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  1. Cost saving I 100% agree with. But it isn’t just Bellinger versus PCA. It is Bellinger plus who you trade PVA for. Maybe 1 year of Glasnow, 3 years of Lowe and maybe 3 or more years of someone else from TB versus PCA and hopefully spending money to fill other holes, since you saved so much. Another option for PCA is Clase, Bieber and Naydor( as another example). Maybe PCA and Wesneski? Polanco, Ryan and Jax.? Cabrera, Burger, Puk? In all options PCA is the main piece going back. I understand all might it be available. I am just giving ideas of who actually matches up in valuation to PCA or PCA with a small extra. If the Cubs believe Bellinger can stay a solid offensive player and his market drops to something like Nimmo or Swanson got, he could make sense. But not at $300m or even $200M tbh.
  2. I hope so. But I wouldn’t bet on it.
  3. What is a bit much? What superstar is going to sign for 6 years when every other team is offering 10 years? Hell even a guy like Bogaerts got 10+ years. Now that is stupid. I am talking about the real stars. Harper, Machado, Ohtani, Seager, Judge, Soto…. How do you get those guys for 5 or 6 years when people offer 10? Unless the Cubs don’t want those guys they have to offer the years. And I am fine with anyone, including you, who isn’t comfortable with gicing those years. I do understand it. But you have to also understand they aren’t getting those guys without the extra years. Also, don’t bring pitchers into the discussion. I have no issue with the Cubs or any team not giving a pitcher 10 years. If Yamamoto gets that type a deal I am fine with the Cubs not going there with him. To tell you the truth, I am not thrilled with the idea of 10+ year deals either. But I know that is the cost of doing business with those stars.
  4. I go back and forth on Bellinger. I know people have concerns about his hard hit rate, EV, barrel rate and all of that. But part of that is because with 2 strikes he made a conscience effort to just slap the ball. That would cause issues with all of that. He did produce. And sometimes guys just produce bette than their underlying numbers. That said, I have no interest in him if he is talking $300M. Honestly not even interested in the $200M plus range. But if they were able to do a Swanson like deal AND they kept him in centerfield, I wouldn’t mind having him back. Of course, this would mean moving PCA. And I would be fine with that as long as he brought back at least 2 quality major league players with maybe 3 years of control left. Maybe to a team looking to rebuild for a player or two staring to get expensive. If he isn’t going to be in center and/or someone else is willing to give him $200M+ I am fine with not getting him.
  5. Agreed. Happy it is over or overjoyed they won the bidding! But difference in degree of happy😅
  6. Actually this is what people do during the off season. They comment as things are happening. There are pages and pages of Ohtani talk and he hasn’t even signed yet. Suggesting the words Hoyer used about winning the off season frustrating me is exactly what is being discussed now. Yes, in February things will be different. And maybe Jed’s words don’t match his actions. I have acknowledged that. Maybe he will be aggressive, maybe we will get Ohtani. My comment is strictly based on what he said.
  7. But is that realistic? To get the superstar you have to offer what others are offering. If the industry is offering 10-12 year deals how do you expect the Cubs to get that star player offering 5-6? I am not particularly crazy about giving out 10+ year deals either. But if the jndustry is offering that, and you want a guy bad enough you have to be willing to pony up like the others.
  8. Look, everyone who wants to defend Jed and suggest there is still a long way to go in the off season can. I have no problem with that. And you are all correct, there is a lot of time and the Cubs could make big moves. It isn’t a big deal he hasn’t done anything yet. My frustration comes more from his words than his lack of action so far. He did say winning the off season ends up being a curse rather than a blessing often. Now, maybe I am jumping the gun on that statement. Maybe I am reading too much into that statement. But to me, anyway, that is his way of preparing the Cubs fanbase for an off season that will not be as aggressive as most of us hoped. I would love to come back on this topic sometime right before spring training and say I was wrong for overreacting. I would love to say I let my frustration get the better of me and I jumped to conclusions. I want the Cubs to prove me wrong on what I thought he meant by those words. But IMO this off season is going to be similar to the last one where in the end the Cubs will put a decent team on the field who should win low 80’s again, and if they overachieved maybe win 90 and get in the playoffs. I was just hoping for (and may still get)more.
  9. So you never want the top super star players in the Cubs. I already knew that. Luckily for you Ricketts and Hoyer agree with you. They are very happy to be an average team
  10. Not basing my comments on his actions. More the words in his interview. But maybe he was playing possum and has a grand plan. I hope so. Who knows, maybe then Ohtani dream isn’t dead.
