Tejada wants to be traded

[CuseCubFan69]

I think he is now slightly below average. I would trade any cubs prospects for him in a heartbeat. We'd still need a RF but we could probably live with Bradley or Floyd out there and have a very good team. If you're not willing to trade Cubs prospects, is there a can't miss in the bunch, for a shot at winning the world series, you're not trying. I would keep Walker of course.

 

Imagine Tejada and Bradley? That would make up for Bradleys lack of power and he could bat second unless they did keep Walker.

 

Pierre

Walker

Lee

Tejada

Ramirez

Bradley

Murton

Barrett

[Transmogrified Tiger]

You shouldn't be comparing Tejada's OPS to Abreu's OPS, but the difference in OPS between the Cedeno/Nefury two-headed monster versus Tejada and Mid-Tier corner OF versus Abreu.

 

Exactly. Like it or not, a SS with an .840 OPS is more valuable than an OF 100 points higher. That's the way the market works. Supply and demand. That being said, I'm on the fence on trading Williams, Pie, Hill and Cedeno for him. Funny, if the Cubs still had Pinto and Nolasco, that decision isn't as hard. I probably wouldn't trade that much though.

 

I really don't know how we could say that we were in better shape to win both short-term and long if we traded all 4 for Tejada.

 

We didn't.

 

Well you and I didn't, but several here are making the claim for that.

[don_kessinger_was_good]

Ronny Cedeno and Felix Pie for Tejada? Sold! Where do I sign up?

 

I'll throw in Rich Hill too. And Patterson if anyone would actually want him. And I'm sure Baltimore could use a reliever, couldn't they? I'll give them their choice of Roberto Novoa or Michael Wuertz. Maybe they need a backup catcher, too? Geovanny Soto, he's yours.

 

Um, yes, you could say the Cubs have a need and I'd pay whatever the price to get it done. Tejada would hit between Lee and Ramirez, if they do the rumored Walker for Bradley trade, Bradley hits 2nd behind Pierre, and that is one helluva 1-7 my friend (Murton and Barrett 6-7). You could actually live with Neifi in that lineup hitting 8th and not worry about it.

 

And all it would take is to give up some of the precious "prospects" (though I admit I like Cedeno)....

[dorjecub]

Does anybody else think that this is just a ploy by Miggie to energize the O's front office?

[stitchface]

I think he is now slightly below average. I would trade any cubs prospects for him in a heartbeat. We'd still need a RF but we could probably live with Bradley or Floyd out there and have a very good team. If you're not willing to trade Cubs prospects, is there a can't miss in the bunch, for a shot at winning the world series, you're not trying. I would keep Walker of course.

 

There's a difference between ANY prospect and the 4 best, 2 days after trading your only other close to the majors talent. The Cubs create a hole in the rotation (and backup in the rotation), and still haven't filled their biggest hole. Now they have $12M less to fill them with.

 

sign clemens for a year. :D Hell, we don't need 5 aces - look who the cardinals had at the back of their rotation the last couple of years. Yea, it may hurt long-term, but do you really think any of those four are going to be irreplaceable long-term? Do you think a team that feels compelled to trade a 2.5 player like Walker is going to see the value of young players? With this management, go for it now. Perhaps we can get some A ball arms in return.

[rawaction]

I think he is now slightly below average. I would trade any cubs prospects for him in a heartbeat. We'd still need a RF but we could probably live with Bradley or Floyd out there and have a very good team. If you're not willing to trade Cubs prospects, is there a can't miss in the bunch, for a shot at winning the world series, you're not trying. I would keep Walker of course.

 

There's a difference between ANY prospect and the 4 best, 2 days after trading your only other close to the majors talent. The Cubs create a hole in the rotation (and backup in the rotation), and still haven't filled their biggest hole. Now they have $12M less to fill them with.

 

sign clemens for a year. :D Hell, we don't need 5 aces - look who the cardinals had at the back of their rotation the last couple of years. Yea, it may hurt long-term, but do you really think any of those four are going to be irreplaceable long-term? Do you think a team that feels compelled to trade a 2.5 player like Walker is going to see the value of young players? With this management, go for it now. Perhaps we can get some A ball arms in return.

