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  1. If the other starting pitcher came via a trade and he is a low cost controlled pitcher and they added Hoskins too, then I see that as a 90 win team. Trade PCA for the young pitcher and maybe get a solid pen arm as well and/or a third baseman. PCA for Cabrera, Puk, Burger or Ryan, Jax, Polanco? Something like that? Maybe add someone if need be. These are just examples of possible deals. Morel is the DH. IMO that is a 90 win team. And I am not sure they need Hader at his cost.
  2. Pretty much everything yiu said about Toronto yiu could say about Chicago. Chicago is amazing in the summer. Great food, theater, museums,
  3. I’m not saying the Cubs are better team or a better option. I am saying they are on par with the Blue Jays. So if they for him the did better convincing or offer a better contract. Dodger have a built in advantage because they always win and they are in the same city he has been in for years. That might be too much to overcome.
  4. I will say this, if it isn’t the Cubs it better be the Dodgers. I can except that. I will believe there was nothing they could do to change his mind. But if it is the Blue Jays I would question why the Cubs couldn’t do more. Easy to say the Dodgers have more going for them then the Cubs. I have a hard time believing the Cubs FO couldn’t convince Otani they have more going for them than the Blue Jays.
  5. Very true. If he wants a sure playoff experience he goes to the Dodgers. However we don’t know what else he values. And I am also certain the Cubs can make a case to him that with him they will be very good. If he loves Chicago, guys like Darvish and Suzucki talk it up, he loves the park and the Cubs offer is right up there with what he wants, both in money and structure, I wouldn’t worry about him not coming here because he isn’t sure they can win.
  6. I don’t know how much it helps to show Otani they are committed to winning, but it can’t hurt. I am sure they aren’t going to make a deal just to prove a point to Otani. But if they get the right deal prior to Otani signing I am sure they will make it and let him know they did so as confirmation they are trying to put a winning team in the field in 24’. In the end the most money or bet structured contract to the players wishes typically wins out, however.
  7. Paredes is going to come with a very high cost. And he just isn’t someone I trust. At least not at his cost to acquire.
  8. I agree getting Otani or Soto is a huge plus for the off season. But, there are still many avenues to building 90+win team next year, through FA and trades. They would have to go over the LT this year, but probably be back under in 25’. All is not lost if they don’t get Otani, Soto or Yamamoto, but the path gets more narrow.
  9. This is a discussion for another thread. And a very polarizing topic. I will choose not to get involved in this one.
  10. Cease actually has 2 years left. I don’t think the Cubs trade for him, but he isn’t a one year guy. So far the only 1 year guys mentioned are Glasnow and Bieber(a little) That sort of guy makes sense with Ohtani. Whether anyone wants either or not, is another discussion.
  11. Cease to the Cubs is probably marginally more likely than Gilbert. Sox aren’t going to trade him to the Cubs unless it is an extreme overpay.
  12. Not a fair comparison. Glasnow will cost a lot less as far as prospects go. If they are going to aim high and lose prospects I would take Gilbert over either of those guys. If they are going to go as far as Cease and what the Sox would want for him, give me Gilbert.
  13. Cubs aren’t getting Cease. I don’t see the Sox trading him back to us.
  14. Exactly. And they have $50M+ coming off the books the following year. And if part of that $277M is on a guy who is here only 1 year(Glasnow, Bieber, Hoskins) that comes off as well. They should go in this year.
  15. Sounds like you were around in the 60’s and 70’s. My first heartbreak was the 69 cubs. As a 9 year old fan I was very into baseball. Loved Santo and the entire team. That was a bad summer. Sucks Santo wasn’t around to get into the hall or for the Cubs finally winning.
  16. Wait until your childhood favorites are dead. Then talk to me. Santo was my favorite player which explains the 10 at the end of my name. At least Williams and Fergie are still alive. Banks had seen his best years by the time I was all in.
  17. So, just curious, if instead of Candelario they sign Bellinger. Then they trade PCA for a stud young controlled young pitcher and they keep Morel wouldn’t this team still be the favorite in the central? Maybe 3rd and DH is filled with Madrigal/Wisdom/Mastroboni/Morel. Or maybe they make a smaller trade for Solano and let him play 3rd. Morel just is the DH. I think that team still wins. Yes, it’s not what I want. Might be plan C, but still a good off season. And if the Yankees are going to get Soto in a trade doesn’t that take them out of Ohtani and Bellinger? Doesn’t that raise the chances of at least Bellinger back to the Cubs?
  18. I get that. I am not a prospect horder. I am fine with them moving guys out because a new one will be in. And Gilbert is a guy who makes sense to deal for. But the cost will be very high.
  19. Yep, I could see as much as 25 starts and 160 innings if his surgery fixed what the primary issue has been for him since he has been in the big leagues. Maybe he misses a few starts do to spasms, then einf careful with him, etc…. But no reason to think his injuries should continue. Now if it was a consideration for a long term deal, I might pass. But for one year I feel he is a good high reward risk.
  20. I know they aren’t going close to $300M. But they have to go over the LT this year. It makes too much sense as long as they are back under in 25’. That said, for me, I think it is wrong for a large market to worry about that sort of thing. But based on past experience, I am certainTR won’t live over the LT too long even if they go over in 24(which IMO, they have to).
  21. I think the difference in cost between those two would be like going an extra marathon not a mile. But sure, Gilbert would be the much better addition.
  22. I agree with you Bertz. My question withbGlasnow is his injury history. Has it always been shoulder, elbow related? If so isn’t all of that a precursor to eventual TJS? And if that is the case and he had the surgery and is now back should he really be judged on his past injuries? If they were all related to his arm and his arm is now stable, why can’t he throw 170+ innings next year. After the surgery and he started pitching in 23’ how many starts did he miss? tbf, I honestly don’t know what all his issues have been. That is why I am asking. But if they were all arm related and now the arm is sound, why is it such a concern about him for 1 year? I wouldn’t sign him to a 5 year deal, but we are talking about 1 year. as for the Ohtani concerns, I see it differently. I see a guy like Glasnow or another pitcher on the last year of his deal making perfect sense. Ohtani can take his spot in 25’.
  23. But they could go higher as long as who they take is on a one year deal and his salary would drop off as well in 25’. So using your numbers at $277M if they know Glasnow is gone after this year or even Bieber at $12M they could conceivably go to over $300M with Glasnow and around $290M with Bieber and still be under in 25’. Now, I know they are not doing that. TR wouldn’t sign off on that. I am just saying they could and only be over the LT for one year. Or if they did go to $277M or $280M this year but a portion of that is to either Glasnow, Bieber or another guy they plan on having for just next year, that drops off in 25’ too. So that might have $65-$75 dropping of in 25’. Enoughto be well under and even make some moves where they might add salary in 25’ and still be under.
  24. See what I mean. So easy to replace I don’t even know how to spell his name. Thanks for pointing that out.
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