  11. As a major market team they don’t always have to bow out of contracts when they feel the overall cost is greater than the overall value. Sometimes major market teams have to spend to get a star they know at the end of the contract might not look great. Harper is a perfect example. He was been awesome as a Phillie. And they have had 2 very fun years. Eventually he won’t be worth his money. But right now he makes them very good. Actually Lester is also an example of this. The last few years of his contract he was t worth the money. But they won a damn WS with him so who cares?
  12. I am definitely more in the camp that the issue is more Ricketts than Hoyer. I think if it was Hoyer and Ricketts wanted him to spend whatever is necessary, and he didn’t, he would be fired. It is still early and maybe they do end up putting a 90+ win team in the field this year. Doesn’t have to be Ohtani or Soto. But if they do not and constantly lose out on guys to lesser teams the FO/ownership has to be held accountable. No excuse not to be good in 24’, PERIOD!
  13. Exactly! That is my point.
  14. This argument gets old. The Cubs are a major market. They have money to spend. In fact the only advantage they have over the lower market teams is their ability to spend. If/when they choose to not do it they are deciding to not take advantage of the knee advantage they have. I am not suggesting they need to throw money around foolishly. But they can decide they want a guy and get him NO MATTER THE COST! They can be aggressive and get the best players every so often instead of saddling for who will take their deals. Sure teams spend and then don’t win. So what. If you are a top revenue team that shouldn’t stop you from spending. Teams like the Padres do have to pull back, because they aren’t major market. But the Cubs shouldn’t have to. Now, that doesn’t mean I blame him for not getting Ohtani or Soto. If he gave a competitive offer and Ohtani just didn’t want to play here, I guess there is nothing he could do about it. And, IMO, the Yankees overpaid for Soto. So I am okay with that. But they should still spend. They should be over the LT this year by either signing a few other guys and my trading for guys who might come with some salary. And I just don’t think they will based on Jed already basically conceding the off season.
  15. Right now I would be happy if the Cubs qualified for a participation trophy for the off season.
  16. I wouldn’t hate Naydor and Bieber for the right price. I think Clase would cost too many assets. And I wouldn’t want Bieber and Naydor to be the off season. They would need more. Glasnow and Hoskins maybe. Then Morel does play 3rd? Not super exciting.
  17. So until Boras actually does extend someone on his last year (Harper would qualify here) I am sticking with the thought Soto will be available next season. Not that it matters. He will want and get more than the Cubs will give.
  18. What extension did Alonso and Harper get?
  19. The path to proving a good team in 24 is narrowing IMO. I mean they can do it, but I am less enthusiastic about them really doing it when you hear them talk about the kids being close and not wanting to block them. I mean I can see the Glasnow trade and signing Hoskins. Which is ok. But then what? Even if they added Lowe to the TB trade that would be at the expense of Morel(I would think). So basically Hoskins and Lowe will have replaced Bellinger and Morel and Glasnow replaced Stroman.That is not enough. Unless they really can get Bichette/Bregman and maybe a young controlled pitcher I just don’t see this team any better than last year. And I don’t even see how they can get there. I honestly have no idea why Bichette or Bregman would be available too. I guess there can be something out of the blue. But I am not encouraged right now.
  20. I think if Ohtani was still an option the Cubs might be willing to make rhe deal with TB a little bigger and add Morel. Maybe without Ohtani it is just Glasnow but Morel not in the deal because he will DH Maybe with Ohtani Morel can be added and maybe the Cubs get Lowe back. One can hope, right???
  21. Ok, but that doesn’t mean they didn’t go 10 years. I would think every Ohtani offer from all teams has opt outs. So not sure why the Cubs offering opt outs is relevant to any discussion on their offer. I would think that was assumed.
  22. So? What does that mean. I bet every offer he is getting has opt outs for him after 3 or 4 years. That doesn’t mean they didn’t offer 10. People are speculating just to bitch about something. And, the truth is if they don’t get him but it comes out they did offer 10+ years everyone who bitched will never come back in and say they were wrong. Maybe he just doesn’t want to play in Chicago? Doesn’t mean the GO didn’t make a serious attempt at him.
  23. I’m actually ok with Hoskins being the biggest FA signing IF they also make some trades. If they get Glasnow too and maybe with him they get Lowe. Or maybe if the Jays get Ohtani they do trade Bichette. Or the Astros trade Bregman. I agree that Hoskins can’t be the only add iffensjvely, but they can add via trade. Maybe they also deal for a young controlled pitcher. Maybe trade for another bat. Polanco? They can still have a solid off season with Hoskins being the big FA signing. But they have to then make deals to add.
  24. I think it would be more like Horton than Brown. And I am fine with the Cubs not doing that.
  25. I’d they didn’t there will be plenty of time to criticize them. And I will be doing so as well. But right now people are criticizing them as if they know they didn’t go all in. And that is just not been proven yet.
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