 

That's why I'm torn. I wouldn't be upset about that deal. But it wouldn't put this team over the top.

[vance_the_cubs_fan]

I'll make the bold prediction that Tejada will not be traded.

[CheeseHead Cubs Fan]

I'll make the bold prediction that Tejada will not be traded.

 

You live life on the edge man...scary stuff!

[CardsFanInChiTown]

You gotta love it when the face of your franchise wants out.

[stitchface]

I think he is now slightly below average. I would trade any cubs prospects for him in a heartbeat. We'd still need a RF but we could probably live with Bradley or Floyd out there and have a very good team. If you're not willing to trade Cubs prospects, is there a can't miss in the bunch, for a shot at winning the world series, you're not trying. I would keep Walker of course.

 

There's a difference between ANY prospect and the 4 best, 2 days after trading your only other close to the majors talent. The Cubs create a hole in the rotation (and backup in the rotation), and still haven't filled their biggest hole. Now they have $12M less to fill them with.

 

sign clemens for a year. :D Hell, we don't need 5 aces - look who the cardinals had at the back of their rotation the last couple of years. Yea, it may hurt long-term, but do you really think any of those four are going to be irreplaceable long-term? Do you think a team that feels compelled to trade a 2.5 player like Walker is going to see the value of young players? With this management, go for it now. Perhaps we can get some A ball arms in return.

 

That's why I'm torn. I wouldn't be upset about that deal. But it wouldn't put this team over the top.

 

I think it would Raw - it would almost certainly put the cubs in the playoffs and I'd take my chances from there. Ok, we still need healthy pitching but that is a must in any scenario. That's a pretty good and balanced lineup. Tejada isn't dunn but with a producer 1-8, you are going to score some runs. I would go:

 

Pierre

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Tejada

Bradley

Murton

Barrett

[stitchface]

I'll make the bold prediction that Tejada will not be traded.

 

I agree.

[CardsFanInChiTown]

I think he is now slightly below average. I would trade any cubs prospects for him in a heartbeat. We'd still need a RF but we could probably live with Bradley or Floyd out there and have a very good team. If you're not willing to trade Cubs prospects, is there a can't miss in the bunch, for a shot at winning the world series, you're not trying. I would keep Walker of course.

 

There's a difference between ANY prospect and the 4 best, 2 days after trading your only other close to the majors talent. The Cubs create a hole in the rotation (and backup in the rotation), and still haven't filled their biggest hole. Now they have $12M less to fill them with.

 

sign clemens for a year. :D Hell, we don't need 5 aces - look who the cardinals had at the back of their rotation the last couple of years. Yea, it may hurt long-term, but do you really think any of those four are going to be irreplaceable long-term? Do you think a team that feels compelled to trade a 2.5 player like Walker is going to see the value of young players? With this management, go for it now. Perhaps we can get some A ball arms in return.

 

That's why I'm torn. I wouldn't be upset about that deal. But it wouldn't put this team over the top.

 

I think it would Raw - it would almost certainly put the cubs in the playoffs and I'd take my chances from there. Ok, we still need healthy pitching but that is a must in any scenario. That's a pretty good and balanced lineup. Tejada isn't dunn but with a producer 1-8, you are going to score some runs. I would go:

 

Pierre

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Tejada

Bradley

Murton

Barrett

 

What do you trade bradley for?

[Transmogrified Tiger]

I think he is now slightly below average. I would trade any cubs prospects for him in a heartbeat. We'd still need a RF but we could probably live with Bradley or Floyd out there and have a very good team. If you're not willing to trade Cubs prospects, is there a can't miss in the bunch, for a shot at winning the world series, you're not trying. I would keep Walker of course.

 

There's a difference between ANY prospect and the 4 best, 2 days after trading your only other close to the majors talent. The Cubs create a hole in the rotation (and backup in the rotation), and still haven't filled their biggest hole. Now they have $12M less to fill them with.

 

sign clemens for a year. :D Hell, we don't need 5 aces - look who the cardinals had at the back of their rotation the last couple of years. Yea, it may hurt long-term, but do you really think any of those four are going to be irreplaceable long-term? Do you think a team that feels compelled to trade a 2.5 player like Walker is going to see the value of young players? With this management, go for it now. Perhaps we can get some A ball arms in return.

