11/12 College Football

[Derwood]

Well, we're getting down to the nitty gritty (did I just say that?)

 

EDIT: Rankings changed from AP to BCS

 

 

BIG GAMES

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(7) LSU @ (3) Alabama

(20 Auburn @ (9) Georgia

Northwestern @ ( 8 ) Ohio State

Boise St. @ (22) Fresno St.

 

 

OTHER GOOD TOP 25 GAMES

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(1) USC @ California

Kansas @ (2) Texas

(13) Florida @ S. Carolina

Iowa @ (16) Wisconsin

( 18 ) Colorado @ Iowa St.

Rutgers @ (25) Louisville

(23) Georgia Tech @ Virginia

 

 

TOP 25 MISMATCHES

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(4) Miami @ Wake Forest

Navy @ (11) Notre Dame

(10) Oregon @ Washington St.

(12) Texas Tech @ Oklahoma St.

Arizona St. @ (15) UCLA

(19) Florida St. @ Clemson

UNLV @ (17) TCU

Indiana @ (21) Michigan

 

 

OTHER IMPORTANT CONFERENCE GAMES

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NC State @ Boston College

Maryland @ North Carolina

Baylor @ Missouri

Texas A&M @ Oklahoma

Kansas St. @ Nebraska

Michigan St. @ Minnesota (24)

Stanford @ Oregon St.

 

 

I'll edit the Rankings when the BCS comes out later today.

Edited November 7, 2005 by Derwood

[cubweiser03]

NU Vs OSU. Northwesterns offense might do well against the bucks. OSU had trouble with Michigan State's spread offense, they didnt stop the run well and drew stanton had open guys throughout the game. OSU might be looking ahead to the Michigan game as well.

[AI]

Spurrier's Gamecocks vs. the Florida Gators. 'nuff said.

[Derwood]

If Northwestern could pull off the upset of OSU, Penn State would clinch the Fiesta Bowl without even playing

[CuseCubFan69]

I think that West Virginia and Louisville have received little respect and I'm looking forward to seeing them prove how good they are in the bowls.

[Andy]

Ball State goes for 3 in a row at Eastern Michigan. :wink: BSU's conference schedule somehow managed to avoid Kent State and Buffalo, the two worst teams in the MAC.

 

ND/Navy, as usual, is not worrisome. If ND wins by less than 24 I'll be disappointed.

[CuseCubFan69]

ND/Navy, as usual, is not worrisome. If ND wins by less than 24 I'll be disappointed.

 

This kind of thinking is quite dangerous my friend. I hope the ND players are not thinking the same thing for your sake.

[delroy lindo]

You should probably switch

 

Arizona St. @ (14) UCLA

 

with

 

Kansas @ (2) Texas

[Transmogrified Tiger]

Senior Day at Faurot Field, Mizzou needs one more win to be bowl eligible, and in all likelihood clinch 2nd place in the B12 North. Hopefully Baylor continues to slide, and Brad Smith can go out with a bang.

[adamb0719]

I don't think that NC State/BC is important at all. FSU already wrapped up their part of the ACC, and if Miami wins out they have their part wrapped up.

 

Ndistops, just wanted to remind you that 3 years ago ND was down by 8 to Navy with only 8 minutes left in the game, and in 01 it took a blocked FG to win the game. Also wanted to point out Navy has a 5'8" QB. No real significance to that, just thought it was interesting.

 

CuseCub: Does Lousville have a reason to be respected?

[Derwood]

I don't think that NC State/BC is important at all. FSU already wrapped up their part of the ACC, and if Miami wins out they have their part wrapped up.

 

Not important to the ACC title, but both teams are fighting for bowl eligibility

[snoodmonger]

You should probably switch

 

Arizona St. @ (14) UCLA

 

with

 

Kansas @ (2) Texas

 

KU should have beaten them last year. We got jobbed by the officials. We also have the 5th best defense in the country, and they have the potential to keep us in games.

 

That said, the opening line was 35 points. I expect KU to keep it closer than that.

[CuseCubFan69]

CuseCub: Does Lousville have a reason to be respected?

 

They ripped apart NC and Oregon St and I fail to see why ND is 17 spots better. They lost to S Florida at Florida a team that gave Penn St all they could handle in Penn State and blew a big lead against WV to lose. I'll take Louisville over ND at a neutral site.

