Bonds

[goonys evil twin]

If you allow it to slide to the point where it becomes endemic, it is much harder to stop.

 

People have been throwing stuff on the field since fans started attending games. I don't see how this situation changes anything in terms of it becoming endemic or not. If it starts happening more often, step up enforcement.

[badger1679666666]

Rob Neyer on ESPN Chat

 

Dave (Enid, OK): Someone's gotta ask this: What do you think of the whole Barry Bonds/syringe thing last night?

 

SportsNation Rob Neyer: I think it's like throwing cookies at the Cookie Monster.

 

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Now THAT we can ALL agree on is freaking hillarious. Right Tim?

[soccer10k]

Personally I can't wait to see what fans come up with to heckle Barry Bonds. I'm not referring to throwing things on the field but San Diego isn't known as a mean town.

 

Also, Bonds brought this upon himself by taking steroids. Don't give me the BS argument that everybody was doing it and thats just what baseball players did. Bonds was one of the best players in the game WITHOUT steroids. He didn't need them. So I don't feel the least bit bad for him.

 

Most of you aren't from California and aren't subjected to all of the media attention that I have to read about out here. There are also all of the idiot Giants fans that still refuse to admit that Bonds took steroids. Maybe it's just that I have gotten so sick and tired of Bonds that I don't care that somebody threw a syringe on the field. I'm not saying that I'm going to do it, but I just don't feel bad for Bonds at all.

[Guest]

Rob Neyer on ESPN Chat

 

Dave (Enid, OK): Someone's gotta ask this: What do you think of the whole Barry Bonds/syringe thing last night?

 

SportsNation Rob Neyer: I think it's like throwing cookies at the Cookie Monster.

 

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Now THAT we can ALL agree on is freaking hillarious. Right Tim?

Points for Neyer. Words are funny, though, throwing stuff at people isn't.

[soccer10k]

Rob Neyer on ESPN Chat

 

Dave (Enid, OK): Someone's gotta ask this: What do you think of the whole Barry Bonds/syringe thing last night?

 

SportsNation Rob Neyer: I think it's like throwing cookies at the Cookie Monster.

 

 

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Now THAT we can ALL agree on is freaking hillarious. Right Tim?

 

I love it.

[Rerisen]

If Bonds wasnt approaching Babe's and Hank's records I wonder if steroids would still be an issue in baseball this year? Or if it was someone more liked by the media. Not to excuse Barry in any way, I cant stand the guy. But probably a quite large percentage of guys hitting large amounts of home runs were tainted by steroids throughout the last 15 years, but its not really a big deal because no one cares if someone at 365 career home runs was helped by steroids to pass up 20 more players in the all time books who were ranked somewhere back at 98th place all time.

[srbin84]

Drugs have always been in baseball, espcecially when they could help performance. Tim Raines snortted coke so much that he had viles in his back pants pockets while he played and always slid head first to avoid breaking them. Nobody wants to take his steals away, so leave the records alone across the board and let each fan percieve players and thier accomplishments as they like. If Bonds or Pujols or somebody start failing tests, ban them from baseball and delete all of their records, but unitl then, leave it alone.

[soccer10k]

If Bonds wasnt approaching Babe's and Hank's records I wonder if steroids would still be an issue in baseball this year? Or if it was someone more liked by the media. Not to excuse Barry in any way, I cant stand the guy. But probably a quite large percentage of guys hitting large amounts of home runs were tainted by steroids throughout the last 15 years, but its not really a big deal because no one cares if someone at 365 career home runs was helped by steroids to pass up 20 more players in the all time books who were ranked somewhere back at 98th place all time.

 

Drugs have always been in baseball, espcecially when they could help performance. Tim Raines snortted coke so much that he had viles in his back pants pockets while he played and always slid head first to avoid breaking them. Nobody wants to take his steals away, so leave the records alone across the board and let each fan percieve players and thier accomplishments as they like. If Bonds or Pujols or somebody start failing tests, ban them from baseball and delete all of their records, but unitl then, leave it alone.

 

Do you need more evidence against Barry Bonds? Honestly. Look, I know that many other players, including NSBB favorite Sammy Sosa, have seen huge changes in their bodies, but nobody has as much surrounding him as Barry Bonds does. Do I think Sammy took steroids? Yes. Am I fairly sure he did? No. Am I fairly sure Bonds took steroids? Yes. That's the difference. And yes, true baseball purists DO care that somebody who hit "365 home runs" took steroids. Brady Anderson, a man with only 210 home runs, was the first example of a guy that wasn't anywhere near a home run hitter that suddenly became a home run hitter when he hit 50 in 1996. Obviously in 1996 nobody was talking about steroids but, even as an 11 year old kid, I distinctly remember saying that it was weird that somebody whose previous high was just 21 home runs.

