Lee (fractures, 8-12 weeks) and Eyre (day to day) hurt

[srbin84]

What about Prior and Guzman or Hill for Teixeira? Would Texas go for it?

 

Yes, I am sure Texas would be thrilled to trade a 25 year old stud who put up the 7th best OPS+ in the AL last year, for a major leaguer who can't stay healthy, plus either a minor leaguer who can't stay healthy, or a minor leaguer who might make it as a 4th starter. There may not be enough alcohol in the world to get Jon Daniels to consider that deal.

 

Throw in Pie and Epatt, I don't care.

[mhuber92211]

For all those people saying the season is over and tossing in the towel, they sure are coming up with a lot of solutions and a lot of posts. I guess NSBB won't be as busy in the coming weeks because so many people aren't goimg to be interested. Oh well, less trolls i guess.

[Cubfanintheknow]

I haven't read all the posts in this thread, but I'll echo the sentiments of those who believe not all is lost here.

 

No one team is going to run and hide in the NL Central like the Cardinals did the last couple of seasons. IF (and I know it's a big IF) the Cubs can play .500 ball while Lee is out,they'll be in good shape. I think he'll be back after the ASB, giving the Cubs enough time to make a run at the division.

 

All is not lost. At least not yet.

[bhogg]

Pitching, pitching, pitching.

 

The magic number, with or without Dlee, is 3.

 

We hold the opposition to 3 runs, we'll win most of those games.

[Cubzfan64]

Pitching, pitching, pitching.

 

The magic number, with or without Dlee, is 3.

 

We hold the opposition to 3 runs, we'll win most of those games.

 

Funny that I hopped on here to post a quick response and end up really wanting to say the same thing you did :-). Losing Lee of course hurts, but I agree wholeheartedly that if our pitching is good at a minimum of 2 of every 4 games (or preferably 2 of every 3), we have enough "potential" offense to win 50%+ of our games.

 

Of course that's a big if on our pitching, and it also means some other guys are gonna have to kick it up a notch, but that's what a team has to do when adversity strikes like this - you either suck it up and give it your best shot, or you play "poor us" and put forth a half-ass effort.

 

With a 9-5 start, I'm hoping we can stay within sight of the .500 mark by the All Star break which would hopefully put us in a position to either make some moves, or at the least get Lee back and give us a shot in the 2nd half.

 

That said - if we see more health problems or poor performances from our pitching staff, I'll agree with the naysayers and toss in the towel.

[soapy]

For all those people saying the season is over and tossing in the towel, they sure are coming up with a lot of solutions and a lot of posts. I guess NSBB won't be as busy in the coming weeks because so many people aren't goimg to be interested. Oh well, less trolls i guess.

 

Dude, get over yourself.

 

Oh holy people who worship the Cubs regardless of what happens!! We loley trolls who sometimes questions moves by the Cubs or get upset when the best player on the team gets injured are so unworthy of your greatness. I bow down to thee.

 

Just because people are having an emotional reaction to Lee's injury doesn't mean they "aren't going to be interested".

[NCCubFan]

Oh well, less trolls i guess.

I choose to remain optimistic about the situation, but those who don't are pessimistic, not trolls. Your comment suggests that being pessimistic about the situation constitutes trolling; it doesn't.

[CaliforniaRaisin]

I think calling those who are pessimistic or disappointed "trolls" is uncalled for.

[YearofDaCubs]

So staying in house I'm thinking this might be our best option offensively:

 

Pierre - CF

Hairston - 2B

Walker - 1B

ARam - 3B

Barrett - C

JJones - RF

Murton - LF

Cedeno - SS

PITCHER

 

Big difference not having Lee there but we really don't have many other options.

[rawaction]

I think calling those who are pessimistic or disappointed "trolls" is uncalled for.

 

Yeah, let's keep this thread non-personal, and not get the biggest news thread of the last couple years locked.

[Chocolate Milk]

I'm pretty sad.

[Danny82]

What about Prior and Guzman or Hill for Teixeira? Would Texas go for it?

 

Yes, I am sure Texas would be thrilled to trade a 25 year old stud who put up the 7th best OPS+ in the AL last year, for a major leaguer who can't stay healthy, plus either a minor leaguer who can't stay healthy, or a minor leaguer who might make it as a 4th starter. There may not be enough alcohol in the world to get Jon Daniels to consider that deal.

 

Throw in Pie and Epatt, I don't care.

 

Which is why it is a pretty good thing that you are not the GM.

[Skers and Cubbies]

Barrett was drafted as a shortstop, came up through the Expos' system primarily as a third baseman, was converted to catcher late, split his rookie year between third base and catcher, and became a full-time catcher in 2001.

 

thanks for clearing that up.

Just couldn't remeber.

 

p.s. I haven't given up hope yet tried to make a joke to ease the pain.....didn't work.

Walker can handle 1st for a bit just wish he didn't have to.

[srbin84]

What about Prior and Guzman or Hill for Teixeira? Would Texas go for it?

 

Yes, I am sure Texas would be thrilled to trade a 25 year old stud who put up the 7th best OPS+ in the AL last year, for a major leaguer who can't stay healthy, plus either a minor leaguer who can't stay healthy, or a minor leaguer who might make it as a 4th starter. There may not be enough alcohol in the world to get Jon Daniels to consider that deal.