[adamb0719]

I don't think that NC State/BC is important at all. FSU already wrapped up their part of the ACC, and if Miami wins out they have their part wrapped up.

 

Not important to the ACC title, but both teams are fighting for bowl eligibility

 

Fair enough.

[adamb0719]

CuseCub: Does Lousville have a reason to be respected?

 

They ripped apart NC and Oregon St and I fail to see why ND is 17 spots better. They lost to S Florida at Florida a team that gave Penn St all they could handle in Penn State and blew a big lead against WV to lose. I'll take Louisville over ND at a neutral site.

 

OSU is a four loss team. That UNC win was impressive, but not impressive enough to warrant them being a good team. Besides those teams they beat Cinncy, Pitt, FAU, Kentucky. With their schedule there is no reason for them to be a two loss team. WVU is the only loss that I think can be justified, but if you look at WVU's schedule it is a joke. Syracuse, Woodford, Maryland, UCONN, E Carolina, Rutgers. They got killed by VT, the only good team they have played. They are fifth in what is arguably the worst BCS conference. I just have a hard time believing they deserve more respect than they have.

 

Why bring ND into this. They are not the only two loss team in the top 10. I personally think Louisville would lose to any team ranked ahead of them except maybe TCU.

[delroy lindo]

You should probably switch

 

Arizona St. @ (14) UCLA

 

with

 

Kansas @ (2) Texas

 

KU should have beaten them last year. We got jobbed by the officials. We also have the 5th best defense in the country, and they have the potential to keep us in games.

 

That said, the opening line was 35 points. I expect KU to keep it closer than that.

 

Yeah, I think there was bad PI called or one that should've been called. That 4th and 18 conversion by Vince Young was silly, though. He's unbelievable. I think Texas wins in a rout, but I'm a big Mangino fan. Wish he was still at OU.

[CuseCubFan69]

CuseCub: Does Lousville have a reason to be respected?

 

They ripped apart NC and Oregon St and I fail to see why ND is 17 spots better. They lost to S Florida at Florida a team that gave Penn St all they could handle in Penn State and blew a big lead against WV to lose. I'll take Louisville over ND at a neutral site.

 

OSU is a four loss team. That UNC win was impressive, but not impressive enough to warrant them being a good team. Besides those teams they beat Cinncy, Pitt, FAU, Kentucky. With their schedule there is no reason for them to be a two loss team. WVU is the only loss that I think can be justified, but if you look at WVU's schedule it is a joke. Syracuse, Woodford, Maryland, UCONN, E Carolina, Rutgers. They got killed by VT, the only good team they have played. They are fifth in what is arguably the worst BCS conference. I just have a hard time believing they deserve more respect than they have.

 

Why bring ND into this. They are not the only two loss team in the top 10. I personally think Louisville would lose to any team ranked ahead of them except maybe TCU.

 

I brought ND into it as they are the highest ranked 2 loss team. Also, who has Alabama beat? Auburn? LSU? Other than the ever so tough teams in their own conference. At least Louisville and WV have played tough teams out of conference unlike the SEC teams that get so much repect and yet don't do well in the bowls year after year and Maryland, NC and VTech are tougher than any team an SEC has played out of conference to date. Auburn lost to GTech in the one matchup with a major conference. Tennesse always plays a tough out of conference and that is the team I respect out of that conference. I usually say that about the Big 12 but they did a decent job this year at least playing one good team.

 

By the way, ND has promised to play 3 Big East teams a year from here on so we'll see how well they do! :D

[snoodmonger]

You should probably switch

 

Arizona St. @ (14) UCLA

 

with

 

Kansas @ (2) Texas

 

KU should have beaten them last year. We got jobbed by the officials. We also have the 5th best defense in the country, and they have the potential to keep us in games.

 

That said, the opening line was 35 points. I expect KU to keep it closer than that.

 

Yeah, I think there was bad PI called or one that should've been called. That 4th and 18 conversion by Vince Young was silly, though. He's unbelievable. I think Texas wins in a rout, but I'm a big Mangino fan. Wish he was still at OU.

 

 

37-10 Texas is my guess. Hopefully they'll look past us to A&M, and we can make a game of it.

[adamb0719]

CuseCub: Does Lousville have a reason to be respected?

