like they are capable of the Cubs bullpen is far better and much deeper.

 

let's look at the lineups if healthy and producing like they are capable of

 

Pierre > Tavarez

Walker >/= Biggio

Lee > Berkman

Aram >/= Ensberg

Murton > Lane

Jones >> Burke

Barrett >>> Ausmus

Cedeno >> Everett

 

ah, but the Cubs bench sucks. well take a gander at what the Astros bench did last year. their bench was pathetic. organizational depth? the Astros proved they don't have help like Marshall, Guz, Hill, Pie, Aardsma/Wuertz/Novoa capable of stepping in and helping the team win games.

 

if healthy and producing like they are capable of, it's not even debatable.