 

I care that steroids are removed from the game and thousands of other people do also. This is a big deal and it is something that needs to be addressed. I could give a rat's ass about Tim Raines and his coke because coke doesn't help you hit a ball farther so don't try to use that argument.

 

As long as I'm ranting, something else that ticks me off is that some people(re: Torii Hunter) claim that the only reason baseball is making such a big deal out of this is because Barry Bonds is black. I'm sorry but does Torii remember what happened to Mark McGwire when he pleaded the fifth in front of Congress all day last year? McGwire got skewered in the media for not saying anything and many people considered McGwire to have admitted his guilt. How about the 47835 replays of Rafael Palmeiro's finger pointing escapades after he tested positive last year?

 

The steroids problem is an issue that baseball needed to address because they waited too long to do it. Yes I'll admit that I loved the Summer of 98 when McGwire and Sammy were going homer for homer. But nobody knew how widespread steroids were. I just think it's pathetic that baseball needed Congress to step in and basically force them to implement a strong steroid policy. The whole steroid problem is why I hate Donald Fehr. He realized that there was a problem and refused to give in one bit. I don't think the situation would be as bad as it is had baseball put in the testing policy it currently has a couple years ago on its own. But the public views this as baseball only doing what it has to do to keep Congress of it's back.

 

Honestly I don't think baseball has done enough yet and I would like to see it do more. What that entails, I don't know. But more must be done and soon.

[srbin84]

If Bonds wasnt approaching Babe's and Hank's records I wonder if steroids would still be an issue in baseball this year? Or if it was someone more liked by the media. Not to excuse Barry in any way, I cant stand the guy. But probably a quite large percentage of guys hitting large amounts of home runs were tainted by steroids throughout the last 15 years, but its not really a big deal because no one cares if someone at 365 career home runs was helped by steroids to pass up 20 more players in the all time books who were ranked somewhere back at 98th place all time.

 

Drugs have always been in baseball, espcecially when they could help performance. Tim Raines snortted coke so much that he had viles in his back pants pockets while he played and always slid head first to avoid breaking them. Nobody wants to take his steals away, so leave the records alone across the board and let each fan percieve players and thier accomplishments as they like. If Bonds or Pujols or somebody start failing tests, ban them from baseball and delete all of their records, but unitl then, leave it alone.

 

Do you need more evidence against Barry Bonds? Honestly. Look, I know that many other players, including NSBB favorite Sammy Sosa, have seen huge changes in their bodies, but nobody has as much surrounding him as Barry Bonds does. Do I think Sammy took steroids? Yes. Am I fairly sure he did? No. Am I fairly sure Bonds took steroids? Yes. That's the difference. And yes, true baseball purists DO care that somebody who hit "365 home runs" took steroids. Brady Anderson, a man with only 210 home runs, was the first example of a guy that wasn't anywhere near a home run hitter that suddenly became a home run hitter when he hit 50 in 1996. Obviously in 1996 nobody was talking about steroids but, even as an 11 year old kid, I distinctly remember saying that it was weird that somebody whose previous high was just 21 home runs.

 

I care that steroids are removed from the game and thousands of other people do also. This is a big deal and it is something that needs to be addressed. I could give a rat's ass about Tim Raines and his coke because coke doesn't help you hit a ball farther so don't try to use that argument.

 

As long as I'm ranting, something else that ticks me off is that some people(re: Torii Hunter) claim that the only reason baseball is making such a big deal out of this is because Barry Bonds is black. I'm sorry but does Torii remember what happened to Mark McGwire when he pleaded the fifth in front of Congress all day last year? McGwire got skewered in the media for not saying anything and many people considered McGwire to have admitted his guilt. How about the 47835 replays of Rafael Palmeiro's finger pointing escapades after he tested positive last year?

 

The steroids problem is an issue that baseball needed to address because they waited too long to do it. Yes I'll admit that I loved the Summer of 98 when McGwire and Sammy were going homer for homer. But nobody knew how widespread steroids were. I just think it's pathetic that baseball needed Congress to step in and basically force them to implement a strong steroid policy. The whole steroid problem is why I hate Donald Fehr. He realized that there was a problem and refused to give in one bit. I don't think the situation would be as bad as it is had baseball put in the testing policy it currently has a couple years ago on its own. But the public views this as baseball only doing what it has to do to keep Congress of it's back.

 

Honestly I don't think baseball has done enough yet and I would like to see it do more. What that entails, I don't know. But more must be done and soon.

 

I also think Bonds used steroids and probably still uses HGH. I don't like Bonds at all, but you have to treat him fairly. If he doesn't fail a test, he should be left alone. Baseball's steroid policy is a joke. There should be blood testing and there should be like 8-10 random tests a year. If Bonds or anyone else has been/still can get around the current policy, I have no problem with them doing so because it's MLBs fault.