 

They ripped apart NC and Oregon St and I fail to see why ND is 17 spots better. They lost to S Florida at Florida a team that gave Penn St all they could handle in Penn State and blew a big lead against WV to lose. I'll take Louisville over ND at a neutral site.

 

OSU is a four loss team. That UNC win was impressive, but not impressive enough to warrant them being a good team. Besides those teams they beat Cinncy, Pitt, FAU, Kentucky. With their schedule there is no reason for them to be a two loss team. WVU is the only loss that I think can be justified, but if you look at WVU's schedule it is a joke. Syracuse, Woodford, Maryland, UCONN, E Carolina, Rutgers. They got killed by VT, the only good team they have played. They are fifth in what is arguably the worst BCS conference. I just have a hard time believing they deserve more respect than they have.

 

Why bring ND into this. They are not the only two loss team in the top 10. I personally think Louisville would lose to any team ranked ahead of them except maybe TCU.

 

I brought ND into it as they are the highest ranked 2 loss team. Also, who has Alabama beat? Auburn? LSU? Other than the ever so tough teams in their own conference. At least Louisville and WV have played tough teams out of conference unlike the SEC teams that get so much repect and yet don't do well in the bowls year after year and Maryland, NC and VTech are tougher than any team an SEC has played out of conference to date. Auburn lost to GTech in the one matchup with a major conference. Tennesse always plays a tough out of conference and that is the team I respect out of that conference. I usually say that about the Big 12 but they did a decent job this year at least playing one good team.

 

By the way, ND has promised to play 3 Big East teams a year from here on so we'll see how well they do! :D

 

I agree the the SEC has weak non-conference games, but I kind of am OK with it since the conference is so hard to get through. It is not the deepest conference but the top teams are very good. By the end of the year they normally have just beat each other up and if a team does emerge undefeated or with one loss, they deserve a BCS game

Also Auburn beat VT in a bowl last year, and LSU won the championship two years ago. The SEC does not do terrible when it makes it to a major bowl.

 

The non-conference games the Big East schedules are tougher than their conference games IMO. If they did not do that I don't see the Big East getting any respect at all. Of course basketball is another story :D

 

 

Do you know who ND is picking up to replace BC? I remember hearing Rutgers, but am not positive on that.

[CuseCubFan69]

By the way, ND has promised to play 3 Big East teams a year from here on so we'll see how well they do! :D

 

I agree the the SEC has weak non-conference games, but I kind of am OK with it since the conference is so hard to get through. It is not the deepest conference but the top teams are very good. By the end of the year they normally have just beat each other up and if a team does emerge undefeated or with one loss, they deserve a BCS game

Also Auburn beat VT in a bowl last year, and LSU won the championship two years ago. The SEC does not do terrible when it makes it to a major bowl.

 

The non-conference games the Big East schedules are tougher than their conference games IMO. If they did not do that I don't see the Big East getting any respect at all. Of course basketball is another story :D

 

 

Do you know who ND is picking up to replace BC? I remember hearing Rutgers, but am not positive on that.

 

I heard that Rutgers is on the list and I also heard that WV may be.

 

I think the SEC is a tough conference but when they all play cruddy teams and go 3-0 and then play each other how are we to know how good they really are?

[Andy]

CuseCub: Does Lousville have a reason to be respected?

 

They ripped apart NC and Oregon St and I fail to see why ND is 17 spots better. They lost to S Florida at Florida a team that gave Penn St all they could handle in Penn State and blew a big lead against WV to lose. I'll take Louisville over ND at a neutral site.

 

OSU is a four loss team. That UNC win was impressive, but not impressive enough to warrant them being a good team. Besides those teams they beat Cinncy, Pitt, FAU, Kentucky. With their schedule there is no reason for them to be a two loss team. WVU is the only loss that I think can be justified, but if you look at WVU's schedule it is a joke. Syracuse, Woodford, Maryland, UCONN, E Carolina, Rutgers. They got killed by VT, the only good team they have played. They are fifth in what is arguably the worst BCS conference. I just have a hard time believing they deserve more respect than they have.

 

Why bring ND into this. They are not the only two loss team in the top 10. I personally think Louisville would lose to any team ranked ahead of them except maybe TCU.