 

That's why I'm torn. I wouldn't be upset about that deal. But it wouldn't put this team over the top.

 

I think it would Raw - it would almost certainly put the cubs in the playoffs and I'd take my chances from there. Ok, we still need healthy pitching but that is a must in any scenario. That's a pretty good and balanced lineup. Tejada isn't dunn but with a producer 1-8, you are going to score some runs. I would go:

 

Pierre

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Tejada

Bradley

Murton

Barrett

 

How are you going to get Bradley or Floyd if you trade Williams, Pie, Hill, and Cedeno for Tejada? And what do you do about the rotation?

[rawaction]

I think he is now slightly below average. I would trade any cubs prospects for him in a heartbeat. We'd still need a RF but we could probably live with Bradley or Floyd out there and have a very good team. If you're not willing to trade Cubs prospects, is there a can't miss in the bunch, for a shot at winning the world series, you're not trying. I would keep Walker of course.

 

There's a difference between ANY prospect and the 4 best, 2 days after trading your only other close to the majors talent. The Cubs create a hole in the rotation (and backup in the rotation), and still haven't filled their biggest hole. Now they have $12M less to fill them with.

 

sign clemens for a year. :D Hell, we don't need 5 aces - look who the cardinals had at the back of their rotation the last couple of years. Yea, it may hurt long-term, but do you really think any of those four are going to be irreplaceable long-term? Do you think a team that feels compelled to trade a 2.5 player like Walker is going to see the value of young players? With this management, go for it now. Perhaps we can get some A ball arms in return.

 

That's why I'm torn. I wouldn't be upset about that deal. But it wouldn't put this team over the top.

 

I think it would Raw - it would almost certainly put the cubs in the playoffs and I'd take my chances from there. Ok, we still need healthy pitching but that is a must in any scenario. That's a pretty good and balanced lineup. Tejada isn't dunn but with a producer 1-8, you are going to score some runs. I would go:

 

Pierre

Walker

Lee

Ramirez

Tejada

Bradley

Murton

Barrett

 

How are you going to get Bradley or Floyd if you trade Williams, Pie, Hill, and Cedeno for Tejada? And what do you do about the rotation?

 

I'll sum it up in 5 words.

 

Bobby Brownlie Outlaw Curve Returns

[stitchface]

I don't know! Bradley I think you can get - perhaps you trade walker and live with Neifi at 2b (then you have one blackhole and he should play SS). Rotation is:

Prior

Zambrano

Wood

Maddux

Rusch

 

Give Welly or Wuertz a few starts until wood is ready. hell, that expensive pen ought to be able to eat a few innings. Or else you hit FA market and get yourself a fill-in pitcher. There are likely some values out there.

[Roast]

Holy Crap, If we got him...wow.

[8-8-88]

I would wet myself. Twice.

[Andy]

1 in 100 chance we get Tejada, and I might be being optimistic.

[8-8-88]

1 in 100 chance we get Tejada, and I might be being optimistic.

 

true, but it's fun to think about.

[Sweet Swinging Billy]

Oh man, this is too good to be true. In my book, Tejada is the best SS in all of baseball! I was so bummed that we didn't get him a couple of years ago. Whatever the O's want, give it to them! I'll start praying my Novena prayer tonight that the Cubs can land the best clutch SS in baseball.

[tgk]

He's not going anywhere in my opinion, but I do have one quesion. Does he have a no trade clause? If so, even though he's requesting the trade, he could really force the O's hand, a la Griffey with Seattle.

[fromthestretch]

In my book, Tejada is the best SS in all of baseball!

 

The best shortstop in all of baseball is currently playing third base.

[KatJ]

I'll start praying my Novena prayer tonight that the Cubs can land the best clutch SS in baseball.

 

Save the prayers for a good starting pitcher. Check my reasoning in the locked version of this thread in "Baseball Discussions".

 

Miguel Tejada

[SeldomSeen]

1 in 100 chance we get Tejada, and I might be being optimistic.

 

"So you're sayin' there's a chance!!!"

[JC]

 

I'll sum it up in 5 words.

 

Bobby Brownlie Outlaw Curve Returns

 

:cheers: