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As a Sox fan, nothing else will ever matter again. I did the one thing I often wondered if I would ever do.

 

that's about it, just win once before I die.

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completely agree.

 

bill simmons always talks about the 5 year grace period or whatever, but if the cubs win, they have a permanent grace period

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completely agree.

 

bill simmons always talks about the 5 year grace period or whatever, but if the cubs win, they have a permanent grace period

 

word. I really don't think I'll be as big of a Cubs fan as I am now, if the Cubs ever win the world series title. I'll just be in eternal bliss for the next 50 years.

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completely agree.

 

bill simmons always talks about the 5 year grace period or whatever, but if the cubs win, they have a permanent grace period

Thirded. I never have a right to whine ever again if they win because so many have unfortunately lived their whole life through without seeing it. :?

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completely agree.

 

bill simmons always talks about the 5 year grace period or whatever, but if the cubs win, they have a permanent grace period

Thirded. I never have a right to whine ever again if they win because so many have unfortunately lived their whole life through without seeing it. :?

 

In the words of my friend Sean Carey, Sox fan, talking to some freshman in the dining hall, "You can do anything you want today, you're a world champion. Look at me, I'm a senior, I don't have a meal plan, I'm supposed to be in class, but I'm sitting in the dining hall eating for free and drinking a 40 of Icehouse. And why, cause I'm a world champion"

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Personally, I'd imagine that four years of losing after a championship would negate most of the positive effects. Some of that would never be lost, but there is nothing that would make a bunch of '99-type seasons in a row easy to swallow.
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Personally, I'd imagine that four years of losing after a championship would negate most of the positive effects. Some of that would never be lost, but there is nothing that would make a bunch of '99-type seasons in a row easy to swallow.

 

i doubt that id be able to get all that excited about the team to get sad.

 

if the cubs want to spend like crazy and win the world series and then sell off every decent player, fine by me.

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Personally, I'd imagine that four years of losing after a championship would negate most of the positive effects. Some of that would never be lost, but there is nothing that would make a bunch of '99-type seasons in a row easy to swallow.

 

not for long time diehard fans in my opinion.

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But do those longtime diehard fans remain diehard fans of the team or do they back away when the World Series title comes? I personally don't see a championship changing my attachment to the team, for better or for worse.
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But do those longtime diehard fans remain diehard fans of the team or do they back away when the World Series title comes? I personally don't see a championship changing my attachment to the team, for better or for worse.

 

it frees you of the baggage, and thusly you become a little more sane when you're rooting for your team.

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but there is nothing that would make a bunch of '99-type seasons in a row easy to swallow.

 

Was '99 when they lost 13 in a row to begin the season? I remember sliding down to front row seats behind the Cubs dugout right before the 11th loss in Shea screaming, "Today's the day Riggs! Get the boys up." And getting blank stairs from the Cub players. What a pathetic bunch.

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but there is nothing that would make a bunch of '99-type seasons in a row easy to swallow.

 

Was '99 when they lost 13 in a row to begin the season? I remember sliding down to front row seats behind the Cubs dugout right before the 11th loss in Shea screaming, "Today's the day Riggs! Get the boys up." And getting blank stairs from the Cub players. What a pathetic bunch.

 

1997

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but there is nothing that would make a bunch of '99-type seasons in a row easy to swallow.

 

Was '99 when they lost 13 in a row to begin the season? I remember sliding down to front row seats behind the Cubs dugout right before the 11th loss in Shea screaming, "Today's the day Riggs! Get the boys up." And getting blank stairs from the Cub players. What a pathetic bunch.

 

1997

 

Thanks. I think??

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but there is nothing that would make a bunch of '99-type seasons in a row easy to swallow.

 

Was '99 when they lost 13 in a row to begin the season? I remember sliding down to front row seats behind the Cubs dugout right before the 11th loss in Shea screaming, "Today's the day Riggs! Get the boys up." And getting blank stairs from the Cub players. What a pathetic bunch.

 

1997

 

Thanks. I think??

 

yes, thanks is correct

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Didn't we actually have a very solid start in 99 and then we fell off the face of the earth?

 

hey, at least we "got out of the gate" well. :roll:

 

Yep. That's the key to success you know. Get off to a good start and the rest is smooth sailing.

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Didn't we actually have a very solid start in 99 and then we fell off the face of the earth?

Either 99 or 2000, we were only 8.5 out of 1st in late July/early August then did the world's biggest free fall. I vividly remember talking to my friend about how we could catch St. Louis from 8.5 back in the next couple of months.

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'99 I remember we were 32-23. Lance Johnson got picked off by Randy Johnson to end the game. We were then swept by the White Sox at home, and things just kept getting worse from there.
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'99 I remember we were 32-23. Lance Johnson got picked off by Randy Johnson to end the game. We were then swept by the White Sox at home, and things just kept getting worse from there.

 

I vividly remember that as well. The Cubs were rolling right up until that game. One-dog got hurt shortly thereafter, didn't he?

 

I also remember the August run though - the Cubs were hot and almost back in the race - we were flying from SFO to Chicago for the series against St. Louis while the Cubs were playing someone else. We left our house and the Cubs were leading like 5-1. By the time we got to the airport, the Cubs had blown that game and then got swept in that series. They won the game we went to but lost the other two against St. Louis and that was that. I remember this vividly because that was my wife's first trip to Wrigley and she was just learning the life of a Cubs fan.

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It's easy to say 1 WS would be enough for the rest of your lives. But if they win this year, I won't dismiss failure as inevitable and acceptable until I die. If they win this year and never again, then that means my kids (who aren't close to be conceived yet, let alone born) won't ever see them win, and that would not be acceptable.

 

I'd probably give them the 5 year grace period, but I can't see much more than that. The Bears won in 85/86, the first and only time in my life, so far. But I didn't wait until 90/91 to start being upset with their failure to follow through with another championship, let alone getting close. And I wouldn't give the Cubs more leeway just because of their pathetic history. To me, that's akin to saying you have to be happy with the success of the MacPhail/Hendry era because it's been greater than any other era the Cubs have had since I was born. Lowered expectations is not my thing.

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Either 99 or 2000, we were only 8.5 out of 1st in late July/early August then did the world's biggest free fall. I vividly remember talking to my friend about how we could catch St. Louis from 8.5 back in the next couple of months.

 

That was 2000. 1999 was absolute hell from June onward.

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