The latest on Woody (from da Muskat)

[Brian]

New mailbag (for those following the "neifi saved the cubs" saga she addressed that too.

 

Wood is continuing his rehab in Arizona and all the news has been positive. The Cubs are taking a conservative approach to his program because they want to avoid any setbacks. Hopefully, he'll be throwing off the mound for the first time when pitchers and catchers report this week in Mesa -- and if not, it's only because pitching coach Larry Rothschild is being careful. As for the bullpen vs. rotation issue, the goal is to get Wood back in the rotation. Manager Dusty Baker did say the Cubs might use the right-hander in the 'pen to build up arm strength if that seems like a good option. If you look at the Cubs' schedule, they could actually go with a three-man rotation for the first week and a half of the season because of off days. Wood may be 100 percent healthy on Opening Day, yet be placed on the disabled list simply because there's no need to rush his return.

 

And, belated congratulations to Wood and his wife Sarah, who welcomed their first son, Justin Dean, on Jan. 21.

 

3 MAN ROTATION ?????? Coming off the WBC I'd like to see Z get the extra rest.

[Derwood]

Start old geezer voice:

 

"In my day, all pitchers worked in a 3 man rotation. We didn't have any 'closers' or 'middle relievers'. We pitched 400 innings and 55 complete games and we liked it!"

 

/end old geezer voice

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Carrie votes on who makes the Hall of Fame. It's humiliating really.

[UK1679666180]

Wow, I think it's a bad move going with a 4 man rotation with all the off days, that the off days are an asset and should be treated as such for the staff to gradually get into the grind of the season. A 3 man rotation is just asking to burn out the staff sooner rather than later.

[rawaction]

I would start Wood on the DL too. Can't you retroactive it until whenever you want?

[cubsavant]

I would start Wood on the DL too. Can't you retroactive it until whenever you want?

 

You can retroactive it to the last time he pitched in a major league spring training game.

[MeatampPotatoesMan]

I'm glad Muskat doesn't make up the lineup card. She makes Dusty look like a freaking baseball genius.

[Andy]

Wow, I think it's a bad move going with a 4 man rotation with all the off days, that the off days are an asset and should be treated as such for the staff to gradually get into the grind of the season. A 3 man rotation is just asking to burn out the staff sooner rather than later.

In that case, Dusty's even more pumped about the idea.

[Irishoshea21]

Carrie votes on who makes the Hall of Fame. It's humiliating really.

 

You do realize that she is just a pawn for the cubs. http://www.cubs.com is a promotional website and everything is pro-cubs, everything is bright and good in cubsland. If you are looking for news, cubs.com should be the last place you visit. Take everything you read there with a grain of salt. Don't blame her, she is just doing her job. If she put more opinion and more negative spin on things (even if it is reality), she'd lose her job.

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Carrie votes on who makes the Hall of Fame. It's humiliating really.

 

You do realize that she is just a pawn for the cubs. http://www.cubs.com is a promotional website and everything is pro-cubs, everything is bright and good in cubsland. If you are looking for news, cubs.com should be the last place you visit. Take everything you read there with a grain of salt. Don't blame her, she is just doing her job. If she put more opinion and more negative spin on things (even if it is reality), she'd lose her job.

 

I completely realize she's an organizational shill, which makes it even more embarrassing that she helps decide who receives the most prestigious individual honor in the sport.

[rawaction]

I would start Wood on the DL too. Can't you retroactive it until whenever you want?

 

You can retroactive it to the last time he pitched in a major league spring training game.

 

Yeah, that's what I meant. I guess, "whenever you want" was a little extreme.

[minnesotacubsfan]

Carrie votes on who makes the Hall of Fame. It's humiliating really.

 

YOU TOOK THE WORDS OUTTA MY MOUTH

[Omar]

Something that took me more by surprise, is this argument.

How did Perez "save" the Cubs in 2005 (see Feb. 6 mailbag)? For starters, the team finished in fourth place, so I'd say they were more dead in the water than saved. More specifically, Neifi stepped in when Nomar Garciaparra got hurt but he hurt the team with his play more than anything else. The Cubs went into this off-season targeting good top of the order players because they were among the worst in baseball at the top of the order. Perez had the bulk of his at-bats at the top of the order. On offense, he was near the worst shortstop in all of baseball. Defensively, he is solid, but so was Jeromy Burnitz in right field. If anything, Neifi was lucky to get so many ABs -- he was in the right place at the right time.

-- Brent E., Bloomington, Ind.

 

OK, Perez didn't hit .350 with 30 homers and last year wasn't a fabulous season. Yes, he ranked third in the National League by grounding into 22 double plays. He also hit .280 in the No. 2 spot in the order, and was second in the NL in fielding percentage. Just imagine where they would have been without a guy who gave them competence at shortstop after Garciaparra went down. In other words, Perez wasn't the worst of the Cubs' problems.

 

Boy, its nice to see all Cub fans are not Edward K... and she doesn't even have a good rebuttal...

 

This awfully sounds like someone from NSBB...

[Andy]

Something that took me more by surprise, is this argument.

How did Perez "save" the Cubs in 2005 (see Feb. 6 mailbag)? For starters, the team finished in fourth place, so I'd say they were more dead in the water than saved. More specifically, Neifi stepped in when Nomar Garciaparra got hurt but he hurt the team with his play more than anything else. The Cubs went into this off-season targeting good top of the order players because they were among the worst in baseball at the top of the order. Perez had the bulk of his at-bats at the top of the order. On offense, he was near the worst shortstop in all of baseball. Defensively, he is solid, but so was Jeromy Burnitz in right field. If anything, Neifi was lucky to get so many ABs -- he was in the right place at the right time.