 

I brought ND into it as they are the highest ranked 2 loss team. Also, who has Alabama beat? Auburn? LSU? Other than the ever so tough teams in their own conference. At least Louisville and WV have played tough teams out of conference unlike the SEC teams that get so much repect and yet don't do well in the bowls year after year and Maryland, NC and VTech are tougher than any team an SEC has played out of conference to date. Auburn lost to GTech in the one matchup with a major conference. Tennesse always plays a tough out of conference and that is the team I respect out of that conference. I usually say that about the Big 12 but they did a decent job this year at least playing one good team.

 

By the way, ND has promised to play 3 Big East teams a year from here on so we'll see how well they do! :D

 

I agree the the SEC has weak non-conference games, but I kind of am OK with it since the conference is so hard to get through. It is not the deepest conference but the top teams are very good. By the end of the year they normally have just beat each other up and if a team does emerge undefeated or with one loss, they deserve a BCS game

Also Auburn beat VT in a bowl last year, and LSU won the championship two years ago. The SEC does not do terrible when it makes it to a major bowl.

 

The non-conference games the Big East schedules are tougher than their conference games IMO. If they did not do that I don't see the Big East getting any respect at all. Of course basketball is another story :D

 

 

Do you know who ND is picking up to replace BC? I remember hearing Rutgers, but am not positive on that.

Adam I do remember hearing it was Rutgers. I think the three Big East teams will often be Rutgers, Louisville and WV. At least those are the three I would schedule.

 

As for my comment about Navy, the reason I'd be disappointed at a non-rout over the Middies is because I do not think Weis will let the Irish forget about Navy. The times Navy has posed a threat to NDin recent years:

 

1997 - Rossum pushes the Navy receiver out at the one on the last second play to preserve the win.

 

1999 - The fortunate spot on 4th down. If the refs don't mess that up the streak ends.

 

2002 - Comeback win. Irish were on a hangover after losing to BC.

 

2003 - DJ Fitzpatrick FG. ND was just plain bad.

 

I bring those up because they were all Davie and Willingham. Navy never seems to pose a threat to us when there's a competent coach at the helm, and I don't think they'll have any problems. It's not like they have a good opponent next week to look ahead to.

[adamb0719]

By the way, ND has promised to play 3 Big East teams a year from here on so we'll see how well they do! :D

 

I agree the the SEC has weak non-conference games, but I kind of am OK with it since the conference is so hard to get through. It is not the deepest conference but the top teams are very good. By the end of the year they normally have just beat each other up and if a team does emerge undefeated or with one loss, they deserve a BCS game

Also Auburn beat VT in a bowl last year, and LSU won the championship two years ago. The SEC does not do terrible when it makes it to a major bowl.

 

The non-conference games the Big East schedules are tougher than their conference games IMO. If they did not do that I don't see the Big East getting any respect at all. Of course basketball is another story :D

 

 

Do you know who ND is picking up to replace BC? I remember hearing Rutgers, but am not positive on that.

 

I heard that Rutgers is on the list and I also heard that WV may be.

 

I think the SEC is a tough conference but when they all play cruddy teams and go 3-0 and then play each other how are we to know how good they really are?

 

That is a very good question. I think Texas is the same way this year. They are a good team, but they only decent team they played is OSU, and they barely won. TT is just too overrated IMO.

 

Also the new BCS is out

 

1 USC

2 Texas

3 Alabama

4 Miami

5 Penn State

6 Virginia Tech

7 LSU

8 Ohio State

9 Georgia

10 Oregon

11 Notre Dame

12 Texas Tech

13 Florida

14 West Virginia

15 UCLA

16 Wisconsin

17 TCU

18 Colorado

19 Florida State

20 Auburn

21 Michigan

22 Fresno State

23 Georgia Tech

24 Minnesota

25 Louisville

[CuseCubFan69]

Somebody tell me why Texas Tech is ranked so high?

 

Florida International

Sam Houston St

Indiana St.

 

Talk about a team that gets rewarded for a crappy schedule.

[adamb0719]

Somebody tell me why Texas Tech is ranked so high?

 

Florida International

Sam Houston St

Indiana St.

 

Talk about a team that gets rewarded for a crappy schedule.

 

And the only real team they played KILLED them

[Derwood]

Somebody tell me why Texas Tech is ranked so high?

 

Florida International

Sam Houston St

Indiana St.

 

Talk about a team that gets rewarded for a crappy schedule.

 

no kidding!

 

Wow, Miami is .0009 behind Alabama right now

Edited November 7, 2005 by Derwood