 

Throw in Pie and Epatt, I don't care.

 

Which is why it is a pretty good thing that you are not the GM.

 

Sometimes you have to give a lot and get a young superstar like Teixera. That's never a bad move. It's a strategy that has the won the Cards a lot of division titles in recent years.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Sometimes you have to give a lot and get a young superstar like Teixera. That's never a bad move. It's a strategy that has the won the Cards a lot of division titles in recent years.

 

What's the strategy for when Lee is back?

[srbin84]

Sometimes you have to give a lot and get a young superstar like Teixera. That's never a bad move. It's a strategy that has the won the Cards a lot of division titles in recent years.

 

What's the strategy for when Lee is back?

 

He moves to the outfield, he's played there a little with the Rangers.

[Ding Dong Johnson]

Sometimes you have to give a lot and get a young superstar like Teixera. That's never a bad move. It's a strategy that has the won the Cards a lot of division titles in recent years.

 

What's the strategy for when Lee is back?

 

He moves to the outfield, he's played there a little with the Rangers.

 

That was just to get him in the lineup. Most of those games were in 2003 when A) he was a rookie and B) the Rangers had Palmeiro and Jurassic Carl. I would have found a way to get all 3 in the lineup too.

[srbin84]

Sometimes you have to give a lot and get a young superstar like Teixera. That's never a bad move. It's a strategy that has the won the Cards a lot of division titles in recent years.

 

What's the strategy for when Lee is back?

 

He moves to the outfield, he's played there a little with the Rangers.

 

That was just to get him in the lineup. Most of those games were in 2003 when A) he was a rookie and B) the Rangers had Palmeiro and Jurassic Carl. I would have found a way to get all 3 in the lineup too.

 

Just liked you'd find a way to get Lee and Tex in the lineup at the same time if we had both.

[Andy]

I'm pretty sad.

I already miss Lee. I'd like to think that four or five of our guys will now have career years to make up for his injury, but this is the Cubs, not the White Sox or Cards. More likely we'll just have to deal with even more injuries in the next couple of weeks.

 

Nevertheless, I am not giving up the hope.

[Danny82]

What about Prior and Guzman or Hill for Teixeira? Would Texas go for it?

 

Yes, I am sure Texas would be thrilled to trade a 25 year old stud who put up the 7th best OPS+ in the AL last year, for a major leaguer who can't stay healthy, plus either a minor leaguer who can't stay healthy, or a minor leaguer who might make it as a 4th starter. There may not be enough alcohol in the world to get Jon Daniels to consider that deal.

 

Throw in Pie and Epatt, I don't care.

 

Which is why it is a pretty good thing that you are not the GM.

 

Sometimes you have to give a lot and get a young superstar like Teixera. That's never a bad move. It's a strategy that has the won the Cards a lot of division titles in recent years.

 

It has? How, aside from the Rolen deal--which was for a FA to be? They got fleeced on the Mulder deal.

 

To me, your proposal reeks a scent much more similar to the Nationals giving up Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore and Brandon Phillips for Bartolo Colon. How is that trade working out for the Nationals?

[srbin84]

What about Prior and Guzman or Hill for Teixeira? Would Texas go for it?

 

Yes, I am sure Texas would be thrilled to trade a 25 year old stud who put up the 7th best OPS+ in the AL last year, for a major leaguer who can't stay healthy, plus either a minor leaguer who can't stay healthy, or a minor leaguer who might make it as a 4th starter. There may not be enough alcohol in the world to get Jon Daniels to consider that deal.

 

Throw in Pie and Epatt, I don't care.

 

Which is why it is a pretty good thing that you are not the GM.

 

Sometimes you have to give a lot and get a young superstar like Teixera. That's never a bad move. It's a strategy that has the won the Cards a lot of division titles in recent years.

 

It has? How, aside from the Rolen deal--which was for a FA to be? They got fleeced on the Mulder deal.

 

To me, your proposal reeks a scent much more similar to the Nationals giving up Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore and Brandon Phillips for Bartolo Colon. How is that trade working out for the Nationals?

 

First off, he is signed through 2007. Secondly, why are you so confident in the Cubs farm system? The Cards did it in the Kennedy-Edmonds deal They did it for McGwire. They did it for Darryl Kile as well.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Do you really think Prior, Guzman/Hill, Pie, and EPatt for Teixeira is a good deal?

[Blueheart05]

It sounds like a panic move. DLee isn't out for the season. Where's Mark going to play when he returns?

[Danny82]

First off, he is signed through 2007. Secondly, why are you so confident in the Cubs farm system? The Cards did it in the Kennedy-Edmonds deal They did it for McGwire. They did it for Darryl Kile as well.

 

And none of the prospects traded in those deals were REMOTELY near the level of Pie, much less Prior.

[soccer10k]

 

It has? How, aside from the Rolen deal--which was for a FA to be? They got fleeced on the Mulder deal.

 

To me, your proposal reeks a scent much more similar to the Nationals giving up Cliff Lee, Grady Sizemore and Brandon Phillips for Bartolo Colon. How is that trade working out for the Nationals?

 

In St. Louis's defense, everybody gets fleeced by Billy Beane in his trades. It's not really something to be surprised about.