-- Brent E., Bloomington, Ind.

 

OK, Perez didn't hit .350 with 30 homers and last year wasn't a fabulous season. Yes, he ranked third in the National League by grounding into 22 double plays. He also hit .280 in the No. 2 spot in the order, and was second in the NL in fielding percentage. Just imagine where they would have been without a guy who gave them competence at shortstop after Garciaparra went down. In other words, Perez wasn't the worst of the Cubs' problems.

 

Boy, its nice to see all Cub fans are not Edward K... and she doesn't even have a good rebuttal...

 

This awfully sounds like someone from NSBB...

I'm surprised she even chose to answer the question.

[Balsa]

To think we had Corey and Neifi at the top of the order so often...with such horrible OBP.....

 

By the way, in case anyone cares, that is a textbook example of a strawman fallacy, one of the more common types of fallacious reasoning.

 

Google Search Says:

 

The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of "reasoning" has the following pattern:

 

1. Person A has position X.

2. Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).

3. Person B attacks position Y.

4. Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.

 

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself. One might as well expect an attack on a poor drawing of a person to hurt the person.

 

:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Chris]

Boy, its nice to see all Cub fans are not Edward K... and she doesn't even have a good rebuttal...

 

This awfully sounds like someone from NSBB...

 

It looks like it was!

[UBlink]

To think we had Corey and Neifi at the top of the order so often...with such horrible OBP.....

 

By the way, in case anyone cares, that is a textbook example of a strawman fallacy, one of the more common types of fallacious reasoning.

 

Google Search Says:

 

The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position. This sort of "reasoning" has the following pattern:

 

1. Person A has position X.

2. Person B presents position Y (which is a distorted version of X).

3. Person B attacks position Y.

4. Therefore X is false/incorrect/flawed.

 

This sort of "reasoning" is fallacious because attacking a distorted version of a position simply does not constitute an attack on the position itself. One might as well expect an attack on a poor drawing of a person to hurt the person.

 

:lol: :lol: :lol:

 

Without the strawman fallacy it wouldn't take nearly as long to keep up with these forums.

[rawaction]

Not surprisingly, that very intelligent question came from Bloomington, IN. The Harvard of the midwest!

[ConstableRabbit]

Not surprisingly, that very intelligent question came from Bloomington, IN. The Harvard of the midwest!

 

Ahem

[badger1679666666]

Not surprisingly, that very intelligent question came from Bloomington, IN. The Harvard of the midwest!

 

Ahem

 

Ahem.

 

(Madison, WI.)

[jyoung55]

Not surprisingly, that very intelligent question came from Bloomington, IN. The Harvard of the midwest!

 

If by Harvard you mean a good place to get drugs and hang out with hippies and loose girls. :wink: :lol:

 

Not that I would know ANYTHING about any of those.

[ConstableRabbit]

Not surprisingly, that very intelligent question came from Bloomington, IN. The Harvard of the midwest!

 

Ahem

 

Ahem.

 

(Madison, WI.)

 

:lol: as long as it's in the big10.. screw uchicago and washu.

[Shawon12]

Carrie votes on who makes the Hall of Fame. It's humiliating really.

 

You do realize that she is just a pawn for the cubs. http://www.cubs.com is a promotional website and everything is pro-cubs, everything is bright and good in cubsland. If you are looking for news, cubs.com should be the last place you visit. Take everything you read there with a grain of salt. Don't blame her, she is just doing her job. If she put more opinion and more negative spin on things (even if it is reality), she'd lose her job.

 

Agree, however, I've found that other teams web site beat writers are much more independant and critical. Carrie is one of those writers who will write something critical only after the player is gone. i.e Sosa, Patterson, but will nbt challenge them in the present

[MembersOnlyJacket]

How did Perez "save" the Cubs in 2005 (see Feb. 6 mailbag)? For starters, the team finished in fourth place, so I'd say they were more dead in the water than saved. More specifically, Neifi stepped in when Nomar Garciaparra got hurt but he hurt the team with his play more than anything else. The Cubs went into this off-season targeting good top of the order players because they were among the worst in baseball at the top of the order. Perez had the bulk of his at-bats at the top of the order. On offense, he was near the worst shortstop in all of baseball. Defensively, he is solid, but so was Jeromy Burnitz in right field. If anything, Neifi was lucky to get so many ABs -- he was in the right place at the right time.

-- Brent E., Bloomington, Ind.

 

OK, Perez didn't hit .350 with 30 homers and last year wasn't a fabulous season. Yes, he ranked third in the National League by grounding into 22 double plays. He also hit .280 in the No. 2 spot in the order, and was second in the NL in fielding percentage. Just imagine where they would have been without a guy who gave them competence at shortstop after Garciaparra went down. In other words, Perez wasn't the worst of the Cubs' problems.

 

Her writing is the type I'd expect from a beat writer covering a college sports team. College beat writers are instructed to do their best in terms of being overly critical and putting down a student-athlete. They are not professionals and sports is not their livelyhood. This lady is writing for the Cubs and is so defensive when it comes to this team. These guys are athletes paid millions to perform at a high level in MLB.

 

Just imagine where they would have been with Ronny Cedeno, or Nomar, or Perez. Yep, I know, probably 4th place.

[Shilzzz]

back to the original subject, what would be so bad about just letting kerry rest for another month and a half, rehab and come back after the asb? i mean, he's going to get hurt at some time in a full year, maybe in half a year, fully healthy down the stretch... yeah. rip me apart. it's just hard to imagine him being at full health ever.