 

EDIT: I would say coke increases reflexes and focus.

[St.Paul Cub]

Most of you aren't from California and aren't subjected to all of the media attention that I have to read about out here. There are also all of the idiot Giants fans that still refuse to admit that Bonds took steroids. Maybe it's just that I have gotten so sick and tired of Bonds that I don't care that somebody threw a syringe on the field. I'm not saying that I'm going to do it, but I just don't feel bad for Bonds at all.

 

I can only imagine how much attention he gets on the media. ESPN's attention is bad enough.

[srbin84]

Yeah, I watched the show. The best part was when he broke down in tears and was whining like a baby.

[soccer10k]

Yeah, I watched the show. The best part was when he broke down in tears and was whining like a baby.

 

That was hilarious.

[goonys evil twin]

I hate reading all these ESPN personalities tell people they aren't allowed to judge this without watching the show.

 

I don't need to watch a puff piece about Dick Cheney on Fox News to know it's worthless journalism. I don't need to watch a Barry Bonds produced show about Barry Bonds to judge whether I'm getting the true story.

[BigbadB]

When I saw Barry Bonds cry, I took back all the evil thoughts I've had about him. I hope he breaks the HR record and fans everywhere rejoice and share in his accomplishments.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ah, just kidding. When Bonds started sobbing, I changed the channel.

[srbin84]

I hate reading all these ESPN personalities tell people they aren't allowed to judge this without watching the show.

 

I don't need to watch a puff piece about Dick Cheney on Fox News to know it's worthless journalism. I don't need to watch a Barry Bonds produced show about Barry Bonds to judge whether I'm getting the true story.

 

Actually, to be honest, the way talks about and says things only reaffirms my belief that he took steroids.

[pyromaniac]

Am I the only one who hates Bonds a little less after seeing that?

[soccer10k]

Am I the only one who hates Bonds a little less after seeing that?

 

I don't know if I can hate Barry Bonds any more than I already do.

[Coach C]

Fan Arrested after throwing object at Bonds.

 

This time, a toothpaste tube.

[CubinNY]

Am I the only one who hates Bonds a little less after seeing that?

 

I don't know if I can hate Barry Bonds any more than I already do.

 

I have pitty for Bonds, but he brought most of this scrutiny on himself.

 

Regardless, he is probably the best hitter any of us will ever see in our lifetime.

 

Unless that is, if Pujols continues on his remarkable track. The guy is nothing short of amazing.

[sweetpeteman]

I don't hate Bonds anymore, I feel sorry for him.

 

 

After all he's done to get where he is, he only has found hatred and anger towards him, and if he has used steroids at the level that has been claimed, which is highly likely, then he does not have a very pretty future to look forward too.

[Andy]

Fan Arrested after throwing object at Bonds.

 

This time, a toothpaste tube.

You get arrested, and all you can manage is a friggin' toothpaste tube? If you're going to be juvenile, at least come up with something clever like Syringe Boy in San Diego.

[srbin84]

Fan Arrested after throwing object at Bonds.

 

This time, a toothpaste tube.

You get arrested, and all you can manage is a friggin' toothpaste tube? If you're going to be juvenile, at least come up with something clever like Syringe Boy in San Diego.

 

How about a Swedish penis enlarger like from Austin Powers?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Fan Arrested after throwing object at Bonds.

 

This time, a toothpaste tube.

You get arrested, and all you can manage is a friggin' toothpaste tube? If you're going to be juvenile, at least come up with something clever like Syringe Boy in San Diego.

 

The article said it "resembled" a toothpaste tube. My guess is that it was labeled differently, otherwise the dude is a moran for throwing dental hygiene in Barry Bonds's face.

[Outshined_One]

Fan Arrested after throwing object at Bonds.

 

This time, a toothpaste tube.

You get arrested, and all you can manage is a friggin' toothpaste tube? If you're going to be juvenile, at least come up with something clever like Syringe Boy in San Diego.

 

The article said it "resembled" a toothpaste tube. My guess is that it was labeled differently, otherwise the dude is a moran for throwing dental hygiene in Barry Bonds's face.

 

Probably was cortisone, imo.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Fan Arrested after throwing object at Bonds.

 

This time, a toothpaste tube.

You get arrested, and all you can manage is a friggin' toothpaste tube? If you're going to be juvenile, at least come up with something clever like Syringe Boy in San Diego.

 

The article said it "resembled" a toothpaste tube. My guess is that it was labeled differently, otherwise the dude is a moran for throwing dental hygiene in Barry Bonds's face.

 

Probably was cortisone, imo.

 

I was thinking the guy came up with his own label. Get a toothpaste tube without much writing on it and write "THE CLEAR" with a sharpie, or something like that.